Class action law suit coming over forced windows 10 upgrade

[efeljay]

I will not be upgrading to windows 10, especially when someone is attempting to force me to do so.
You can give me and everyone who will not accept this forced upgrade a full refund for all of our games, or you can face a class action law suit that you will loose.
Bad move steam, not a good decision at all.
=FLJ=

[Dendrobates Tinctorius]

my jd from google university didnt really explain this stuff, but you probably came across it in your 12 years etc.

So my question is this:

Автор сообщения: efeljay

Class action law suit coming over forced windows 10 upgrade

I will not be upgrading to windows 10, especially when someone is attempting to force me to do so.
You can give me and everyone who will not accept this forced upgrade a full refund for all of our games, or you can face a class action law suit that you will loose.
Bad move steam, not a good decision at all.
=FLJ=

Could you explain how the bolded passage is not extortion?

If this is a local thing, could you bring a citation or an online copy of the law around this stuff where you are?

[vgifford]

Steam is a way to sucker people. Got it. You don't own your games that you pay money for, you are only renting them. When "WE" decide to stop supporting your operating system for "INSERT EXCUSE HERE" then you will need to upgrade for us to honor our commitment. If you don't mandatorily upgrade, then its "Thanks for the money, sucka."

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

Автор сообщения: vgifford

Steam is a way to sucker people. Got it. You don't own your games that you pay money for, you are only renting them. When "WE" decide to stop supporting your operating system for "INSERT EXCUSE HERE" then you will need to upgrade for us to honor our commitment. If you don't mandatorily upgrade, then its "Thanks for the money, sucka."

read all the contracts you agreed too....

i remember reading games and hardware that said
if your system blows up its not our fault in the tos....

do you agree..... yes... give me the games...

its all ransomware.... dont agree dont play... and if you
got a game at the store and said i dont agree... no refunds
back then... sorry you broke the seal.. you own it..

[Taylor Swift's private jet]

Go on, then. File a lawsuit, big boy.

[vgifford]

Hey eventually they will DISCONTINUE service for your operating system too. It's only a matter of time. Perhaps then you will understand how the "OTHER" side feels. Either that, or you are made of money and hardware upgrades mean nothing to your wallet. Way to do business people. Bravo.

[Lystent]

Unless ms gets sufficiently more uppity, I'll likely keep up with a combo of hardware upgrades and windows updates (begrudgingly). If they do get sufficiently uppity, then I'll have to learn my way around whichever linux does the best imitation of windows (at running software).

[RX-0]

Автор сообщения: Blueberry {JESUS IS LORD}

Автор сообщения: efeljay

No you dont care and you dont speak for everyone.

majority of steam userbase dont care about win7

<1% on win7
no one cares
hence the point that
"no one cares"

That not about care or not care

To say no one care you need to know all that personns no care about that :| please be more constructiv

And we have more that 27% still on windows 7 and that major % are in Unintended Win 7 version that not synced with Steam because not listed



Problem of this are wrongly talked because as they said they using chromium API and they just only need to make theyr work like they doing without changing anything

They just need to add an additionale branche of Devs and the modification to port on it are very simple some people already solve the "FALSE ARGUMENT OF SECURITY" update

Exemple Chromium latest update only work on 10 can be backported to Win 7 users and Win 8+ 8.1 only thing to do its to separate that build version


like :

Steam X64Win10

Steam X64 Win7/Win8+8.1

And any developpers able to make a program like Steam can do that easly

[RX-0]

Автор сообщения: xtractor

So Bascily What STEAM is telling me is "Starting Jan 2024 we will rub you " "your paid Games was a limited time playable..but we didn't told you HAHHAHA! Screw you "

That why they miss something very important

You paid thos product and they don't have right and not alowed to block acces thes product you paid, they have to find a way to provide to people for what they paid to any OS after XP OS system

They can move devs branch to Win 10 and 11 only that alowed but they need to add another branch that make Windows 7 and 8 users able to install this Secondary branch to play theyr game on 7 or 8

[Zefar]

Автор сообщения: Darugdawg

every person has the right to sue. who are you to say he cant sue. steam is located in US not china

Yes he can sue but it's not a good idea. He'll lose pretty quick or it won't even get to that point because a lawyer will look at it and go "No, this is pointless".

