Fair enough. They disable Steam on Windows 7? I'm emptying my wishlist and limiting purchases.

[Stiletto]

It's so funny because so many of the "shut up and upgrade" bullies keep claiming that Steam's reason for doing this is that "you're not profitable". Folks, I've been on Steam since it launched. I've got several hundred games. I routinely buy at least a couple, if not several, every month. My wishlist is loaded. I've poured tons of money into Steam and were it not for this ridiculous new precedent of "disabling Steam for W7" instead of doing like everyone else and either providing a scaled-down version, or just letting people run the last supported version, I would continue to do so. But now? Now I'm emptying my wishlist. GOG or any upstart game platforms that don't lock my lawfully purchased games, many from decades before W10 even existed, behind a pointless W10 requirement, will be getting the money I was going to give to Valve. Any game I can buy and use without paying Steam, I will.

I figure I'll still need to use Steam to get State of Decay 3 because it's either that or the Microsoft Store. I might bend for Payday 3. But I'm now de-prioritizing Steam as having any access to my wallet. That's the trade-off you get for being the first major game platform to literally cripple your client. No, I'm not interested in the Valve acolytes lecturing me about how it's impossible for Steam to enable small mode or something comparable for W7 users so they can still access their games. And I'm even less interested in hearing the "muh security" meme for the 5000th time. You are literally pushing a marketing illusion, nothing more. Your personal and financial data has already been leaked by giant corporations(AND government agencies) multiple times and no operating system upgrade will affect that.

[Zefar]

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

well tons of people have issues with updates turning them back on, i guess you were one of the magically lucky few who didnt have that happening...

Yeah um I pretty much doubt that. Seeing that feature has stayed off for all of the years I've had Win10 installed.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

anywho, as for hating them, yes i do.... as for not knowing anything, try again, i have installed both (currently still installed) both on other laptops i happen to have laying around, i have also worked on and helped and/or fixed pc's with said os's.

Now while you make such claims it sounds ridiculous because of the next statement.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

as for advertising... both have tons and thats a fact, not sure where you got your info, both OS's were built around telemetry and advertising.

"respect users choice"

Never had any ads on Win10.
Not one. This goes for both Win10 and Win11.

[MonkehMaster]

Messaggio originale di Zefar:

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

well tons of people have issues with updates turning them back on, i guess you were one of the magically lucky few who didnt have that happening...

Yeah um I pretty much doubt that. Seeing that feature has stayed off for all of the years I've had Win10 installed.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

anywho, as for hating them, yes i do.... as for not knowing anything, try again, i have installed both (currently still installed) both on other laptops i happen to have laying around, i have also worked on and helped and/or fixed pc's with said os's.

Now while you make such claims it sounds ridiculous because of the next statement.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

as for advertising... both have tons and thats a fact, not sure where you got your info, both OS's were built around telemetry and advertising.

"respect users choice"

Never had any ads on Win10.
Not one. This goes for both Win10 and Win11.

yep, "didnt happen to me, so it never happened".

[bidulless]

Hello

Hehe funny and long list of kb ,)
Here is a list of updates offered by Microsoft related to telemetry and/or upgrading to Windows 10
https://us.informatiweb.net/tutorials/it/windows/windows-7-8-8-1-disable-windows-tracking-systems-telemetry--4.html

And some are also on w10 like KB3150513 ,)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/latest-compatibility-definition-update-for-windows-043f240c-e8c0-961f-cc5d-131e6240eb5a
This update will be offered only if the following prerequisite updates are installed:
....
No clue where you get your list from @kominaru ,)

KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3021917 KB3022345 KB3068708 KB3035583 KB2990214 KB2952664 KB3065987 KB3050265 KB971033 KB2902907 KB2976987 KB3102810 KB3112343 KB3135445 KB3123862 KB3081954 KB3139929 KB3138612 KB3138615 KB3150513 KB3133977 KB3139923 KB3173040

Verify before posting ...

