Iron Knights (已封禁) 2023 年 7 月 30 日 下午 8:50
Linux is not a viable Gaming OS, yet, if it will ever be.
Stop suggesting that out of want for more people to use it.
Unless you get game developers to write for Linux, it won't happen.
Yes, I'll get replies from all those people that say "but muh distro version of Linux runs 90% of games". Yes, 90% of the games you like to play, excuse me if I no longer play 4bit, 2D, scrolling or static screen games.
I would love to game on Linux, I love it for everything else it does well. However, the developers are not willing to unite and write a Kernel that does Driver Building. What I mean by that is Not to have to DL an AMD Driver or Asus Chipset, but to have the current Kernel run basic & then start building drivers for EVERYTHING. Detect device, run min.-max. & specs. optimize settings when driver complete. Kind of like an expert level Auto-Installer, not even A.I., systematically going through everything detected. Then and only then Linux will run to Hardware Specs..
After that we need to get the developers on board to run more and more Linux compatible games, while we phase out Windows compatible games. THAT is how you phase out Microsoft.
They already lost the Cellphone OS battle.
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Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 1:00 
引用自 ?legit
引用自 SqueakyTweaky
As soon as anticheats like eac etc start working on Linux then it wouldn't matter if it is window or Linux.
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.


Yeah. It's because the devs don't turn on the option for it to work on Linux.

That's it.
Cathulhu 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 1:53 
引用自 ?legit
引用自 SqueakyTweaky
As soon as anticheats like eac etc start working on Linux then it wouldn't matter if it is window or Linux.
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Cray 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 3:24 
OP sounds kinda clueless, like he hasn't tried installing linux since 2005. Drivers are automatically detected and included these days unless you opt for some diehard open-source-only distro.

Then goes on to complain about the post-install stuff you gotta do, and that you gotta go download drivers somewhere.. for the love of god, man, that's exactly what happens on windows too. install, then spend a day cleaning out cortana, telemetry, and a metric ton of useless apps and background services. And then you go to amd/nvidia . com website and download the drivers. And then you go over half of it next month when microsoft re-enables and reinstalls stuff with a forced update.

Gaming on Linux has a ways to go, but it's quite good, and windows was never perfect. Gaming on linux is going to improve dramatically now that the steam deck is out. Gaming on windows is not going to get any better, and the whole os is gonna keep treating you like a peasant leasing their pc from microsoft.

All operating systems suck. Nearly all computers suck. Linux is less infuriating in the long run.
KalGimpa 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:38 
引用自 D. Flame
引用自 KalCuey


instead of playing this game

i downloaded dfo

and am currently logged in and playing

i am using the latest manjaro
You know people spend literally thousands of dollars on these games, right? The staff for DFO consider it 3rd party software and the ToS say they will ban you for using it. There are multiple accounts of it giving people issue.

I spent like $500 on the game. I would not risk that over a chance of getting banned just to play on Linux.


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
[?]legit 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:50 
引用自 Cathulhu
引用自 ?legit
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:
"We don’t have confidence that we’d be able to combat cheating at scale under a wide array of kernel configurations including custom ones."

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.
Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:53 
引用自 ?legit
引用自 Cathulhu
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:
"We don’t have confidence that we’d be able to combat cheating at scale under a wide array of kernel configurations including custom ones."

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
[?]legit 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:54 
引用自 SlowMango
引用自 ?legit
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:


https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
Your question is answered in the articles I linked above.
D. Flame 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:57 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 D. Flame
You know people spend literally thousands of dollars on these games, right? The staff for DFO consider it 3rd party software and the ToS say they will ban you for using it. There are multiple accounts of it giving people issue.

I spent like $500 on the game. I would not risk that over a chance of getting banned just to play on Linux.


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula
PRECONDITIONS OF THE GRANT OF LICENSE

---You will use the Software only on a computer, running validly licensed copies of operating systems which the Game was designed to operate;

---You will refrain from using any hacks, cracks, bots, or third party software which may modify, temporarily or permanently, the Software or the user experience of the Game, whether on your local machine or on servers which enable use of any features of the Game
Boblin the Goblin 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 4:59 
引用自 ?legit
引用自 SlowMango


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
Your question is answered in the articles I linked above.


It's 'answered' with speculation. Which ironically goes against Epic's actions or working with Steam for EAC compatibility for Proton and WINE.

But hey, Sweeny isn't really known as an honest guy.
KalGimpa 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 5:23 
引用自 D. Flame
引用自 KalCuey


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula
PRECONDITIONS OF THE GRANT OF LICENSE

---You will use the Software only on a computer, running validly licensed copies of operating systems which the Game was designed to operate;

---You will refrain from using any hacks, cracks, bots, or third party software which may modify, temporarily or permanently, the Software or the user experience of the Game, whether on your local machine or on servers which enable use of any features of the Game


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
D. Flame 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 5:38 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 D. Flame
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.
KalGimpa 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 5:42 
引用自 D. Flame
引用自 KalCuey


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
D. Flame 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 6:07 
引用自 KalCuey
引用自 D. Flame
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
:steamthumbsup:
KalGimpa 2023 年 7 月 31 日 下午 6:43 
引用自 D. Flame
引用自 KalCuey


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
:steamthumbsup:


does that thumbs up mean that you do not know?

i mean

i say straight up i can use it and do not know anything about it being against any rules

and i can see posting that warning if you found some post

somewhere

saying that this has happened

but saying it to say it is just too much and straight fearmongering
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