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No, its 1.5% as of NOW, as of January 2024 when this takes place it will be well under 1%. It doesn't matter how many users that is, its still under 1%.
You don't stop developing your software and limit yourself because under 1% of your users are being effected. You have to build your business around the 99%+ of people that it serves. You don't punish 99% of your users to try to benefit 1%.
Actual studies and histories show that assumption is wrong. For instance in the last 2 months alone global windows 7 users have dropped by over 50%. Steam's own numbers are showing similar levels.
As of January there was 1.85% of users using Windows 7, as of April that's dropped by nearly 25% in just 3 months. The exact same pattern occurred with XP. It dropped significantly in its final few months before the cutoff. People wait till they are forced to upgrade before they upgrade.
Well, put aside the 1.5%, and just talk the 2.5 million gamers. If Xbox or Sony were to lose 2.5 million gamers, that would make news on the financials, not just the gaming sites, being they're public traded companies.
So, it's a lot people, and i'm glad it's fine with Mr Newell, but as the OP is stating, can maybe get messy if the move not punted to a later time.
It was only three years ago they ended XP, and just a few years later to wipe out a whole OS and millions of people, can be scrutinized.
That happens all the time, after sony changed their PS+ subscription they lost more subs then steam is going to lose, and they have less users then steam meaning the percentage is far higher.
Also when support for 7&8 end it will have been 5 years since XP support ended, not 3. Also again, no one cares if you want to scrutinize it.
1% is 1% is 1%. They've also gained far more then they have lost and they've repeatedly broken concurrent numbers of users over the year, so they are having no issues. There is no mess, only the same people who will be complaining no matter when the cutoff was.
You're talking about subs to a subscription service, not that 2.5 million gamers at Sony would lose the products they purchased, say if they did not move to PS5.
The games they own, are not going anywhere, as long as they have the console they purchased to play it.
We're talking a total shut out or more than two million, and 2019 was not long ago, for they to shut out a very conservative (too conservative) number, of 2.5 million more gamers.
Subs are even worse as those are customers paying monthly vs free customers who aren't buying many games as they are running old hardware that can't even play many games.
Not to mention that steam over the last several years has gained MILLIONS of users, FAR more then they lost.
Business 101 is you don't hurt 99%+ of your clients to benefit less then 1%.
Yep, and you know whats happened since 2019? Steam has hit and broken their records for numbers of users REPEATEDLY since they did so. So apparently cutting a very very small minority of your users to benefit the majority pays off and works well.
Those who bought games on steam still have their games, and many will update. Those who won't, are acceptable losses to benefit the overwhelming majority of customers as shown by the numerous other times this has happened
Majority of people are just dragging their feet on the task of upgrading their OS. And either will update because of support loss or because the next game they want requires it.
Only a very tiny fracion of that slice of the userbase will remain not-updated. And even then they're not lost customers as the account remains.
Well if this were Game Pass or PS PLus, you don't own the games. And the conversation a good one, and one that was had, if not that Steam should admit they're leasing these games, like they do, not selling them for folks to own.
But all based on a License Lease Agreement, that the purchases you make, can be taken away for "any" reason, be it OS, bans, or the developer bricking the game with no recourse, etc, or anything given the terms of the Lease.
In short "ownership" is an erronous word being used, at Steam in their shop, or in short as to what is really happening.
In fact, i would say Steam IS Game Pass, if not for the fact you don't pay a subscription fee, but for the games itself, and can be taken away, and rules changed at any time.
That's a Lease, not Ownership, like GP or PS Plus, and if that was made clear, my arguments a moot one..
Steam's not forcing you to do anything, their upgrading their own systems, they at least were kind enough to inform us of the changes to their side of the program.
This. And this is the reason why new laws are constantly being created to protect consumers. All these idiots saying "there is no law" are ignorant sheep, or very young.
Mine is still here only because I threw a tantrum and posted screenshots to Reddit. Ironically, my thread to complain about the deletion has garnered more attention than the original complaint. Streissand effect and all.
The licenses they own, are not going anywhere, as long as they meet the requirements to play them.
I get your point though and youre right. You would still have the old console, and if you've kept it and your games in good condition they'll work. But if you keep your PC up to date, your games will still work. But really that's always been the strength of consoles. They just work, out of the box, no worrying about hardware or software compatibility.
Yes. And in some cases you get a CD key you can use to unlock the same game on Steam. All this nonsense Steam is pulling are "artificial problems". If they wanted the code to work, it'd work. But since they make more money off you by selling you the solution to the problems they create, and that there'll always be sheep ready to defend them, that's exactly what they do.
You have ALWAYS been able to just install and run programs indefinitely, until they realized they can charge you for that "privilege" (which is a right protected by law in my country, despite what the uneducated may claim). All this "safety patches" nonsense is just a scam. You don't need patches every year, and even with the patches you're not really safe anyway. Ask any hacker who Windows Defender is actually defending.