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: vgifford

Steam is a way to sucker people. Got it. You don't own your games that you pay money for.

Spoiler: You never 'owned' them.

Автор сообщения: ragefifty50

read all the contracts you agreed too....

i remember reading games and hardware that said
if your system blows up its not our fault in the tos....

'As is' clauses are pretty much legal boilerplate and you'll find them at every software license in one way or another. Nothing 'scary' about them either.

Автор сообщения: vgifford

Hey eventually they will DISCONTINUE service for your operating system too. It's only a matter of time.

I was there still clinging to XP when Steam announced they'd drop support for it.

I upgraded my OS.

[vgifford]

@Tito Shivan

I own Starcraft. I have a CD that I can install on ANY Windows 98 machine I can find. I OWN it. Nobody can control on what machine I install it. It's 2023, I can STILL do it. Outdated machine. I still dont own Starcraft the IP. But I own an installer. And I own a machine that it will run on. Does Blizzard tell me I can't? Do they stop me from playing their games? Apparently I have to upgrade my OS. Luckily, apparently my hardware can. Not everyone's can. So, go out and spend MORE money on what you ALREADY paid for, and will work perfectly fine on the machine you ALREADY have. Brilliant!

[Lystent]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

...I was there still clinging to XP when Steam announced they'd drop support for it.

I upgraded my OS.

I'm hanging on to my win 7. I got plenty enough software that did not age well, compatibility-wise. I am lucky enough to have newer computers to have the latest OS's on though, granted I could somewhat easily have my win 7 machine also do win 10 on the side.

Автор сообщения: vgifford

@Tito Shivan

I own Starcraft. I have a CD that I can install on ANY Windows 98 machine I can find. I OWN it. Nobody can control on what machine I install it. It's 2023, I can STILL do it. Outdated machine. I still dont own Starcraft the IP. But I own an installer. And I own a machine that it will run on. Does Blizzard tell me I can't? Do they stop me from playing their games? Apparently I have to upgrade my OS. Luckily, apparently my hardware can. Not everyone's can. So, go out and spend MORE money on what you ALREADY paid for, and will work perfectly fine on the machine you ALREADY have. Brilliant!

I miss old DRM too. And not what 2k did with bioshock/borderlands. Disk installer, but would use a live service to let the game install. Their disks are bricks now. The internet has allowed for some seriously nasty DRMs.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: vgifford

@Tito Shivan

I own Starcraft. I have a CD that I can install on ANY Windows 98 machine I can find. I OWN it. Nobody can control on what machine I install it. It's 2023, I can STILL do it. Outdated machine. I still dont own Starcraft the IP. But I own an installer. And I own a machine that it will run on. Does Blizzard tell me I can't? Do they stop me from playing their games? Apparently I have to upgrade my OS. Luckily, apparently my hardware can. Not everyone's can. So, go out and spend MORE money on what you ALREADY paid for, and will work perfectly fine on the machine you ALREADY have. Brilliant!

https://www.scribd.com/doc/13298094/StarCraft-Manual

END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT:

YOU SHOULD CAREFULLY READ THE FOLLOWING END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT BEFORE INSTALLING THIS SOFTWARE PROGRAM. BY INSTALLING, COPYING, OR OTHERWISE USING THE SOFTWARE PROGRAM, YOU AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT. IF YOU DO NOT AGREE TO THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT, PROMPTLY RETURN THE UNUSED SOFTWARE PROGRAM TO THE PLACE OF PURCHASE OR CONTACT BLIZZARD ENTERTAINMENT CUSTOMER SERVICE AT [phone] FOR A FULL REFUND OF THE PURCHASE PRICE WITHIN 30 DAYS OF THE ORIGINAL PURCHASE.

Your Starcraft copy is as much of a license as it any of your actual games.You're still bound by the terms on that.

You, like many other people over the years have mistaken over the years devs inability to properly enforce license terms with 'ownership'.

[vgifford]

I can still install MY copy of Starcraft on ANY compatible machine I own. I can do it to THIS day. Steam is telling people in 248 days you wont be able to do this with the program you have already bought.

[lailaamell]

maybe people should sue over hardware requirments next for suddenly my gpu cant run game reasons basicly the software steam uses is not going to function on win 7 for the the software base is dropping support but why people cant just upgrade to linux over win 10 is beyond me