[Zefar]

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

Messaggio originale di Zefar:

Yeah um I pretty much doubt that. Seeing that feature has stayed off for all of the years I've had Win10 installed.



Now while you make such claims it sounds ridiculous because of the next statement.




Never had any ads on Win10.
Not one. This goes for both Win10 and Win11.

yep, "didnt happen to me, so it never happened".

Uh huh. I went to Youtube to see if anyone was raging about this. Nope. Can't find any videos about Windows 10 turning that option back on.

So lets see if Google has anything. Still nothing.

You'll only get guides on how to turn it off.
I'm calling bs on your statement that it turns on automatically for a "ton of people".
I doubt it turns on at all but people forgot to turn it off in the first place.

[Komarimaru]

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello

Hehe funny and long list of kb ,)
Here is a list of updates offered by Microsoft related to telemetry and/or upgrading to Windows 10
https://us.informatiweb.net/tutorials/it/windows/windows-7-8-8-1-disable-windows-tracking-systems-telemetry--4.html

And some are also on w10 like KB3150513 ,)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/latest-compatibility-definition-update-for-windows-043f240c-e8c0-961f-cc5d-131e6240eb5a
This update will be offered only if the following prerequisite updates are installed:
....
No clue where you get your list from @kominaru ,)

KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3021917 KB3022345 KB3068708 KB3035583 KB2990214 KB2952664 KB3065987 KB3050265 KB971033 KB2902907 KB2976987 KB3102810 KB3112343 KB3135445 KB3123862 KB3081954 KB3139929 KB3138612 KB3138615 KB3150513 KB3133977 KB3139923 KB3173040

Verify before posting ...

Maybe you should read the things before trying to call me out, did you not see my list matches theirs, even if in a different order?

Why do you constantly have to try and make yourself look bad in failed attempts to try and undermine someone?

[bidulless]

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello

Hehe funny and long list of kb ,)
Here is a list of updates offered by Microsoft related to telemetry and/or upgrading to Windows 10
https://us.informatiweb.net/tutorials/it/windows/windows-7-8-8-1-disable-windows-tracking-systems-telemetry--4.html

And some are also on w10 like KB3150513 ,)
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/latest-compatibility-definition-update-for-windows-043f240c-e8c0-961f-cc5d-131e6240eb5a
This update will be offered only if the following prerequisite updates are installed:
....
No clue where you get your list from @kominaru ,)

KB3075249 KB3080149 KB3021917 KB3022345 KB3068708 KB3035583 KB2990214 KB2952664 KB3065987 KB3050265 KB971033 KB2902907 KB2976987 KB3102810 KB3112343 KB3135445 KB3123862 KB3081954 KB3139929 KB3138612 KB3138615 KB3150513 KB3133977 KB3139923 KB3173040

Verify before posting ...

Maybe you should read the things before trying to call me out, did you not see my list matches theirs, even if in a different order?

Why do you constantly have to try and make yourself look bad in failed attempts to try and undermine someone?

Hello

Not different order ....
And no
KB3133977 --
KB3139923
KB3138615
KB3139929
KB3135445
No need to verify all...
Where did you get your list, source please ?

[Komarimaru]

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

Maybe you should read the things before trying to call me out, did you not see my list matches theirs, even if in a different order?

Why do you constantly have to try and make yourself look bad in failed attempts to try and undermine someone?

Hello

Not different order ....
And no
KB3133977 --
KB3139923
KB3138615
KB3139929
KB3135445
No need to verify all...
Where did you get your list, source please ?

From my own file from 3 years ago, what's your point? Their comment was Windows 10 ads, and I was showing it's simpler to disable it in Windows 10, than it takes in Windows 7.

Why are you trolling again? Oh, I'm sorry, when copy pasted the list, I missed few. Again, what's your point, since not even related to the current discussion at hand?

[MonkehMaster]

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello

Not different order ....
And no
KB3133977 --
KB3139923
KB3138615
KB3139929
KB3135445
No need to verify all...
Where did you get your list, source please ?

