Epic Games Store and GOG are the thing right now, huh?
See your there in the next year.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:
Well, let's be honest, all popular games don't require high end computers and most of them are Free to Play, that's why they're so popular. Most Steam users got their mom's laptops and trying to play some stuff.

I doubt that they (ordinary steam users) will want to upgrade to the new OS, like ever??
I would dare say that most games, period, let alone popular ones don't need the latest and greatest hardware. That's what graphical option settings are for.

But I have news for you, most ordinary steam users have already upgraded to the new OS. Over 70% of users world wide use Windows 10. Another 23% use Windows 11. That's 93% of Windows users in the world using the currently supported versions. Less than 4% are still using Windows 7. Those are world wide stats, so the overall number of people using Windows 7 and Steam are even less, comparatively speaking. So the vast majority of people have already upgraded. And these stats have pretty much held true for almost every version of windows after they were released (Vista and 8 being overshadowed by their much better, and quickly released successors). So it seems the vast majority of the world has no problems with upgrading to the latest version of Windows in a short amount of time after it is released.

Honest question here:
What does anyone posting in these forums to complain about the dropping of Windows 7 support hope to accomplish?

These are the exact same threads we saw when XP support was dropped, and when 98 support was dropped. People complained. People threatened lawsuits. And more people at those times were using those operating systems than are using Windows 7 now, during this time.

What exactly do you expect to happen?

Nothing changed back for those operating systems. Do you honestly expect this time to be any different?
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von KoKINGoK:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Satoru:
Gog galaxy is not supported on windows 7/8 and never has been

The Epic client has never, ever supported windows 7/8

Not true. Gog currently does not, but it did. Epic runs to this day on 7 and 8 but not Linux...please get your facts straight or try harder.

Epic runs on Linux using open source client Heroic. and it runs gog as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU2Ej3cD6Dg
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von KoKINGoK:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Satoru:
Gog galaxy is not supported on windows 7/8 and never has been

The Epic client has never, ever supported windows 7/8

Not true. Gog currently does not, but it did. Epic runs to this day on 7 and 8 but not Linux...please get your facts straight or try harder.
How do you think people have been playing GOG, EA and Epic games on their Steam Decks? Magic?

This is seriously starting to sound like people didn’t do their homework.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von KoKINGoK:

Not true. Gog currently does not, but it did. Epic runs to this day on 7 and 8 but not Linux...please get your facts straight or try harder.
How do you think people have been playing GOG, EA and Epic games on their Steam Decks? Magic?

This is seriously starting to sound like people didn’t do their homework.

Yeah, like a bee not doing their homework.

Ever heard about those 3rd-party clients that Linux users use? You don't get them on the Epic website, though, because Epic doesn't make or support them.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von _veleron:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:
Epic Games Store and GOG are the thing right now, huh?
See your there in the next year.
What? Why?
Your steam account has only 1 game purchased in 6 years...
Lol, I can hide my account and don't show off my oldest one with bunch of games in there, nice bait, ngl
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Satoru:
Gog galaxy is not supported on windows 7/8 and never has been
WTF are you talking about? I'm running Gog Galaxy on Windows 7.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kargor:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:
How do you think people have been playing GOG, EA and Epic games on their Steam Decks? Magic?

This is seriously starting to sound like people didn’t do their homework.

Yeah, like a bee not doing their homework.

Ever heard about those 3rd-party clients that Linux users use? You don't get them on the Epic website, though, because Epic doesn't make or support them.
Uhmmm...that's what I meant - Cat on Linux already pointed that out in the comment above mine. I use Heroic and Lutris on my Deck already and "no special Linux Client" is required.

Heck, you can just download the bog standard Epic client from their website and install it using Proton through the Steam client and run it that way. That's what people did for Origin for the first few weeks.

"Epic doesn't support Linux" is hardly an issue in 2023.

Edit: Notice the person I was replying to said "Epic doesn't run on Linux", not "there's no Linux Epic launcher".
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Satoru:
Gog galaxy is not supported on windows 7/8 and never has been
WTF are you talking about? I'm running Gog Galaxy on Windows 7.
It's not. Check the GOG website.

You're running Galaxy the same way you run the Steam Client right now. GOG Galaxy's depended on the same part of Chromium that the Steam Client is - they're just not warning you months before.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von _veleron:
What? Why?
Your steam account has only 1 game purchased in 6 years...
Lol, I can hide my account and don't show off my oldest one with bunch of games in there, nice bait, ngl
Oh-ho I get it, throwaway account....

Don't forget to build a better door behind an empty room with no physical games.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:

You're running Galaxy the same way you run the Steam Client right now. GOG Galaxy's depended on the same part of Chromium that the Steam Client is - they're just not warning you months before.

No, I'm not. I'm running Galaxy Client Version 1. Which GOG allows me to run, even though it isn't supported anymore. Unlike Steam that forces client updates on you, whether you want them or not.

Almost like Windows 10 forces updates on you, which changes the UI completely, whether you want them or not.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:

You're running Galaxy the same way you run the Steam Client right now. GOG Galaxy's depended on the same part of Chromium that the Steam Client is - they're just not warning you months before.

