I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:42am
How about removing DRM if you are so inclined to discontinue Win7/8 support?
Seriously, Valve.

You want to force new requirements. And, yeah, it might be security you only think about. That's fine.

But how about a little bit of compromise? Your DRM is THE ONLY thing stopping Win7/8 users from playing the games they bought off Steam starting 2024.

If you take from your users, how about giving up something yourselves?
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Aachen Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:43am 
Valve cannot waive or ignore the IP owners’ rights.
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Iron Knights Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:44am 
Yep, I'd go for the clean .exe, no DRM. :steamthumbsup:
N3tRunn3r Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:45am 
DRM-free means piracy.. thats why GOG is that "popular"..
🍋 Lemonfed 🍋 Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:46am 
this is something that is up to the developer of each game , they're the one that programs their games to require the steam client to be running or not.

not all games can run without the steam clients but many already does.
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I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by Aachen:
Valve cannot waive or ignore the IP owners’ rights.

But they can ignore their customers' preferences, right.

Originally posted by N3tRunn3r:
DRM-free means piracy.. thats why GOG is that "popular"..

Mate, why is there Denuvo existing if Steam's DRM can cover all the publishers' needs? Because it doesn't work, that why.
Iron Knights Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:48am 
No Homer, No DRM means I own the game, no launcher needed to run it. None of those Run Steam First dirty scripts. Don't go full Biden on me now.
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I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:48am 
Originally posted by Lemonfed:
this is something that is up to the developer of each game , they're the one that programs their games to require the steam client to be running or not.

not all games can run without the steam clients but many already does.

Only a very few does. And it's titles like Dwarf Fortress and Conquest of Elysium.
Iron Knights Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:49am 
Customers do have Rights, we don't work for Steam. But they'll have you confused as to such.
I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by Iron Knights:
No Homer, DRM means I own the game, no launcher needed to run it. None of those Run Steam First dirty scripts. Don't go full Biden on me now.

Look, I don't know what deal M$ threw at Valve, but when it will end, they may as well force you to move onto Steam OS. Because they can.
Aachen Apr 27, 2023 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by I>U:

But they can ignore their customers' preferences, right ….

:earthish: Beyond a few, Valve’s not even cognizant of mine!

But, yes, though they do so at peril, that would be correct.
I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by Aachen:
Originally posted by I>U:

But they can ignore their customers' preferences, right ….

:earthish: Beyond a few, Valve’s not even cognizant of mine!

But, yes, though they do so at peril, that would be correct.

They have no competitors to create that peril, mate. Just like M$.

And they've already built powerful "alliances" with companies like EA. Kroot and Tau stand as one.

For the Greater Good!
Aachen Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by I>U:

They have no competitors to create that peril, mate. Just like M$ ….

You realize that “user switches to a competitor” is not the only possible peril, eh?
cSg|mc-Hotsauce Apr 27, 2023 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by I>U:
How about removing DRM if you are so inclined to discontinue Win7/8 support?

Seriously, Valve.

You want to force new requirements. And, yeah, it might be security you only think about. That's fine.

But how about a little bit of compromise? Your DRM is THE ONLY thing stopping Win7/8 users from playing the games they bought off Steam starting 2024.

If you take from your users, how about giving up something yourselves?

Why? You are or at least used to be on Win 10 in 2017.

:qr:
I>U Apr 27, 2023 @ 10:14am 
Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Why? You are or at least used to be on Win 10 in 2017.

:qr:

I have Win10 on my laptop. My oldie i7-3770 PC which is 12 years old now and outlasted 3 PSU's and 3 GPU (4 because of SLI) is still on Win7 installed, like, 10 years ago and customly tweaked since.

I do use Win10, but I preffer Win7, which is simply superior.

Also, even if you were right, that post is nothing less of shaming. But you are immune to that, I know.
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