Steam BS
This is BS that we won't be able to play games we ALREADY purchased because YOU want to FORCE us to spend MORE money on newer computers. The games I play ALREADY work on my system and now you want to DENY me access to the games I already PURCHASED?!?!
โพสต์ต้นฉบับโดย N3tRunn3r:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย vgifford:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:

On a upgrade, all data stays :)

Good luck, ford.
You are more of Customer Service than STEAM customer service. At least you guided me step by step on how to do this "unnecessary BS"
No probs, I am back to a smooth mood. You will be happy with Windows 10, trust me.
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โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Crashed:
If it's Windows 7 OEM there should be a product key sticker on the case for reinstallation.

No sticker with win7 key.
So it seems i have retail and i misplaced document that had key on it.

*sigh*

But as long as upgrade doesn't require retyping the key i am good right?
Just double checking.

Check that Nirsoft link which I have posted above.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย vgifford:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:
No probs, I am back to a smooth mood. You will be happy with Windows 10, trust me.

I just want my stuff to work, and the response from Steam Customer Service was not helpful at all. Will all of my Windows 8.1 programs work on Windows 10? Is it that far "backwardly compatible" ?
I had skipped Windows 8/8.1, cant exactly tell, but everything which have run on Windows 7 also run on Windows 10/11.

You might update some drivers for software and hardware though, as you need Windows 10 drivers.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย N3tRunn3r; 27 เม.ย. 2023 @ 9: 26pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

No sticker with win7 key.
So it seems i have retail and i misplaced document that had key on it.

*sigh*

But as long as upgrade doesn't require retyping the key i am good right?
Just double checking.

Check that Nirsoft link which I have posted above.

I am hesitant about using 3rd party software that reads stuff like this.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:

Check that Nirsoft link which I have posted above.

I am hesitant about using 3rd party software that reads stuff like this.

100% trustworthy. You can even run it from that ZIP file.
Run a "privacy for win 10 tool" from a reputated computer magazine site. When you are at win 10 first time.
And look through all settings once yourself. One by one, its faster done than it looks.
Use dark mode. One of the benefits of 10.
Slight note, I'd uninstall OneDrive if it's installed during upgrade, the limited cloud space isn't worth it taking over your documents folder for the free plan.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:

I am hesitant about using 3rd party software that reads stuff like this.

100% trustworthy. You can even run it from that ZIP file.

Still..
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ⎛ Alucard ⎞ ✟:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:

100% trustworthy. You can even run it from that ZIP file.

Still..
It mainly scans your registry. Nothing to worry about. It is a little helpful tool. It lists all MS product keys for you. Mark everything and save as a txt file.

My machines are really empty and clean. I never run suspicious files etc. I have trusted Nirsoft for decades.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย N3tRunn3r; 27 เม.ย. 2023 @ 9: 36pm
Much calmer with a plan in mind for an attempt at a solution that costs me no more money.
Steam Customer Service is useless and terrible. Steam USERS are much more helpful.

Shout out to N3tRunn3r.
You only need to know the key if you want to use another computer later.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Komarimaru:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย vgifford:
You going to upgrade my HARDWARE to work with windows 10? If so, I'll do it tomorrow.
Considering I've shown Windows 10 running without Issues on a Q9650 CPU from 2008, and you're on Windows 8.1 so probably a pre built machine for its era, I'm quite confident that Windows 10 would run just fine on your hardware and simply trying to make an excuse.
A gtx 750(2015) would have no problems with 10? Would I uninstall it first then install 10 and then reinstall it?
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Full_Throttle_F14:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Komarimaru:
Considering I've shown Windows 10 running without Issues on a Q9650 CPU from 2008, and you're on Windows 8.1 so probably a pre built machine for its era, I'm quite confident that Windows 10 would run just fine on your hardware and simply trying to make an excuse.
A gtx 750(2015) would have no problems with 10? Would I uninstall it first then install 10 and then reinstall it?

Not a problem on a slightest. Upgrade, so you can be sure license key is converted. On anytime later you can do a fresh install. While in clean installation you usually select "I dont have a product key", and enter it later after the Windows 10/11 installation process via Windows Activation Menu.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย N3tRunn3r; 27 เม.ย. 2023 @ 9: 46pm
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Full_Throttle_F14:
A gtx 750(2015) would have no problems with 10? Would I uninstall it first then install 10 and then reinstall it?

Not a problem on a slightest. Upgrade, so you can be sure license key is converted. On anytime later you can do a fresh install.
Ok well thanks for that information. Will keep that in mind
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Full_Throttle_F14:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย N3tRunn3r:

Not a problem on a slightest. Upgrade, so you can be sure license key is converted. On anytime later you can do a fresh install.
Ok well thanks for that information. Will keep that in mind
When 10 activates, when you do a clean install but forget your key, make sure to match the edition (home or pro, and whether or not it is a N version) so it re-activates correctly.
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย vgifford:
This is BS that we won't be able to play games we ALREADY purchased because YOU want to FORCE us to spend MORE money on newer computers. The games I play ALREADY work on my system and now you want to DENY me access to the games I already PURCHASED?!?!

If it makes you feel better it isn't STEAM that is causing all of this to happen. It is Microsoft.

Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 7 and because of that the OS is insecure and STEAM knows that.

They are not going to risk the security of their network and all of the other patrons because you haven't upgraded your computer.

I am sorry friend.
I don't claim to be an authority on any of this but here are some thoughts:



If you're unsure how to proceed from here, remember that Linux has come a long way and distros like Mint are designed to help people transition away from Windows. Linux distros are free and run on a wide range of hardware configurations. Brand new versions can even run on much older PCs. You can even install a theme pack that will make Mint look remarkably similar to Windows-7 or there are other Windows' skins for 10, etc, so you can have the look but not the O.S.. I believe.

Linux has improved dramatically in terms of compatibility and thanks to Proton, many games run right out of the box or with only minor tinkering. You can check compatibility either on the Steam Store where in many cases it tells you if the game runs on Proton or not, or there is ProtonDB which is a directory of games and how they run on Proton. And beyond that, there are even installers available through the Linux O.S.s themselves to install other games like League of Legends.

In the past, it would be best for people to have simply upgraded because the next Windows version was decent enough that there was no real reason to be worried, but due to things like the spyware that has been built into Windows 10, which whether you can truly disable it or not, the bad press at launch surrounding it had a huge impact on it and makes total sense why many people chose not to upgrade -- which is entirely Microsoft's fault for choosing to go totally bad like everyone else.

Win11 has it's own problems with MS accounts. Unlike in the past, people have very real and legitimate reasons that have prevented them from upgrading and those issues lay squarely in the hands of Microsoft and their terrible business decisions.

There are also side projects like AtlasOS which modifies Win10 installs to block the spyware, and remove much of the bloat, significantly reducing the system requirements to run it -- however, this comes with a warning. AtlasOS is still very new and even their site is not fully up and running, so I am only mentioning this as an option you can check into and explore, I am not suggesting you run out and get it right now. Keep an eye on it, give it time and see if it might become an option for you once they get better organized and act on some of the feedback they are being given.


But most importantly, remember, it's only April. This does not become an issue for you until near the end of this year, so take a deep breath, explore your options and take as much time as you need to decide which option is right for you, moving forward.

Do not just rush to a solution because of that annoying red warning VALVE has so graciously decided to put up there. Ignore it for now, you have lots of time yet.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย Mirai; 28 เม.ย. 2023 @ 9: 08pm
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