What made you buy games from Epic?

[Aya]

While we all know that Epic Games is universally loathed, I don't think i'm the only one who bought games from it (especially knowing Chivalry 2's pre-Steam success). But even as much as people dislike the platform, I imagine some people here have a really, really good reason to be disloyal to Steam over a game or three.

What game or games did you end up buying (purchases must be above one US dollar), and what drove you to buy it?

I guess to start off the thread, I am guilty of three acquisitions:

Crysis Remastered
At the time that game was new, games that supported real-time raytracing would use nVidia's RTX API over solutions that can be used on any form of RT-compatible hardware. As a tech demo, Crysis Remastered was actually breaking new ground in that you didn't need an nVidia RTX series or even an RT-compatible GPU. What ultimately convinced me to buy it on Epic was a combination of a store coupon that brought the total price down to $7.44 Canadian, and misplaced confidence that i'd beat the scalper bots to an AMD RX 6800 Surprising no one, i lost to the scalpers, but I did get an RTX 3070 out of frustration towards GPU scalping. Even if i didn't get to enjoy AMD-powered raytracing, real-time RT still felt like the cool new toy that a child would feel excited to play with during the end of 2020

Kingdom Hearts III
I've never really hid the fact that the Japanese PC gaming scene was a major source of annoyance for me. Hell, I was ready to believe that Trials of Mana's failure on Steam would mark the last time Square-Enix would make a PC game ever again. After a series of burnouts with several Japanese games only releasing on consoles that i wish would get PC ports, I ended up pre-ordering that bugger out of the principle of "I trust Japanese game developers with making decisions about PC gaming a lot less than I trust Epic making those decisions for them". Two years after said purchase, I'm confident that my decision has aged well considering PlatinumGames, Mobile Suit Gundam, and YoshiP's response to people wanting FFXVI to be on PC being "just buy a ps5 lol".

Chivalry II
Because the steam counterpart to that game involves one-sided curbstomp battles resulting from a lack of faction balance on a good day, or repeatedly dying to all-archer teams on a bad day. I'm talking about Bannerlord's multiplayer BTW. Like, it's "actually worse than installing the Epic Launcher" levels of bad. then again, my skill in Chiv2 can best be described as "wait for Bannerlord's multiplayer to be good"

[Pierce Dalton]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av ☮ne✟rue𝓢ax☯n:

I haven't....... That's not to say I don't get the free games. Yet to play any of them though.

No reason not to, don't trust them to stay around long term without making drastic changes to how they operate, but not like it costs anything to grab the games.

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks"

You guys are something else.

[The Commendatore]

I like free stuff. Only bought Gawdfall over there but now that it's on Steam? Playing it here.

[Tito Shivan]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

Free food can taste like crap.

[Crazy Tiger]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

Free food can taste like crap.

People complaining about free stuff surely isn't that odd. People complain about the free stickers and such every Steam sale.

[Pierce Dalton]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Tito Shivan:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks"

You guys are something else.

Free food can taste like crap.

Sure, then don't eat it?

[The Commendatore]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

Free food can taste like crap.

Or it tastes really good to lure you in and the paid product tastes bad.

I'm looking at you, recently opened Burger King in my area.

[Babi Gendut]

Opprinnelig skrevet av brian9824:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Babi Gendut:

Limiting consumers choice has been done by developers/publishers who made their games as steam exclusive long before EGS is even an idea. Whether or not valve paid for exclusivity doesn't matter for consumers, because we're being forced to use steam anyway.

Correct, EPIC took it to a whole other level and is the first time in PC history we now have the STORES forcing exclusivity... Something that before EPIC has NEVER been a thing.

Sadly the worst part of console gaming with forced exclusives of 3rd party games is now being normalized on PC and we all have EPIC to thank for it...

Store exclusivity has been a thing long before epic. And we all have steam to thank for it. Starting with Darwinia :

https://forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203

As part of the launch and Steam's exclusivity, we will no longer be offering Darwinia as a download option from our site, although it will still be possible to purchase shipped boxed copies. At Valve's request we will also be removing the demo from our site for about a month.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Babi Gendut:

The business model has been great for epic actually. Not as great as steam because most top games are steam exclusives, but epic is better than gog, origin, uplay in terms of userbase and popularity.

Not so great with money, their current losses are around 1.5 billion dollars and continuing to rise. Its not hard to be popular when your giving away free stuff, but popular doesn't make a business sucessful.

That's rookie number compared to popular business like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, etc. And unless you're living under a rock since ice age, you should know that popularity make business successful.

oh and I almost forgot, EPIC bringing us such asinine features as requiring an always online internet connection to play a single player RPG with the kingdom hearts games... Something that boggles the mind and is the most draconian form of DRM i've ever seen on any site.