From my own file from 3 years ago, what's your point? Their comment was Windows 10 ads, and I was showing it's simpler to disable it in Windows 10, than it takes in Windows 7.

Why are you trolling again?

win 7 doesnt have ads...

[Komarimaru]

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

From my own file from 3 years ago, what's your point? Their comment was Windows 10 ads, and I was showing it's simpler to disable it in Windows 10, than it takes in Windows 7.

Why are you trolling again?

win 7 doesnt have ads...

It has telemetry, did you not bother to read the posts? Why are you trolling? You are complaining about the stuff in Windows 10, yet it takes seconds to remove. Where as in Windows 7, you have to go deep into some parts and also modify and remove updates to change it.

That simple.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

From my own file from 3 years ago, what's your point? Their comment was Windows 10 ads, and I was showing it's simpler to disable it in Windows 10, than it takes in Windows 7.

Why are you trolling again?

win 7 doesnt have ads...

It has telemetry that cannot be disabled without a custom ISO. Unlike 10.

[bidulless]

Messaggio originale di SlowMango:

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

win 7 doesnt have ads...

It has telemetry that cannot be disabled without a custom ISO. Unlike 10.

Hello
Which one please ?

[Komarimaru]

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Messaggio originale di SlowMango:

It has telemetry that cannot be disabled without a custom ISO. Unlike 10.

Hello
Which one please ?

Built into the kernel. Core Windows features that you cannot remove without a custom slipstream ISO. Same way you make custom variants of other operating systems, tearing out sections like the whole Tiny10/Tiny11 projects and other custom builds but breaking the OS for full functionality.

But here's the things, all the telemetry everyone is complaining about, is harmless and sends data like, 1-3 times a year if that. Doesn't collect anything personal etc etc.

[bidulless]

Messaggio originale di Komarimaru:

Messaggio originale di bidulless:

Hello
Which one please ?

Built into the kernel. Core Windows features that you cannot remove without a custom slipstream ISO. Same way you make custom variants of other operating systems, tearing out sections like the whole Tiny10/Tiny11 projects and other custom builds but breaking the OS for full functionality.

But here's the things, all the telemetry everyone is complaining about, is harmless and sends data like, 1-3 times a year if that. Doesn't collect anything personal etc etc.

Hello

By nature, every télémetry is harmless ...Most of them are used for company to improve their products or business in some way.
All that can lead to some shaddy practices, like we have seen recently with amazone, epic,google and some others ....
It's not a reason that we can easily disable most of them .
And about core kernel w7, i am ready to trust you but give us a source

[RedLightning]

Messaggio originale di Zefar:

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

well tons of people have issues with updates turning them back on, i guess you were one of the magically lucky few who didnt have that happening...

Yeah um I pretty much doubt that. Seeing that feature has stayed off for all of the years I've had Win10 installed.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

anywho, as for hating them, yes i do.... as for not knowing anything, try again, i have installed both (currently still installed) both on other laptops i happen to have laying around, i have also worked on and helped and/or fixed pc's with said os's.

Now while you make such claims it sounds ridiculous because of the next statement.

Messaggio originale di MonkehMaster:

as for advertising... both have tons and thats a fact, not sure where you got your info, both OS's were built around telemetry and advertising.

"respect users choice"

Never had any ads on Win10.
Not one. This goes for both Win10 and Win11.

First time I ever installed windows 10 I was getting ads on my lock screen ..

[Boblin the Goblin]

Messaggio originale di RedLightning:

Messaggio originale di Zefar:

Yeah um I pretty much doubt that. Seeing that feature has stayed off for all of the years I've had Win10 installed.



Now while you make such claims it sounds ridiculous because of the next statement.




Never had any ads on Win10.
Not one. This goes for both Win10 and Win11.

First time I ever installed windows 10 I was getting ads on my lock screen ..

Which are very easy to turn off and never see again.