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My Firefox has 11 ... sorry, 12, tabs open right now to Reddit. No. not mobile Reddit. No. Not old Reddit. Reddit Reddit. And it has an active YouTube video playing back in 1080p.
Current total memory use for Firefox: 2 ~ 2.2 GB.
Discounting the fact that Windows' task manager may still be misreporting memory consumption due to counting shared memory between processes for each individual process. (I'm not sure if that particular issue is still around, or if MS ever fixed it.)
On top of that, both Firefox and Chrome will in their standard configuration pause/suspend and ultimately page out inactive tabs and let them go to the pagefile on disk when the browser starts consuming too much of the system's available physical memory.
Your argument is not just invalid.
It is utterly and totally invalid.
Everyone knows 8GB isn't enough to use windows today. You're just trying to start arguments for no reason other than to argue for the sake of arguing and that's not cool. It's called trolling.
Your argument is that 8 GB isn't even enough to browse the web with 10 or so tabs open concurrently. It is demonstrably enough for that.
You're just trying to move the goalposts now.
And your goalposts are especially fraudulent because the bulk of the apps you mention are all Chromium powered apps that feature heavy RAM use already.
None of this matters. Everyone knows 8GB isn't enough for today's computers. It's common knowledge. As I said before: You're just trolling. And you're not even very good at it because it's very obvious. Try harder next time. Maybe you will get someone to argue with you.
Someone not agreeing with your opinion and presenting the reasoning and numbers to back that up, does not make that person a troll.
For the record: most pre-assembled off-the-shelf systems and laptops sold in 2020-2022 for regular home and office use still shipped with 8 GB. 16 GB was reserved for professional use and gaming, yes. But not for general use. And 32 GB was very much reserved for the top end of heavy-duty professional use and gaming.
The entire world does not consist of enthusiast gamers gunning for max performance at 4K that have a desktop-centric digital social life.
The bulk in fact consists of regular Joes and Janes that just do a bit of browsing and video watching; and otherwise run word processing or spreadsheet applications. They maintain most of their social contacts via apps on their phone so don't need bloated desktop Electron or CEF apps for that on their desktop.
And for regular browsing and some light-weight or even retro gaming on the side, 8 GB still more than suffices.
I built my PC like over a decade ago now with 16GB of ram and space/plans to upgrade to 32GB... but that need never really manifested it's self due other than niche applications I'm not interested in...
now? maybe I'd like to have a couple more GB of ram... but then again I'm going to need a new system in a few years when everything requires windows 11+ and I need a new MOBO which will basically mean a new PC since well... I don't think I'll find a modern MOBO that supports an i7 4770k or any ram I'd buy as an upgrade or anything else... so lets just keep with the 16GB.
this latest steam update is probably the worst of the bunch where performance is concerned. i'm also still waiting for a fix to the steam client to stop acting like a background picture and the washed out colour effect btw.
as far as performance is concerned it is eating up my ram at an impressive rate at times and loading up my cpu into the 90% range as well, when it does happen the computer programs freeze up or the mouse is acting sluggish even though i moved it seconds before.
i don't care for the window dressing valve are upto, they can change it as many times as they like, but i've been having issues with this version they dropped ever since.
Now that's interesting.
I wonder what business of Valve it is to scan your system for every other process loaded like that. Continuously even. And the fact that they're doing this undisclosed just raises more questions still...
https://i.imgur.com/TFNIJfx.png
why is steam looking more and more like malware?
also why is steam monitoring when you open and close files?
Do you really have all thoses process running ?if so, then you have a problem ;)
50+ cef process running at the same time ? i think you tryed to killed some and steam re launched some , because it's really weird. You usually have 1 shell , 1 main cef and it 8 cef child's process + 1 service.
And I have been using regularly, no trying to end processes or fiddling with anything, been shopping around the store during the sale using the steam client.