Viruses are being downloaded with Steam games

[espirito51]

In the past two weeks downloading a game from STEAM is like Russian Roulette, you don't know if that game will also have a VIRUS attached. My computer has caught THREE attached to Steam Games. so customer beware. I've been with Steam for years and never had this problem before, but now apparently, their game screening is defunct.

[RiO]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

and yet, none of my claims can be countered by your claims about non VIDEO games as a whole.
Mods are not video games.

PLease don't be like this.

Those two claims you made and which I just quoted again specifically can and are countered by the examples I gave.

You specifically stated Valve checks all files uploaded to their systems; to a degree that it is impossible for any malware to slip by. I showed you a case that proves that it is possible and actually happened. (You do realize they check the workshop uploads the same way they do the games themselves - right?)

You also specifically stated that games are not coded in ways that allow code to be dynamically emitted and executed. And that any development studio doing so; would be committing professional suicide.
I gave you multiple examples of games that allow for it and even rely on it -- for instance, for just-in-time patch delivery of transient in-memory only patches. And that those developers didn't exactly get nailed to the cross over it.

🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 eredeti hozzászólása:

We found the Epic Games Employee trying to say negative things about Steam to make steam look bad.

I'll have absolutely nothing to do with Epic or EGS, thank you very much.
The whole thing is an endeavor doomed to failure, kept afloat on cashflow from Tencent and Fortnite. Loose either and the whole thing comes tumbling down.

[davidb11]

I was clearly only talking about games, and you cannot claim otherwise.
Stop being like this, it makes no sense, and it does not help your credibility.
We are done here.
Good day.

And no, they do not check the workshop files the same way as actual games being uploaded.
Your own evidence supports that.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE For 30+ AV TO MISS A VIRUS IN A FILE UPLOADED AS A MOD.
GOod grief.

And even if someone made a program that badly done it is the EXCEPTION, not the standard.
You should know I USE LITERALLY AS AN EXAGGERATION.

[Prof.Jackie]

Muppet among Puppets eredeti hozzászólása:

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

I'm a bit confused here. Because Rio's message sure seemed like that.
Based on the fact he completely made up stuff about what I said.

I saw informations about dark souls, nintendo, borderlands, dota 2.
I would add some cod games into that.

Things can happen, and they need to be fixed. Thats what i read.

Don't know about the others, but Dark Souls wouldn't qualify as having a virus. There was a vulnerability that allowed remote code execution. That's more of an exploit and not a virus.
FromSoft had to completely disable online features and it took them a year to finally fix it and allow online play again.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Prof.Jackie eredeti hozzászólása:

Muppet among Puppets eredeti hozzászólása:

I saw informations about dark souls, nintendo, borderlands, dota 2.
I would add some cod games into that.

Things can happen, and they need to be fixed. Thats what i read.

Don't know about the others, but Dark Souls wouldn't qualify as having a virus. There was a vulnerability that allowed remote code execution. That's more of an exploit and not a virus.
FromSoft had to completely disable online features and it took them a year to finally fix it and allow online play again.

Yes it wasnt about virus in the games.

[Walach]

I don't see anything that would stop someone from uploading a game with a virus. But I would also not see a reason why someone would do that as well. But that might just be the thing, some people don't need a reason to do bad stuff. :(

If Valve had a solution to that, then they could probably reach out to microsoft, google, etc, and ask for a trade. Their checker program for a blank check the people at Valve can then fill in whatever number they want on. :P

Oh, and javascript is a perfectly fine language to write a game with.

[Mad Hatter]

Walach eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't see anything that would stop someone from uploading a game with a virus. But I would also not see a reason why someone would do that as well. But that might just be the thing, some people don't need a reason to do bad stuff. :(

If Valve had a solution to that, then they could probably reach out to microsoft, google, etc, and ask for a trade. Their checker program for a blank check the people at Valve can then fill in whatever number they want on. :P

Oh, and javascript is a perfectly fine language to write a game with.

Valve has been running the Steam platform for 20 years and set the industry standard. You don't get that reputation by being bad at what you do.

If you google "steam", the wikipedia result is for the platform, not for actual steam. Should say enough.

[RSebire]

Want to know what the most infected games are? According to data from Kaspersky, the following games on PC were the most malware-infected games of the past year:

Minecraft
The Sims 4
PUBG (Player Unknown’s Battlegrounds)
Fortnite
GTA V (Grand Theft Auto 5)
Counter-Strike GO
Rocket League
League of Legends
FIFA 21
Need for Speed Heat

These games mainly contain malware, bot nets, trojans and miners.
But there are many games out there that contain full on virus's.
Some by design.

