I hate people leave negative review because of motion sickness

[Zero]

It's not that I am not sympathetic, but motion sickness is really a personal issue. Yes devs could try to minimize the effect, but at the end of the day it will still persist.

It's like if I am blind then I just go ahead and leave negative reviews on all games because they don't have accessibility options. Not mentioning that motion sickness is an issue that can be overcame, you just need to try really hard.

I have no video game motion sickness but extremely serious ground-vehicle motion sickness (oddly nothing from boats), but I won't blame the drivers because it's my own problem.

[Nx Machina]

I suffer with motion sickness but it is dependant on the game in question. Secondly any game which causes motion sickness is refunded as the symptons come on very quickly and i could not continue to play it, therefore i could not recommend the game.

Is it a valid reason to put in a review? Yes because a review is personal to the writer and it could help to forewarn others who also suffer with motion sickness that it may be an issue for them.

[Wolfsun]

Azure Fang eredeti hozzászólása:

Wolfsun eredeti hozzászólása:

I have to agree with the OP, Zero. Motion sickness is a personal problem.

Reviews, are posted to a very wide audience some of which will appreciate knowing about motion sickness being a potential issue.. IF the reviewer can't play the game because he or she has motion sickness then the reviewer either shouldn't review the game if they couldn't play it long enough to provide a proper review or should right at the start of the review make a comment like, "I suffer from motion sickness and this game triggered it. If you suffer from motion sickness that is easily triggered by video games then this game may not be for you". ... and then move on to a proper review. Thumbup/thumbdown should be based on the reviewers take on gameplay and not their motion sickness which is not the fault of the developers.

Review the game not one's personal physical problems.

So you're saying if I can't recommend a game I'm not allowed to say I can't recommend a game?

Not saying that at all.
I'll clarify: If you cannot recommend a game and that is based on what you consider to be a failure of gameplay ex. UI, FPS, poor story, lack of good content, pc agenda, etc etc then by all means give it thumbs down.

However if your reason for thumbdown is purely based on a physical condition that makes the game unplayable for you, then - you should either not review it or explicitly state in your review the caveat that for those who have your physical condition the game may not be playable and the thumbdown is only for those players with your physical condition and that players who don't share your condition should move on to other reviews.

Clear enough?

[Azure Fang]

Wolfsun eredeti hozzászólása:

Azure Fang eredeti hozzászólása:

So you're saying if I can't recommend a game I'm not allowed to say I can't recommend a game?

Not saying that at all.
I'll clarify: If you cannot recommend a game and that is based on what you consider to be a failure of gameplay ex. UI, FPS, poor story, lack of good content, pc agenda, etc etc then by all means give it thumbs down.

However if your reason for thumbdown is purely based on a physical condition that makes the game unplayable for you, then - you should either not review it or explicitly state in your review the caveat that for those who have your physical condition the game may not be playable and the thumbdown is only for those players with your physical condition and that players who don't share your condition should move on to other reviews.

Clear enough?

So, only reasons that you approve of. Got it.

Listen: Valve does not give an "informational" option for reviews. All they give is "Recommended" or "Not Recommended" and the option to upvote, downvote, and report reviews. If someone has a problem with the operation of a game, they have the option to "not recommend" a game on those grounds. If you don't agree with a review's quality or content, downvote it. If you think it's abusive or off-topic, report it.

[Tristin]

Games intended to be played in distance, like couch games, can(in high likelihood) induce motion sickness if played in closer distance. Often, changing FOV or making some graphic setting changes can fix this issue for the player. However, there are games released carelessly not adding those personalized settings. This is not the users fault or something to get used to. It is developer's problem. If developer want to make extra cash by releasing couch-game to desktop, they need to make accommodations.

But yes, there are games that are manageable or that player can get used to. Nevertheless, still it needs to have settings that user can change for it.

Zero eredeti hozzászólása:

Not mentioning that motion sickness is an issue that can be overcame, you just need to try really hard.

People are not going to force themselves to play a game that will constantly make them nauseous, vomit, sickening. What a sick behavior that is. Someone who actually would do this constantly should go to mental hospital to get themselves checked out.

[Start_Running]

I mean its agreed that motion sickness is a opersional thing, and subjective but there are people who suffer from it and while the game maybe fine.. if it makes you physically ill to play...its very hard to actually recommend it positively, but you still can.

Irt is worth noting that whether or not the game triggers motion sickness can be a result from a lack of certain options by the dev. Like thge ability to to reduce disable, screen bob an, sway and shaking.

[MonkehMaster]

dunno if its motions sickness for me... but might be, anywho i start feeling sick when a game starts stuttering and is dropping frames to 40 or lower and that stutter/jittery movement simply makes me feel sick and hurts my eyes.

