Iron Knights (Di-ban) 30 Jul 2023 @ 8:50pm
Linux is not a viable Gaming OS, yet, if it will ever be.
Stop suggesting that out of want for more people to use it.
Unless you get game developers to write for Linux, it won't happen.
Yes, I'll get replies from all those people that say "but muh distro version of Linux runs 90% of games". Yes, 90% of the games you like to play, excuse me if I no longer play 4bit, 2D, scrolling or static screen games.
I would love to game on Linux, I love it for everything else it does well. However, the developers are not willing to unite and write a Kernel that does Driver Building. What I mean by that is Not to have to DL an AMD Driver or Asus Chipset, but to have the current Kernel run basic & then start building drivers for EVERYTHING. Detect device, run min.-max. & specs. optimize settings when driver complete. Kind of like an expert level Auto-Installer, not even A.I., systematically going through everything detected. Then and only then Linux will run to Hardware Specs..
After that we need to get the developers on board to run more and more Linux compatible games, while we phase out Windows compatible games. THAT is how you phase out Microsoft.
They already lost the Cellphone OS battle.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh ?legit:
Diposting pertama kali oleh SqueakyTweaky:
As soon as anticheats like eac etc start working on Linux then it wouldn't matter if it is window or Linux.
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.


Yeah. It's because the devs don't turn on the option for it to work on Linux.

That's it.
Cathulhu 31 Jul 2023 @ 1:53pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh ?legit:
Diposting pertama kali oleh SqueakyTweaky:
As soon as anticheats like eac etc start working on Linux then it wouldn't matter if it is window or Linux.
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Cray 31 Jul 2023 @ 3:24pm 
OP sounds kinda clueless, like he hasn't tried installing linux since 2005. Drivers are automatically detected and included these days unless you opt for some diehard open-source-only distro.

Then goes on to complain about the post-install stuff you gotta do, and that you gotta go download drivers somewhere.. for the love of god, man, that's exactly what happens on windows too. install, then spend a day cleaning out cortana, telemetry, and a metric ton of useless apps and background services. And then you go to amd/nvidia . com website and download the drivers. And then you go over half of it next month when microsoft re-enables and reinstalls stuff with a forced update.

Gaming on Linux has a ways to go, but it's quite good, and windows was never perfect. Gaming on linux is going to improve dramatically now that the steam deck is out. Gaming on windows is not going to get any better, and the whole os is gonna keep treating you like a peasant leasing their pc from microsoft.

All operating systems ♥♥♥♥. Nearly all computers ♥♥♥♥. Linux is less infuriating in the long run.
KalGimpa 31 Jul 2023 @ 4:38pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:


instead of playing this game

i downloaded dfo

and am currently logged in and playing

i am using the latest manjaro
You know people spend literally thousands of dollars on these games, right? The staff for DFO consider it 3rd party software and the ToS say they will ban you for using it. There are multiple accounts of it giving people issue.

I spent like $500 on the game. I would not risk that over a chance of getting banned just to play on Linux.


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
[?]legit 31 Jul 2023 @ 4:50pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:
Diposting pertama kali oleh ?legit:
There is a reason why most anticheats don't work under linux. Sadly support for anti cheats isn't going to happen anytime soon.
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:
"We don’t have confidence that we’d be able to combat cheating at scale under a wide array of kernel configurations including custom ones."

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.
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Diposting pertama kali oleh Cathulhu:
https://boilingsteam.com/enabling-eac-support-on-linux-now-easier/
Well, you are very wrong. EAC does have Linux support. Devs only need to flip a switch to enable it.
So, the option is available, the game just needs an update to use it.
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:
"We don’t have confidence that we’d be able to combat cheating at scale under a wide array of kernel configurations including custom ones."

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
[?]legit 31 Jul 2023 @ 4:54pm 
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Diposting pertama kali oleh ?legit:
Sure, it's "only one switch", however this mode of operation is seemingly a comparatively high-trust configuration, where only part of the anti-tampering protections of EAC are active. This may prevent some cheats but fail to detect others.
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/tim-sweeney-is-right-about-the-difficulty-of-adapting-fortnites-eac-to-linux/


Tim Sweeney, Epic Games CEO, says:


https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/02/epic-games-ceo-says-a-clear-no-to-fortnite-on-steam-deck/


Honestly it seems quite understandable to me that linux isn't supported (on purpose) in some multiplayer games.


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
Your question is answered in the articles I linked above.
D. Flame 31 Jul 2023 @ 4:57pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
You know people spend literally thousands of dollars on these games, right? The staff for DFO consider it 3rd party software and the ToS say they will ban you for using it. There are multiple accounts of it giving people issue.

I spent like $500 on the game. I would not risk that over a chance of getting banned just to play on Linux.


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula
PRECONDITIONS OF THE GRANT OF LICENSE

---You will use the Software only on a computer, running validly licensed copies of operating systems which the Game was designed to operate;

---You will refrain from using any hacks, cracks, bots, or third party software which may modify, temporarily or permanently, the Software or the user experience of the Game, whether on your local machine or on servers which enable use of any features of the Game
Diposting pertama kali oleh ?legit:
Diposting pertama kali oleh SlowMango:


Is that why they literally released tools to have EAC work on Linux?
Your question is answered in the articles I linked above.


It's 'answered' with speculation. Which ironically goes against Epic's actions or working with Steam for EAC compatibility for Proton and WINE.

But hey, Sweeny isn't really known as an honest guy.
KalGimpa 31 Jul 2023 @ 5:23pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:


what are you on about?

i dl'd the game and played for an hour

it works fine and i got no warning about me being on linux

once again, you are shown that it works and then come up with something else

partner,

you are running out of room
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula
PRECONDITIONS OF THE GRANT OF LICENSE

---You will use the Software only on a computer, running validly licensed copies of operating systems which the Game was designed to operate;

---You will refrain from using any hacks, cracks, bots, or third party software which may modify, temporarily or permanently, the Software or the user experience of the Game, whether on your local machine or on servers which enable use of any features of the Game


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
D. Flame 31 Jul 2023 @ 5:38pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
*sigh*

https://www.dfoneople.com/policy/eula


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.
KalGimpa 31 Jul 2023 @ 5:42pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:


now you just look silly

go tell steam they cannot let this run on the steam deck because it breaks the rules

then report it to the devs of that game

let them know that people on linux can play

i will wait to see what it is they tell you

i mean

the lengths you are going to try and fit this agenda of yours together

just amazingly useless
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
D. Flame 31 Jul 2023 @ 6:07pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
You're the one ignoring the facts even when they are spelling out for you right there by the game company themselves. De nile is more than just a river in Egypt, apparently.


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
:steamthumbsup:
KalGimpa 31 Jul 2023 @ 6:43pm 
Diposting pertama kali oleh D. Flame:
Diposting pertama kali oleh KalCuey:


don't worry

we will see

https://steamcommunity.com/app/495910/discussions/0/3805030452332002914/
:steamthumbsup:


does that thumbs up mean that you do not know?

i mean

i say straight up i can use it and do not know anything about it being against any rules

and i can see posting that warning if you found some post

somewhere

saying that this has happened

but saying it to say it is just too much and straight fearmongering
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