Develop a Win 7 client? I mean it's a "software company" right?

[pineapplejuice]

Downgrading the UI is some nice work and all but maybe try to please your customers who probably paved the way to your success? Just Make a windows 7 client. You have different clients for IOS and such. I use windows 10 so idk but I just thought I would throw that idea out there.

[Satoru]

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Postat inițial de nullable:

Cite your source. Because if every every made up sales projection were true, Enron would be the world's most profitable company.

Probabilities do not require citation.

So just say you made it up then. Because that's obviously what you did. In which case your entire point is functionally invalid since it is based on a false premise which you cannot prove

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Postat inițial de nullable:

Cite your source. Because if every every made up sales projection were true, Enron would be the world's most profitable company.

Probabilities do not require citation.

of course they do

"The analysis of events governed by probability is called statistics."

from here

https://www.khanacademy.org/math/statistics-probability/probability-library/basic-theoretical-probability/a/probability-the-basics

you can't just state something and expect anyone to believe it without some kind of reasoning

[nullable]

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Postat inițial de nullable:

Cite your source. Because if every every made up sales projection were true, Enron would be the world's most profitable company.

Probabilities do not require citation.

Nonsense does not requires citation, everything else requires some kind of proof: IE show your work.

[ffoorreesstt]

Postat inițial de Qubo Night Owl:

Downgrading the UI is some nice work and all but maybe try to please your customers who probably paved the way to your success? Just Make a windows 7 client. You have different clients for IOS and such. I use windows 10 so idk but I just thought I would throw that idea out there.

And build an OSX 10.11/12 client.

[D. Flame]

Postat inițial de HikariLight:

Do you even bother to think about the time and money that would be required for that?

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

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Do you even bother to think about the time and money that would be required for that?

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

Hahaha

When's the last time you developed software for hundreds of thousands or millions of users in less than a week?

I mean you probably imagine it's just as simple as highlighting some code and deleting it and recompiling it. But that would be a gross oversimplification.

Although, the only thing I can say is the absurd optimism does track with an off the cuff developer estimate. But the typical strategy there is to double it, and then add half as much again, when the developer knows what they're doing. In your case, better add an order of magnitude additional time.

[Mad Scientist]

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Do you even bother to think about the time and money that would be required for that?

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

Custom client with all protections to prevent all forms of attacks as possible would take a significant amount of time and a large sum of money the more someone wants it sooner due to needing a larger team.

Software doesn't just get wished into existence. People really have no idea how many times one thing can break another thing causing a cascading issue, and that not every db utilizes the same structure so the commands do actually vary depending on what's being utilized. That is usually why you'd want the original team, or a team that can easily figure out your entire db architecture and apply it to a completely new custom coded client.

Usually when someone thinks it takes a quick amount of time for an entire store, client, forum, security,all the community stuff etc, I would prefer a demonstration that it only takes that short of time to accomplish the entire functionality.

[Cuchillo_Baishan]

Many would just be happy to have the last update modified so stored games can be launched forever.

And give a public announcement about these client future changes.

[D. Flame]

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Postat inițial de D. Flame:

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

Hahaha

When's the last time you developed software for hundreds of thousands or millions of users in less than a week?

You're adding a lot of conditional statements there, lol. Is it because you also know how easy it would be.

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I mean you probably imagine it's just as simple as highlighting some code and deleting it and recompiling it. But that would be a gross oversimplification.

No, I just know that making a legacy launcher that just verifies and validates games that you have already purchased so you can keep playing games would be an almost trivial matter. Any programmer worth his salt would be able to do something like that is a day or two. A week would be an entirely non-issue.

You are far overestimating what would need to be done to make this work.

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Do you even bother to think about the time and money that would be required for that?

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

if you really believe that,

i offer the same advice i gave another

show them how wrong they are

go and apply for a job with this as your entry point

we know that valve is willing to make a new system for china for the money

if you have some data that says they will actually make more by doing this

it stands to reason they would hire you

or at least take that info and use it

[Satoru]

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Do you even bother to think about the time and money that would be required for that?

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

Tell me you're not a software engineer, without telling me you're not a software engineer

[D. Flame]

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Postat inițial de D. Flame:

Time, less than a week.
Cost, less than what Steam makes in 30 seconds on their slowest business day of the year.

Tell me you're not a software engineer, without telling me you're not a software engineer

ad hominem

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Any other created client would still need to be compatible with th backend. This has been discussed ad ad nauseam. People don't search keywords before making threads.

They also didn't make a legacy client for XP, Vista, or 2000. Thry won't do it for 7 or 8 either.

[NakiBest]

* One client for Windows 7.
* 2nd, separate one for Windows 8.0. A separate team of programmers should do it.
* Obviously, 3rd one for Windows 8.1!

Now that's a really good idea! :-)

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Postat inițial de Cuchillo_Baishan:

Many would just be happy to have the last update modified so stored games can be launched forever.

And give a public announcement about these client future changes.

of course they would

that has been asked for for a long time

again

that is not steam

you are asking for a complete 180 on how they have conducted their business since it started

i will say here again that i would love a lite version

i loved small mode and no browser

a simple launcher would be flippin awesome

i do not think we will ever see one

certainly not because of lack of support for old os's