1 game i play that does this to me in particular, is graveyard keeper, never gave it a negative review over the issue, even tho the issue was the game being poorly coded and the devs ignoring the performance issues (including tons of bugs), but when i realized they ditched the game in that poor state to go make another game and year or so later find them shoehorning an advertisement in the main menu of graveyard keeper.... thats when i start giving negative reviews.

[Pierce Dalton]

People leave negative reviews for pretty much anything.

No controller support?
No ultrawide support?
There's a rainbow flag in the game?

Truth is you can't take Steam reviews seriously. Proof here:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1591290/Tree_Simulator_2022/

[Pierce Dalton]

Nx Machina eredeti hozzászólása:

I suffer with motion sickness but it is dependant on the game in question. Secondly any game which causes motion sickness is refunded as the symptons come on very quickly and i could not continue to play it, therefore i could not recommend the game.

Is it a valid reason to put in a review? Yes because a review is personal to the writer and it could help to forewarn others who also suffer with motion sickness that it may be an issue for them.

So if a game gives you motion sickness that means the game is bad?

You see, just another reason to implement neutral reviews. Thank you.

[Malfunctioning Robot]

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

Nx Machina eredeti hozzászólása:

I suffer with motion sickness but it is dependant on the game in question. Secondly any game which causes motion sickness is refunded as the symptons come on very quickly and i could not continue to play it, therefore i could not recommend the game.

Is it a valid reason to put in a review? Yes because a review is personal to the writer and it could help to forewarn others who also suffer with motion sickness that it may be an issue for them.

So if a game gives you motion sickness that means the game is bad?

You see, just another reason to implement neutral reviews. Thank you.

Where does the review system say the game is bad, it only asks if YOU recommend it

[Pierce Dalton]

Malfunctioning Robot eredeti hozzászólása:

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

So if a game gives you motion sickness that means the game is bad?

You see, just another reason to implement neutral reviews. Thank you.

Where does the review system say the game is bad, it only asks if YOU recommend it

I'm afraid you must improve your reading skills, dear friend.

So you think the user mentioned leaves a positive review when a game gives him motion sickness?

[Malfunctioning Robot]

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

Malfunctioning Robot eredeti hozzászólása:

Where does the review system say the game is bad, it only asks if YOU recommend it

I'm afraid you must improve your reading skills, dear friend.

So you think the user mentioned leaves a positive review when a game gives him motion sickness?

Which is the user saying they don't recommend it based on their experience, not that the game is bad. Perhaps you need to brush up on your own reading comprehension. Or are you one of those "I like waffles, Oh so you hate pancakes" types?

[Pierce Dalton]

Malfunctioning Robot eredeti hozzászólása:

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm afraid you must improve your reading skills, dear friend.

So you think the user mentioned leaves a positive review when a game gives him motion sickness?

Which is the user saying they don't recommend it based on their experience, not that the game is bad. Perhaps you need to brush up on your own reading comprehension. Or are you one of those "I like waffles, Oh so you hate pancakes" types?

You must believe everyone on Steam will read the review, right?

[Malfunctioning Robot]

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

Malfunctioning Robot eredeti hozzászólása:

Which is the user saying they don't recommend it based on their experience, not that the game is bad. Perhaps you need to brush up on your own reading comprehension. Or are you one of those "I like waffles, Oh so you hate pancakes" types?

:lunar2019crylaughingpig: You must believe everyone on Steam will read the review, right?

You have to read it to be "offended" that it talks about motion sickness. But I see I was right about that waffles thing, or you would not have come up with an entirely different meaning to something I said.

[Pierce Dalton]

Malfunctioning Robot eredeti hozzászólása:

Pierce Dalton eredeti hozzászólása:

You must believe everyone on Steam will read the review, right?

You have to read it to be "offended" that it talks about motion sickness. But I see I was right about that waffles thing, or you would not have come up with an entirely different meaning to something I said.

You sound so confused, but don't worry, I can make it simple for you:

Popular games have thousands and thousands of reviews, the chances of people reading your review are tiny. Therefore, explaining that the game is not bad and you just gave it a thumbs down because of motion sickness is irrelevant.

[Tolkien Book Fan]

I play a game where you steer a boat. Originally the camera was fixed and the devs warned that it could cause motion sickness. Recently they issued an update where they added an option to unlink the boat and the camera. Someone wrote in thanking them because fixed camera had given them motion sickness so bad they refunded the game. A dev wrote back thanking them in turn, as it was the first time anyone had told them it was so serious it was leading to refunds. The OP might not want to know if games cause motion sickness, but developers do, because they are willing to fix the problem if they can. And I've seen plenty of "the devs fixed my problem, so now I recommend the game" reviews.