Trojan detected

[matke587]

As the headline says today my anti-virus flagged Steam as having a trojan. Now not sure if it was a false positive, but removed it all the same. I don't know what got deleted but I had to reinstall Steam when I found out it wouldn't open up even in admin mode.

Valve ( or whoever is responsible) might want to run a check on the latest steam patch, just to make sure nothing was uploaded with it.

Edit. The trojan was in the Steam folder, it was not there before steam update.

[D. Flame]

That's what malware creators want you to believe. Y'all living in da past.

Yes, there was a time when Windows Defender was the best anti-virus around. Then the companies trying to sell you anti-virus software threatened to sue Microsoft to get them to stop. They were claiming that microsoft was stealing their definition, so M$ went back to being a crappy bare minimum option.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

That's what malware creators want you to believe. Y'all living in da past.

Yes, there was a time when Windows Defender was the best anti-virus around. Then the companies trying to sell you anti-virus software threatened to sue Microsoft to get them to stop. They were claiming that microsoft was stealing their definition, so M$ went back to being a crappy bare minimum option.

If your antivirus only depends on its own definitions, most new entries in their database would depend on their customers getting infected first.

Antivirus companies that sell you an antivirus, sell you a package of functions. Since just the "pay or pray" sellers point does not work anymore.

[D. Flame]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muppet among Puppets:

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

That's what malware creators want you to believe. Y'all living in da past.

Yes, there was a time when Windows Defender was the best anti-virus around. Then the companies trying to sell you anti-virus software threatened to sue Microsoft to get them to stop. They were claiming that microsoft was stealing their definition, so M$ went back to being a crappy bare minimum option.

If your antivirus only depends on its own definitions, most new entries in their database would depend on their customers getting infected first.

Antivirus companies that sell you an antivirus, sell you a package of functions. Since just the "pay or pray" sellers point does not work anymore.

Most of them give you the antivirus for free to get you on their ecosystem, then they try to sell you other products through that antivirus interface. Even a lot of paid ones try to do that too.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Muppet among Puppets:

If your antivirus only depends on its own definitions, most new entries in their database would depend on their customers getting infected first.

Antivirus companies that sell you an antivirus, sell you a package of functions. Since just the "pay or pray" sellers point does not work anymore.

Most of them give you the antivirus for free to get you on their ecosystem, then they try to sell you other products through that antivirus interface. Even a lot of paid ones try to do that too.

Yes, and you should uninstall an antivirus that sues someone else for "using their" definitions.
As that implies that this antivirus is about making money, not mainly about security.

Btw, "their definitions"...... microsoft can collect ALL samples for windows. While an antivirus could only collect samples from their customers. So it does not make sense what you wrote about antivirus companies having tried to sue.

[D. Flame]

Even Kapersky sued microsoft for turning on Defender if you had no other Antivirus installed.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

Even Kapersky sued microsoft for turning on Defender if you had no other Antivirus installed.

Sued maybe, but were not right.

[Lily McFluffy Butt]

Man if Steam pushed an infected update, these forums would be exploding with threads about it, people grabbing their lawyers for lawsuits and everything. None of that is happening though.

[happy]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Lily McFluffy Butt:

Man if Steam pushed an infected update, these forums would be exploding with threads about it, people grabbing their lawyers for lawsuits and everything. None of that is happening though.

Also completely ignoring the Fact that someone capable enough to infect Steam's Updater on a global Scale would very likely not have an Issue making his Virus invisible to any commercially available Antivirus.

[ndemeeus]

Come on. Whenever we're online, we know privacy is something of the past on www. A friend of mine just this week found a major security brach in Windows 10. This has been fixed this week but for years the possibility to get a c prompt on anyone session was there. It did not surprise me. the dinner is wide open for those who want to hack. It is even worst on Solidity Start contracts... Access command and ownership xfer is easily done. Anti-Virus? Please...

[Corona Varus]

The Trojan-like spyware could be like a super intense Valve Anti-Cheat system. Any anti-cheat system that scans or reads your computer files might have been detected as malware, even if it's just a strong anti-cheat.

I forgot to put that it's not spyware, it's just Valve's anti-cheat trying to find any suspicious activity that leads people to cheat in games since it's a common problem in every video game for people to cheat. Software that scans your PC is sometimes marked as malware by some anti-virus programs

[CJM]

Opprinnelig skrevet av D. Flame:

That's what malware creators want you to believe. Y'all living in da past.

Yes, there was a time when Windows Defender was the best anti-virus around. Then the companies trying to sell you anti-virus software threatened to sue Microsoft to get them to stop. They were claiming that microsoft was stealing their definition, so M$ went back to being a crappy bare minimum option.

There was a time when "Windows Defender" was not even considered an Anti-Virus, and thus not even "bare minimum". Back in the 00's it was mostly just a waste of CPU cycles.

Giant AntiSpyware was a competitor in the same ring as Lavasoft's Ad-Aware and Malwarebytes. They didn't remove viruses, just nuisances. Admittedly, consumers didn't know or care about the difference. That didn't change when Microsoft bought Giant Antispyware in 2004.

The "Anti-Spyware" still had to be paired with a proper anti-virus, such as Symantec, Norton, McAfee, Eset, Kaspersky, Trend Micro, Panda, AVG, Avast.

It was more that when Windows 10 was released in 2015, Windows Defender's Antivirus was suddenly good enough that purchasing another antivirus was simply a waste of money, unless you were a business with more than 5 Windows PCs. Though, you'd probably be cut plenty of slack until you reached the 25 "small office" threshold, never tested that theory, though.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Crashed:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Corona Varus:

The Trojan-like spyware could be like a super intense Valve Anti-Cheat system. Any anti-cheat system that scans or reads your computer files might have been detected as malware, even if it's just a strong anti-cheat.

Let's not spread conspiracy theories.

One of the primary reasons to use Steam is that you are avoiding that type of Anti-Cheat (Denuvo Anti-Cheat, *cough* *cough*) by focusing on Valve's VAC.

And when you have an example such as SonyBGM XCP, who needs conspiracy theories? We're at "rightfully paranoid".

SafeDisc, SecuROM, SonyBGM XCP, Starforce. DRM is, if nothing else, "Planned Obsolescence".

Opprinnelig skrevet av "Microsoft Security Bulletin MS15-097 - KB3086255":

this security bulletin addresses a defense-in-depth update for the secdrv.sys driver, a third-party driver. The update turns off the service for the secdrv.sys driver. This may affect the ability to run some older games.

After you install this security update, some programs may not run. (For example, some video games may not run.)

Warning This [secdrv.sys] may make a computer or a network more vulnerable to attack by malicious users or by malicious software such as viruses.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Opprinnelig skrevet av CJM:

It was more that when Windows 10 was released in 2015, Windows Defender's Antivirus was suddenly good enough

That happened around 2018. As if they pushed a button.

[Kreezio]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tex:

You really think a multi billion dollar company is going to upload a trojan?

It's called a false positive. Something that virus programs pick up all the time for whatever reason. I don't even use an anti-virus because of how intrusive they are and I never have issues. Being internet smart is the best protection.

lol in the past they did allow a game that had trojan in the store and some worshop maps had trojan