Buying and selling accounts

[CyberDragon]

Not being able to sell accounts makes no sense. It's like if Honda told you can't sell the car you own. It's our account and the games we bought and sometimes people work incredibly hard on those games and they will eventually stop gaming. Why must all their hard work go to waste? who's in charge Forest Gump? Fire him and get someone who ain't retarded. I'm tired of gamers being ♥♥♥♥♥♥ over by Steam. Let's put an end to it.

[J4MESOX4D]

Over 100,000 accounts are stolen each week so imagine the market if people could sell these. It would be utterly catastrophic for the platform, the victim and the dimwit who buys such accounts.

You have a free account, you consume purchased licences and you get your money's worth. Not everything can be sold in life or recouped for money.

Every online account has the same terms and not just for gaming either. If you're that hard up for money then stop gaming now and don't spend another penny on it.

[Thordred]

Ursprungligen skrivet av CyberDragon:

Not being able to sell accounts makes no sense.

You're right, it doesn't. Accounts are bought and sold all the time, why are you not able to? What's wrong with you? Selling accounts is not allowed and I wouldn't recommend it but it's not rocket science.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Thordred:

Ursprungligen skrivet av CyberDragon:

Not being able to sell accounts makes no sense.

You're right, it doesn't. Accounts are bought and sold all the time, why are you not able to? What's wrong with you? Selling accounts is not allowed and I wouldn't recommend it but it's not rocket science.

Accounts are bought and sold, its a waste of money if you ask me, if you buy one eventually it will get banned and if one sells accounts there is a risk, that the people responsible will get sued, since end of the day, the bottom line in unprohibited Steam account sales, is that, person is selling Valves property, without owning the licence to do so, is basically no different than pirating a movie and selling it forward.

[Thordred]

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Thordred:

You're right, it doesn't. Accounts are bought and sold all the time, why are you not able to? What's wrong with you? Selling accounts is not allowed and I wouldn't recommend it but it's not rocket science.

Accounts are bought and sold, its a waste of money if you ask me, if you buy one eventually it will get banned and if you sell illegal accounts there is a risk that you will get sued.

It's pointless to buy Steam accounts. You can create your own account for free. All the stuff on your account, interactions with other users, games, playtimes, achievements, content you've created, etc. is like a part of your personal gaming history. Buying someone else's account is like standing in a shop that gives away blank sheets of paper for free but paying money for a piece of paper that already has parts of someone else's resume written all over it instead.

[Thordred]

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the bottom line in unprohibited Steam account sales, is that, person is selling Valves property, without owning the licence to do so, is basically no different than pirating a movie and selling it forward.

I don't know, maybe. Legality probably depends on the country you're in. For me the bottom line is: There's no point to this thread. The OP could easily try to sell his account (legally or illegaly... I don't think that's the issue here) if he really wanted to instead of complaining about Steams subscriber agreement here on the forums.

[ุ]

As I stated on the other thread, OP is getting in a tizzy not realizing that accounts with 25 or so games, like his, are pretty common on the market. Legit like an under $20 value most likely unless he has some rare games.

[Walach]

I believe the topic about "digital ownership" will be a major issue in something like 30-40 years. When people who probably has at least one account for something online dies and problems arise when their next of kin gets told that "they can't get the person's account, even if stated in a will because X, Y and Z stated in some agreement made for said license."

It won't be pretty, I believe, but I can't see anything happen at the government level before accounts become as normal to everyone as any physical objects. Can't tell what'll happen, or if it'll happen at all in any other words than me just "feeling that this will happen."

Also, this is a "somewhat funny" detail but it's only against the agreement to sell the account, and not to buy the account because when you buy the account you haven't agreed to the agreement in the first place. :P

[Chika Ogiue]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Walach:

I believe the topic about "digital ownership" will be a major issue in something like 30-40 years. When people who probably has at least one account for something online dies and problems arise when their next of kin gets told that "they can't get the person's account, even if stated in a will because X, Y and Z stated in some agreement made for said license."

You realise that, for example, people with Steam accounts have already died, right? Now here's where your prediction falls flat. Valve are not entirely monsters. Case in point, when my father died, Steam support helped us recover his account. Even Google will work with you to recover an account from a deceased relative.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av Chika Ogiue:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Walach:

I believe the topic about "digital ownership" will be a major issue in something like 30-40 years. When people who probably has at least one account for something online dies and problems arise when their next of kin gets told that "they can't get the person's account, even if stated in a will because X, Y and Z stated in some agreement made for said license."

You realise that, for example, people with Steam accounts have already died, right? Now here's where your prediction falls flat. Valve are not entirely monsters. Case in point, when my father died, Steam support helped us recover his account. Even Google will work with you to recover an account from a deceased relative.

I have no doubt that Valve would have zero issue with someone inheriting an account properly, the optics of denying that is just way too harmful PR-wise.

[Walach]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Chika Ogiue:

You realise that, for example, people with Steam accounts have already died, right? Now here's where your prediction falls flat. Valve are not entirely monsters. Case in point, when my father died, Steam support helped us recover his account. Even Google will work with you to recover an account from a deceased relative.

Yes, I know that. I knew that before I wrote what I wrote and sadly, I believe what I wrote with that knowledge. :(