I played single player games like control, HZD, batman arkham trilogy, outer worlds, and dozens others, and I never have any problem when playing offline.

So it's either devs who made that online requirement (blame them, not epic), or there is something wrong with your pc, or you just straight up lie.

[Brian9824]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

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No reason not to, don't trust them to stay around long term without making drastic changes to how they operate, but not like it costs anything to grab the games.

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

No different then the people in the thread who are using steam while badmouthing it, or whom keep posting on the forums while whining about how bad the moderation is yet keep posting on the forums where they get moderated...

[Brian9824]

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Correct, EPIC took it to a whole other level and is the first time in PC history we now have the STORES forcing exclusivity... Something that before EPIC has NEVER been a thing.

Sadly the worst part of console gaming with forced exclusives of 3rd party games is now being normalized on PC and we all have EPIC to thank for it...

Store exclusivity has been a thing long before epic. And we all have steam to thank for it. Starting with Darwinia :

You really aren't getting it are you....

The difference there is Steam paid to have the game developed so it belonged to them. No issues with Fortnite being an epic exclusive, they paid for it its their product. Same with Counter Strike, half-Life, Rocket League, etc. Nothing wrong with having the game you paid for be on your store.

When you pay to have a game developed you own the rights to distribute it. What's morally wrong is paying someone who already has a game money for the sole purpose of LIMITING where the dev's can sell it. Something you see on consoles all the time, but was never done on PC until EPIC came in. EPIC doesn't own most of their exclusive games, they just pay to limit where consumers can purchase games from which ironically enough is one of the text book elements of an illegal monopoly. Although their market share is so low that they wont have to worry about that anytime soon.

[Start_Running]

UI'll let you know when it happens.

[Mailer]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Opprinnelig skrevet av brian9824:

No reason not to, don't trust them to stay around long term without making drastic changes to how they operate, but not like it costs anything to grab the games.

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

To be fair, if Epic wanted to filter out the freeloaders, they could have just necessitated that the game be fully installed through their launcher at least once first to actually keep it.

The way it is right now, it's not irrational to redeem them regardless of whether the intention is to play them now, since it is yet another contingency plan in case something happens to the current library.

[Pierce Dalton]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks"

You guys are something else.

No different then the people in the thread who are using steam while badmouthing it, or whom keep posting on the forums while whining about how bad the moderation is yet keep posting on the forums where they get moderated...

Totally different, I'm not here just to get the free stuff.

Also, these forums are pretty funny you can always have a good laugh.

[Brian9824]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Pierce Dalton:

Imagine eating for free every weekend and then going around saying "wow this restaurant sucks" :WH3_greasus_rofl::lol:

You guys are something else.

To be fair, if Epic wanted to filter out the freeloaders, they could have just necessitated that the game be fully installed through their launcher at least once first to actually keep it.

The way it is right now, it's not irrational to redeem them regardless of whether the intention is to play them now, since it is yet another contingency plan in case something happens to the current library.

Perhaps they will surprise us, never know, but not going to hold my breath. Any version of EPIC that is able to generate a profit is going to look vastly different then the EPIC people are used to now. Kind of like Moviepass where when it launched it was too good to be true and as a result didn't last.

The new version is nowhere near as nice as the original one they had.

[76561199502155650]

in all honestly disatifaction is when people speak up, not many people speak up when they are satisifed with a product, but if disatisfed you sure hear about it.

many people buy things expecting them to work, and when they won't work as intended they complain, that is why companys have complaint departments and not product enjoyment departments.

when we hear things about steam from users 99% of the times its bad and negitive reviews, simply because they are speaking up, when nobody says anything about steam it means steams working as its intended, no news is good news.

of course steam is more popular due to its negitive reviews because when something is talked about, good or bad, it is on peoples minds.

i don't really have anything to say about the other gaming platforms, because they work as intended, they give free games, the games work, there is also no complaint department about it when the games don't work.

i will say that around new years the game "death Stranding" was given away for free and it caused alot of system errors because of the high rate at which people where getting the free game. it took me like 20 times trying to reload the page to finally get the game for free.

that in a nut shell was really one of the only complains i had about the other gaming platform company, the pricies on it where actually competitive if not better then steams.

[RasaNova]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av RasaNova:

Oh, the irony...

Where's the irony? Are you implying that people using all platforms are fanboys of a specific one?

Accusing those who find Epic's exclusivity contracts as non-consumer friendly of just being "coping theory" for hypocrite "Steam fanboys?" The irony in my view is that the "coping theory" would be a Steam hater seeing forced exclusive contracts as being the same as a developer CHOOSING where they want to sell.