Dolphin Emulator

[Buginhead55]

You know if Steam will add this in steam market they will get sue by nintendo. Nintendo is strict about illegal emulator.

[Start_Running]

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Yeah but in this case nintendo doesen't go after emulators, unless the emulator site is also hosting roms. They go after roms. hence why retroarch which emulates multiple nintendo systems has never been sued by them.

Specifically Licensed Nintendo ROMs. The Home brew roms are fine :P.

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Some emulators USED to require the bios of the console to run, most if not all have been changed to make the bios OPTIONAL now, and let people upload a copy of the bios if they own the system.

Note the more modern the system to be emulated the more the necessity to have copyrighted code to run the emulator. almost anything beyond a PS1 needs the BIOS to be 'useful'. Dolphin is probably the only notable exception of something semi-modern being fully emulated and doesn't require copyrighted code. But PS2 and beyond need the BIOS to again be 'useful'.

Not really. I mean it starts out that way in the EMulator's alpha phase and overtime the public releases generally are about creating your own code to mimic the operations of the original. Many roads to rome and all that and the thing is since running on a PC is inherently different from running from a console...especially a Nintendo consiole, the code is going to be different asa course of nature. Nintedo doesn't use DirectX or OpenGl APi's an emulator running on windows does. Even without using them drawing to the screen on a PC is different6 than on a console.

Publicado originalmente por brian9824:

Also note that a program does not need to be 'technically illegal' to be removed from a service. Dolphin is for all intents and purposes 'technically' legal emulation. This doesn't mean Sony or MS are going accept it on their platform. Nintendo could easily drag any of them into court and sue them.

ABut they haven't and that's because they know they'd lose and worse they'd lose ina way that hurts them even more. Many countries have laws to prevent legal harassment. The simple truth is. The fact that Retroarch couldn't be stopped means that Dolphin can't be stopped by nintendo and trust me Retroarch steps on all the toes.

[That guy with the Spoon]

it's removed now from steam after Valve received a DMCA notice from the big N.

[davidb11]

Publicado originalmente por Ginosaji:

it's removed now from steam after Valve received a DMCA notice from the big N.

Citation Needed.
Besides, Nintendo doesn't have the authority to shut down Dolphin.
Not unless they want a lot of issues that they can't even afford to have.

[rawWwRrr]

https://dolphin-emu.org/blog/2023/05/27/dolphin-steam-indefinitely-postponed/

[fluxtorrent]

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

Publicado originalmente por Ginosaji:

it's removed now from steam after Valve received a DMCA notice from the big N.

Citation Needed.
Besides, Nintendo doesn't have the authority to shut down Dolphin.
Not unless they want a lot of issues that they can't even afford to have.

Store page is down, so its likely accurate, of course the moment they dispute the DMCA Nintendo will have to actually file a lawsuit to keep it down

[Reported.]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Smiles:

Publicado originalmente por buginhead55:

Dude doesn't matter Nintendo say it's illegal.

Nintendo makes and interprets the laws now?

I thought that's what governments and courts were for...

Nintendo had that attitude ever since they entered the gaming industry tbh. Hence the heavy handed approach they have to........................absolutely every single thing they do.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

I wouldn't be shocked someone ran and whine to Nintendo about this.

Funny thing is Nintendo still can't do anything against the actual emulator, nor the team making it, or working on it. So they could try fight DMCA on Steam if they wanted, or not that be up to them, I have feeling Steam might not care at this point.

[davidb11]

Publicado originalmente por fluxtorrent:

Publicado originalmente por davidb11:

Citation Needed.
Besides, Nintendo doesn't have the authority to shut down Dolphin.
Not unless they want a lot of issues that they can't even afford to have.

Store page is down, so its likely accurate, of course the moment they dispute the DMCA Nintendo will have to actually file a lawsuit to keep it down

Oh. Okay. That does make sense.

[Waifu4Life]

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

I wouldn't be shocked someone ran and whine to Nintendo about this.

Funny thing is Nintendo still can't do anything against the actual emulator, nor the team making it, or working on it. So they could try fight DMCA on Steam if they wanted, or not that be up to them, I have feeling Steam might not care at this point.

They don't need to, this is a scare tactic. Nintendo would lose in court.... if the Dolphin Team had the money to defend themself to begin with, which they probably don't.

Mind you, Nintendo clearly hasn't heard to the Streisand effect, this could just give the Dolphin emulator a boost and people will download it and add it manually to Steam like I did on my Steam deck

[That guy with the Spoon]

Publicado originalmente por Waifu4Life:

Publicado originalmente por Dr.Shadowds 🐉:

I wouldn't be shocked someone ran and whine to Nintendo about this.

Funny thing is Nintendo still can't do anything against the actual emulator, nor the team making it, or working on it. So they could try fight DMCA on Steam if they wanted, or not that be up to them, I have feeling Steam might not care at this point.

They don't need to, this is a scare tactic. Nintendo would lose in court.... if the Dolphin Team had the money to defend themself to begin with, which they probably don't.

Mind you, Nintendo clearly hasn't heard to the Streisand effect, this could just give the Dolphin emulator a boost and people will download it and add it manually to Steam like I did on my Steam deck :lunar2020gigglemonkey:

pretty much everyone who owns a deck already does emulation.

[T9]

Let a court, people with actual knowledge, handle this.

[DarkEmpire]

Valve need to fight back for this...It's valve game launcher and nintendo have to back off.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por t9:

Let a court, people with actual knowledge, handle this.

D

It has been decided with Bleem! when Sony tried to sue.

[Komarimaru]

Not a scare tactic.

https://youtu.be/hsQtv5IvrD8

Dolphin screwed up, that simple.

[Brian9824]

Publicado originalmente por DarkEmpire:

Valve need to fight back for this...It's valve game launcher and nintendo have to back off.

The product has nothing to do with Valve, its not their fight.