All it takes is one bad dev in the team to spike the product, and....
Well the rest is history.

[Mad Hatter]

RSebire eredeti hozzászólása:

Want to know what the most infected games are? According to data from Kaspersky, the following games on PC were the most malware-infected games of the past year:

Minecraft
The Sims 4
PUBG (Player Unknown’s Battlegrounds)
Fortnite
GTA V (Grand Theft Auto 5)
Counter-Strike GO
Rocket League
League of Legends
FIFA 21
Need for Speed Heat

These games mainly contain malware, bot nets, trojans and miners.
But there are many games out there that contain full on virus's.
Some by design.

All it takes is one bad dev in the team to spike the product, and....
Well the rest is history.

Do you really not see the pattern in the games you listed? None of those vulnerabilities are due to anything being distributed by Steam.

[Muppet among Puppets]

RSebire eredeti hozzászólása:

Want to know what the most infected games are? According to data from Kaspersky, the following games on PC were the most malware-infected games of the past year:

"The games", but does that mean the games from ea or steam?

[Mia Wallace]

dont use steamworkshop and it shoud be fine

[RSebire]

Mobile games downloaded from the Google Play Store, for example, can be infected with malware. In November 2021, Google removed seven compromised apps from its store, which had a collective 70,000+ downloads.

Thats a lot of infections..
And remember thats a few years ago now.
It has only got worse since lockdown.

While Apple’s stringent development process and App Store requirements keep most iOS devices secure, that’s not to say that iOS users are completely safe from mobile malware, trojans and virus's.

Earlier in 2021, a major contributing developer to Apple’s services, Kosta Eleftheriou, shared his concerns about several applications available on the App Store.

And now the EU Government are forcing them to allow side loading too.
Bye bye iOS's safety...
It is a little bit too late to bolt the door when the horse is out the barn.

With the amount of "mobile" games on Steam now.
It is not entirely unsurprising Steam keeps its infections numbers well hidden.

So many games on Steam are now nothing more than shovelware, asset rips, repacked abandonware, it does not take a genius to see that Steam is riddled with infectious code too.

What is surprising is there is zero transparency, unlike Google or Apple for instance.

[Tito Shivan]

RSebire eredeti hozzászólása:

Want to know what the most infected games are? According to data from Kaspersky, the following games on PC were the most malware-infected games of the past year:

Minecraft
The Sims 4
PUBG (Player Unknown’s Battlegrounds)
Fortnite
GTA V (Grand Theft Auto 5)
Counter-Strike GO
Rocket League
League of Legends
FIFA 21
Need for Speed Heat

If you're talking about this:
https://www.kaspersky.com/about/press-releases/2021_lockdown-gaming-baddies-58-million-attacks-detected-over-the-past-year

You may have wanted to read the actual post before jumping in:

Over 5.8 million attacks by malware and unwanted software disguised as popular PC games were detected and prevented by Kaspersky solutions in Q3 2020 to Q2 2021.
[...]

This has nothing to do with malware IN games. And specially not about games downloaded from game distributors. Your source is about what happens when little Tim googles for 'MINECRAFT FULL DOWNLOAD' and grabs the first .exe he finds.

[RSebire]

Video games have made huge leaps and bounds graphically and technologically, but so have the capabilities of hackers who are out to steal your personal data and hard-earned cash.

When you’re trying out a new game or see a new piece of downloadable content (DLC), don’t let your excitement take the lead. Hackers commonly inject malicious code into games that discreetly steal personal information.

Mods (User generated content) should be used with great caution.
Great caution.
Whatever the source.

[Zarineth]

RSebire eredeti hozzászólása:

Video games have made huge leaps and bounds graphically and technologically, but so have the capabilities of hackers who are out to steal your personal data and hard-earned cash.

When you’re trying out a new game or see a new piece of downloadable content (DLC), don’t let your excitement take the lead. Hackers commonly inject malicious code into games that discreetly steal personal information.

Mods (User generated content) should be used with great caution.
Great caution.
Whatever the source.

At this point we should stop using computers at all, because software is "commonly" infected...

[Ni-Neith]

Yes, I also remembered.
A few years ago, I downloaded one game for myself, and there was a virus in it. Naturally, I uninstalled this game.
Now, most likely, everything is fine in the game, but once upon a time I had to deal with such a situation.
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