Ban & Delete - Steam Stealing Games from Customers.

[Iron Knights]

They are still stealing games from paying customers.
Guess which gaming platform will be sued out of existence first ?
I don't even have a chromium browser, but I know with certainty that Windows 10 has 0 improvements over Windows 7. I installed Windows 7, 8.1, 10 on my PC and tested them all out. Not only is Windows 10 a virus, it operates like a cellphone OS and looks even worse. There maybe 10% Windows Masters out there, elite programmers that know how to slim down the new OS and keep it operational (and even then their choices maybe questionable). Guess what, most gamers out here on steam are not even beginner level programmers, don't know how to setup gaming features in their Bios, OS or Drivers. You're forcing them not only to pay for licensing but software they do not want nor need. For 0 reasons, as I said above. There are no new features in Win 10 other than spyware & malfunction. Reports shown of 2022, Win 10 had up to 30% more security faults than Win 7 & will end up with more faults in 2025 at EOL also.
As for new cryptography that they use for Artificial Planned Obsolescence and against us, it can be installed on Win 98 and Netscape (32bit) with just as much ease as Windows 7 (64bit) and Firefox. There is 0 excuse for a corporation to Breach Contract with their customers without end and not be held responsible to the Law. Goodbye Steam, it's been a forced and unnecessary experience for me as a gamer and user. The earlier CD/DVD install media did not print that you must have a steamed account to install and run a game, even. Talk about subversive tactics and illegal activities some of these newborn have no idea about.
An International Corporation is Subject to and Liable to the Laws of Each and Every Country it operates inside of and ad-hoc policies do not make for Law or Contract.
For those of you who do not understand Breech of Contract, when a business changes the First contract, giving you the options of signing Yes or Loose Property or Incur Damage on the Second - that is breech of contract. How many times has slick valve done that ? You tell me.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

https://support.gog.com/hc/en-us/articles/212632089-GOG-User-Agreement?product=gog

GOG License původně napsal:

2.1 We give you and other GOG users the personal right (known legally as a 'licence') to use GOG services and to download, access and/or stream (depending on the content) and use GOG content. This licence is for your personal use. We can stop or suspend this licence in some situations, which are explained later on.

[Chompman]

Iron Knights původně napsal:

When you do your file integrity and OS health check, that is your Windows 7 maintained.

That's not being maintained as microsoft no longer is supporting it and steam cannot do anything about it when it is a security risk and no longer is supported to run correctly.

[Jon the VGNerd]

Chompman původně napsal:

You have 17 years on steam and you have experienced many OS's being dropped because it's no longer supported and this is not a steam issue.

This is nothing new to you so what are you surprised about?

He's about to learn the hard way the moment he realizes that newer games require beefy PC specs and that they don't run on outdated operating systems, with 7 being the obvious case.

[Skeletor]

Accept or not, Windows 7 support won't exist anymore. Upgrade your system or go away.

[Azure Fang]

Iron Knights původně napsal:

Any car maintained is still on the road today and runs just fine, doing its intended job perfectly.
Invalid Apple to Oranges argument.

Multiple states in the US and countries the world over have bans in place for 2030-2040 against all fossil fuel vehicles. Multiple EU countries have bans against vehicles manufactured before varying years due to emissions. I'd say such a comparison is apropos.

[lailaamell]

Getty původně napsal:

I'm on Windows 7, I love it. But Steam can choose to force us to upgrade the OS in order to play games purchased from them. Get a cheap SSD and run 10 for Steam, there are videos on how to remove the unwanted aspects of 10. I wish all of Steam was DRM free and we could do with the game what we wanted, that isn't an option. You have to live with it. A small Samsung 870 EVO is pretty cheap, and Windows 10 can be had for free if you don't care about the watermark and personalization of the desktop. I'll spring $20 for a Pro version that I can activate. That should buy a few years, anyway. :D

Most of these posts are made by ppl who only want win 7 and its basicly win 7 or nothing at all i noticed

[D. Flame]

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

Getty původně napsal:

I'm on Windows 7, I love it. But Steam can choose to force us to upgrade the OS in order to play games purchased from them. Get a cheap SSD and run 10 for Steam, there are videos on how to remove the unwanted aspects of 10. I wish all of Steam was DRM free and we could do with the game what we wanted, that isn't an option. You have to live with it. A small Samsung 870 EVO is pretty cheap, and Windows 10 can be had for free if you don't care about the watermark and personalization of the desktop. I'll spring $20 for a Pro version that I can activate. That should buy a few years, anyway. :D

Most of these posts are made by ppl who only want win 7 and its basicly win 7 or nothing at all i noticed

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

[KalGimpa]

D. Flame původně napsal:

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

Most of these posts are made by ppl who only want win 7 and its basicly win 7 or nothing at all i noticed

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

yes

to continue to use the convenience of the steam system

you will have to continue to update to a semi-modern os

seeing as how steam continues to support the os long after the company making it

11 should be close to gone by then and 12 well into use

you will then have three generations of worth of data to decide if windows is going to be

something you wish to stay with

[D. Flame]

KalCuey původně napsal:

D. Flame původně napsal:

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

yes

to continue to use the convenience of the steam system

you will have to continue to update to a semi-modern os

seeing as how steam continues to support the os long after the company making it

11 should be close to gone by then and 12 well into use

you will then have three generations of worth of data to decide if windows is going to be

something you wish to stay with

My main gaming PC does "not support" Windows 11, minus the ISO hack to bypass compatibility checks. Meanwhile, it can run pretty much every modern game at high or Ultra settings.

