Buginhead55 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 6:01
Dolphin Emulator
You know if Steam will add this in steam market they will get sue by nintendo. Nintendo is strict about illegal emulator.
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blunus 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 7:47 
引用自 buginhead55
Dude doesn't matter Nintendo say it's illegal.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1552550/Castlevania_Advance_Collection/

Konami uses a GBA emulator for this collection and guess what? Nintendo uploaded this video trailer from their channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtdJho8vfUs

Other publishers have done that way, such as SEGA Mega Drive and Genesis Classics.

I'm so sorry that you got clickbaited into a random site that says it's illegal, pal.
最后由 blunus 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 7:53
Judgmental Amaterasu 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 7:47 
引用自 buginhead55
Dude doesn't matter Nintendo say it's illegal.

Oh yeah well my dog works for Nintendo and says otherwise.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 8:07 
Nintendo already knows about it. They definitely seen the many articles written about it in the last month yet, not a peep from them.

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最后由 cSg|mc-Hotsauce 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 8:07
Start_Running 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 9:49 
引用自 buginhead55
Dolphin emulator will be release soon i already report it you need read description dummy.
The emulator itself isn't surpported. I mean. Nintendo couldn't do anything against retroarch and that has a nes, Famicom, GB, and SNEs core in there.

What is illegal is the roms. So basically so long as the user only plays the homebrew games others have created (yes those exist, people are actually still making games for the NES even)
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 10:21 
If any marketing materials have any Nintendo products shown in them, Nintendo can immediately go after them.

If they don't, Nintendo has to sit in their corner.

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76561199488973502 2023 年 4 月 10 日 下午 10:38 
steam really should do itself a favor an just remove all talk about this type of thing
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 1:00 
I make this simple.

1. Emulation is not illegal by any means.

2. If you're selling, or distributing content of said game such as ROM/ISO, that be illegal. Emulators do not do this hence point 1.

3. Microsoft can dismiss emulators if they wanted, but if fail to realize what going on, Microsoft haven't fully acquire Activation Blizzard, and trying to make peace with it competitors. And again why wait years after this, if haven't realize, the issue is that they don't want put up with any possible complaints that can happen later, or ruin relationship. Other issue is selling console under Xbox brand with content that it doesn't have rights to is another problem on it own.

So as can see emulators are not a problem, and this is PC, if you really think Nintendo can sue, let see how far they can go just like with Sony that also failed to do it because they have no grounds to stop emulation to begin with.
Wolfpig 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 1:25 
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
I make this simple.

1. Emulation is not illegal by any means.


This might be true.......but, no one in here knows if not some countries have laws which say that even offering emus without the consent of the maker might be illegal/violation of intellectual property (and yes, for that you would not necessarily need original code of it in your stuff)

So it still could be that offering that software in some countries might would have to be blocked.
BlackBloodGhost 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 1:25 
引用自 buginhead55
Dude doesn't matter Nintendo say it's illegal.
Comment of the year. "This company says it's illegal, so it doesn't matter what the law says!" :steamfacepalm:
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 1:46 
引用自 Wolfpig
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
I make this simple.

1. Emulation is not illegal by any means.


This might be true.......but, no one in here knows if not some countries have laws which say that even offering emus without the consent of the maker might be illegal/violation of intellectual property (and yes, for that you would not necessarily need original code of it in your stuff)

So it still could be that offering that software in some countries might would have to be blocked.
For this to be a illegal in said country, it has to be deem as such by country Gov/ruler to outright outlaw emulation of any kind, which will include basically everything that has any emulation done really far back as PS2 for console, including far as Windows Me / 2000, linux, and mac. Either way the emulation remains in gray area as it never get to be illegal without contradicting, and only way around this is being very specific what emuatlion want to ban specifically, but this will only apply to where it being deem to be illegal, not anywhere else, example if deem illegal in Germany, it only affect those in Germany, not anywhere else.

Anyways point is that emulation isn't illegal as nothing was stolen in the 1st place, think of english to french translation it kind of like that, while game on console only understand french, we can make a translator that help it understand english that used on PC basically establishing a communication, there no rules saying you can't do this, and that kind of the point.