No, I'm not. I'm running Galaxy Client Version 1. Which GOG allows me to run, even though it isn't supported anymore. Unlike Steam that forces client updates on you, whether you want them or not.

Almost like Windows 10 forces updates on you, which changes the UI completely, whether you want them or not.
Neither Windows 10 nor 11 has ever forced an update on me. I update when I want to. If people opt-in to auto updates that's their issue.

I will note though, that I've never had an issue with either a 10 or 11 update.

Edit: Also, are you never going to update any of your software? The GOG Galaxy has had some pretty nice improvements since the original version.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:

No, I'm not. I'm running Galaxy Client Version 1. Which GOG allows me to run, even though it isn't supported anymore. Unlike Steam that forces client updates on you, whether you want them or not.

Almost like Windows 10 forces updates on you, which changes the UI completely, whether you want them or not.
Neither Windows 10 nor 11 has ever forced an update on me. I update when I want to. If people opt-in to auto updates that's their issue.

I will note though, that I've never had an issue with either a 10 or 11 update.

Edit: Also, are you never going to update any of your software? The GOG Galaxy has had some pretty nice improvements since the original version.

When I DID run Windows 10, I could delay updates to a point, then Win10 would say "you will update tonight, no more delay".

No, I'm not going to "update any of my software". I have switched most of my PC's to Linux, I have one Windows 7 PC left for VR as Steam can't be bothered to fix Linux VR. I have even switched my work computer to Linux when IT told me I couldn't run Windows 7 anymore.

As for the Galaxy client? I use it as a download manager. End of story. Windows 7 has a Start button and a menu that works, I don't need a game launcher.

Edit: And that is sort of my point. If I'm happy to run Windows 7, then I'm happy to run a 10 year old Steam client. I place stability above having the newest features. But Steam has no intention of allowing us to keep using the current client, they needlessly force client updates for features we don't need or want.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:
Neither Windows 10 nor 11 has ever forced an update on me. I update when I want to. If people opt-in to auto updates that's their issue.

I will note though, that I've never had an issue with either a 10 or 11 update.

Edit: Also, are you never going to update any of your software? The GOG Galaxy has had some pretty nice improvements since the original version.

When I DID run Windows 10, I could delay updates to a point, then Win10 would say "you will update tonight, no more delay".

No, I'm not going to "update any of my software". I have switched most of my PC's to Linux, I have one Windows 7 PC left for VR as Steam can't be bothered to fix Linux VR. I have even switched my work computer to Linux when IT told me I couldn't run Windows 7 anymore.

As for the Galaxy client? I use it as a download manager. End of story. Windows 7 has a Start button and a menu that works, I don't need a game launcher.
Then just use Linux for your Steam games as well. Problem solved. There are still months to go before the "shutdown". Proton compatibility will be even better by then.

(Note, most of my library is now covered by Proton. I only have 24 totally borked games left that need to be sorted.)

Seriously, I get why people who aren't using Linux are upset, but people who know the system and its quirks should switch completely rather than just sticking to Win7- Linux is better in this case.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von Bee🐝:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:

When I DID run Windows 10, I could delay updates to a point, then Win10 would say "you will update tonight, no more delay".

No, I'm not going to "update any of my software". I have switched most of my PC's to Linux, I have one Windows 7 PC left for VR as Steam can't be bothered to fix Linux VR. I have even switched my work computer to Linux when IT told me I couldn't run Windows 7 anymore.

As for the Galaxy client? I use it as a download manager. End of story. Windows 7 has a Start button and a menu that works, I don't need a game launcher.
Then just use Linux for your Steam games as well. Problem solved. There are still months to go before the "shutdown". Proton compatibility will be even better by then.

(Note, most of my library is now covered by Proton. I only have 24 totally borked games left that need to be sorted.)

Seriously, I get why people who aren't using Linux are upset, but people who know the system and its quirks should switch completely rather than just sticking to Win7- Linux is better in this case.

Like I said, VR is a mess under Linux. I contacted Steam support about SteamVR issues under Linux and they told me to ask the forum... Most other games runs fine under Linux. Even VR, WHEN it works it works great, but most of the time it is jerky and stuttering, while CPU usage is low...

Edit: And the Wigig Wireless Display silicon manufacturer never released drivers for Linux, so my Vive Wireless headset is locked to Windows.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von blunus:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:
Lol, I can hide my account and don't show off my oldest one with bunch of games in there, nice bait, ngl
Oh-ho I get it, throwaway account....

Don't forget to build a better door behind an empty room with no physical games.
So you can only try to justify this new garbage policy, but you can't deny or refute it
Ursprünglich geschrieben von Saturn in Capricorn:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von 💙🐉Siscest Wincest🍒💛:
My library is on my Desktop
You are really trying to reach for some kind of victory, at the end of the day though what separates us is £1.60, I paid and activated, you can;t even afford that apprently.
That's some sunk-cost fallacy copium right there, my guy. :LaughingOwlcat:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von TheRancid:
When I DID run Windows 10, I could delay updates to a point, then Win10 would say "you will update tonight, no more delay".
Fortunately, there's a simple solution to that: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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