These forced upgrades are purely because of M$ using its monopoly to fatten its own wallet. Nothing more, nothing less.

[BJWyler]

Iron Knights původně napsal:

They are still stealing games from paying customers.

Incorrectomondo, my dude! The games are still tied to your Steam account, and always will be unless you, yourself, do something to remove them. So nothing is getting stolen.

Iron Knights původně napsal:

Guess which gaming platform will be sued out of existence first ?

None of the above, because every online service has clauses that essentially say they can and will maintain future updates and compatibility as technology progresses. Been that way for decades, Sonny Jim. MMOs drop support for OSes, Steam, GoG, EGS, WildTangent, et al. all have dropped support for old OSes, including Windows 7. So you are wrong again!

Iron Knights původně napsal:

I don't even have a chromium browser, but I know with certainty that Windows 10 has 0 improvements over Windows 7. I installed Windows 7, 8.1, 10 on my PC and tested them all out. Not only is Windows 10 a virus, it operates like a cellphone OS and looks even worse.

Well everyone is going to have differing opinions about different things, but I have found quite the opposite in the 4 years I've been on 10. I find it to be a much superior OS than Windows 7. Of course, I still prefer XP over 7 as well, but that's neither here nor there.

Iron Knights původně napsal:

There maybe 10% Windows Masters out there, elite programmers that know how to slim down the new OS and keep it operational (and even then their choices maybe questionable). Guess what, most gamers out here on steam are not even beginner level programmers, don't know how to setup gaming features in their Bios, OS or Drivers. You're forcing them not only to pay for licensing but software they do not want nor need. For 0 reasons, as I said above.

Wow, batting 0 for 3 right now as my 78 year old mother doesn't have issues with Windows 10 and can get around it fairly well. She never had a day of programming in her life. Don't need to be a programmer to maintain any OS with a default installation.

Iron Knights původně napsal:

There is 0 excuse for a corporation to Breach Contract with their customers without end and not be held responsible to the Law.

An no breech of contract has occurred, either. So there's nothing to get all frothy at the mouth about here. Or on GoG or on EGS.

Iron Knights původně napsal:

Goodbye Steam, it's been a forced and unnecessary experience for me as a gamer and user.

Last time I checked, no one is forced to use Steam, it's always been a choice. In fact I never used Steam until 2016, when I made the choice to use it play games I was interested in playing.

Iron Knights původně napsal:

The earlier CD/DVD install media did not print that you must have a steamed account to install and run a game, even. Talk about subversive tactics and illegal activities some of these newborn have no idea about.

The ones that required a Steam account most certainly did have that printed on the packaged. As was pointed out to you many moons ago when you were going all incorrectomondo on the forums the last time. Man, swinging and missing at those pitches like a real champ there today!

Iron Knights původně napsal:

An International Corporation is Subject to and Liable to the Laws of Each and Every Country it operates inside of and ad-hoc policies do not make for Law or Contract.
For those of you who do not understand Breech of Contract, when a business changes the First contract, giving you the options of signing Yes or Loose Property or Incur Damage on the Second - that is breech of contract. How many times has slick valve done that ? You tell me.

And, what has your lawyer said about your supposed issues? Oh, what's that, you haven't gotten lawyer to sue Steam out of existence? Why is that not surprising. Seems like a ton of people on these forums are good at running their mouths, but not much good at doing anything else it seems. And it seems that this has been the case for years, as Steam has dropped support for every OS from Windows 7 all the way back to 98. As has GoG and EGS. And there has not been one lawsuit related to those in all that time. So manufactured outrage is manufactured for the special snowflakes once again.

[lailaamell]

D. Flame původně napsal:

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

Most of these posts are made by ppl who only want win 7 and its basicly win 7 or nothing at all i noticed

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

Steam likely to drop win 10 next year when as microsoft silently force

[lailaamell]

KalCuey původně napsal:

D. Flame původně napsal:

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

yes

to continue to use the convenience of the steam system

you will have to continue to update to a semi-modern os

seeing as how steam continues to support the os long after the company making it

11 should be close to gone by then and 12 well into use

you will then have three generations of worth of data to decide if windows is going to be

something you wish to stay with

11 has about 2 years left at most like its basicly win 10 reskinned and renamed

[Crazy Tiger]

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

D. Flame původně napsal:

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

Steam likely to drop win 10 next year when as microsoft silently force

Not likely. Valve has always supported older operating systems for a few years after Microsoft stopped the support. More likely is 2027-ish for the drop of support.

[SqueakyTweaky]

Haven't read something so ridiculous in a long time what op posted.

[BJWyler]

lailaamell95 původně napsal:

D. Flame původně napsal:

Win10 has already received its last update, and it will have support dropped before long as well. Upgrading to 10 will not solve anything, other than kicking the can down the road. The main problem is Windows 11.

Steam likely to drop win 10 next year when as microsoft silently force

Incorrect. Microsoft has planned Windows 10 Extended Support until 2025. Servicing Channel support will continue until 2029 and 2032 for some iterations. Valve has always supported OSes longer than the Microsoft shelf date. For instance, XP ES ended in 2014, but Valve continued support until 2019.

Since Windows 11 only released in 2021, we can expect some form of support to continue until the late '20's at least, even if Windows 12 supercedes it in popularity. Most likely Valve will drop support for 10 and 11 at the same time, not unlike they did with XP and Vista, so we have a good 8-10 years left before really needing to worry about that. Of course, most of us will have moved on to Windows 15 or Linux by then, so it will only be the few snowflake holdouts doing this all over again in a decade.