Another hard example that gray area is reverse engineering, this is something touch, and go how it was done, if using content from said copy protected content, then this will be a problem, but if it not using anything from said copy protected content then it's not a problem. Example reverse engineer of Jak & Ddaxter 1, it has none of the game code, it still requires you to use a legal copy of the game only found via disc copy, which means you have to own a copy, in order to use software to reverse engineer game to work on PC, and make it native PC port. They can't get in trouble for this, unless from above example Gov/Ruler deems it to be illegal for said country. Sony can send a letter to them but does nothing as no legal grounds, if any for that matters, same way Nintendo can't do anything about reverse engineer on Mario, and Zelda for N64 copies, no code was stolen, and requires you to use legal copy that you own.

So if someone want to make it illegal to use said content outside of side of designated device, they have to pass a bill, or law, or force consumer to sign a full legal contract that they're not allow to use said content outside of said designated device, but this in turn only shoot themselves in the foot as they be locking content for said device, and would jeopardize any future partnership for said content, or even future reuse of the content as stop yourself from being able to use it outside of own designated device, which again only makes it a problem for one self, basically saying for example if wanna play that mario n64 you're not allow to play outside of the n64, not even on the Wii, wiiu, 3ds, or switch despite all made by nintendo, is the fact they shot themselves in that area, that why they can't lock content to only said designated device.



Another hard example is doing backups, this can vary, but this requires you to keep the OG copy, if you happen to lose OG copy, have to delete / destroy backup copies, this was done in order for wear & tear protection where consumer wish to protect their copy from wear & tear, the issue behinds this is how unreliable this can be, from distributing/sharing/renting/leasing when not suppose to as that be illegal, hence the problem in that area, but this can vary what goes on, if being allow to make backup copy of said content, as it doesn't fall under distributing really as not giving it to anyone.
最后由 Dr.Shadowds 🐉 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 1:54
Brian9824 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 4:50 
Emulation isn't illegal unless it requires the bios of the software for it to work which programs like retroarch don't. Hence why Retroarch exists and it can run NES, SNES, GB, GBA, N64, etc. All nintendo products, and notice how nintendo hasn't banned or sued them.

Making roms is also legal as long as you own the game. Courts ruled long ago that as a software owner you are allowed to make backups of your own content or do stuff like rip your dvds to ISO's.

Emulation isn't using the source code of a console, its someone creating their own code to try to do what the console code did, hence why some games have bugs, glitches or artifacts because the new code doesn't emulate the old code perfectly.

Some developers like Microsoft ban emulators because they are too often used to access illegally obtained roms.

There is no law that prevents anyone from writing their own code to accomplish the same thing a console does, you just can't use their code.
最后由 Brian9824 编辑于; 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 4:51
Start_Running 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 5:30 
引用自 Wolfpig
引用自 Dr.Shadowds 🐉
I make this simple.

1. Emulation is not illegal by any means.


This might be true.......but, no one in here knows if not some countries have laws which say that even offering emus without the consent of the maker might be illegal/violation of intellectual property (and yes, for that you would not necessarily need original code of it in your stuff)

So it still could be that offering that software in some countries might would have to be blocked.
No country has such laws. Why because unless the emulator uses proprietary code (which none do). Then it's no different than a video player, or music player.

As said. There are games that can be legally sold, and played for those emulators. The MS, NES, SNES, GEnesis, etc, they all have communities of people who are still making games for them even in 2023.
Brian9824 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 5:39 
引用自 Start_Running
引用自 Wolfpig


This might be true.......but, no one in here knows if not some countries have laws which say that even offering emus without the consent of the maker might be illegal/violation of intellectual property (and yes, for that you would not necessarily need original code of it in your stuff)

So it still could be that offering that software in some countries might would have to be blocked.
No country has such laws. Why because unless the emulator uses proprietary code (which none do). Then it's no different than a video player, or music player.

As said. There are games that can be legally sold, and played for those emulators. The MS, NES, SNES, GEnesis, etc, they all have communities of people who are still making games for them even in 2023.

Some emulators USED to require the bios of the console to run, most if not all have been changed to make the bios OPTIONAL now, and let people upload a copy of the bios if they own the system.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 5:59 
guys, can give me just a little bit steam points? I need few for aganim frame, love u <)
Just finish your community badge, and you get 300xp, read the task on it, not hard....
eram 2023 年 4 月 11 日 上午 10:22 
引用自 buginhead55
Microsoft already banned emulator in xbox they don't wanna get sue.
its not banned in dev mode
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