steam memory leak conspiracy?

[kingjames488]

does anyone think maybe valve is deliberately not fixing the memory leak issue so people are forced to restart steam every day or 2 forcing them to update steam every time so people can't just sit on a build that isn't garbage?

[peppermint hollows]

And what do they gain exactly from this?

[kingjames488]

引用自 peppermint hollows：

And what do they gain exactly from this?

idk, whatever it is they're gaining from forcing these changes upon everyone...

[metamec]

Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

[peppermint hollows]

引用自 kingjames488：

引用自 peppermint hollows：

And what do they gain exactly from this?

idk, whatever it is they're gaining from forcing these changes upon everyone...

They're a business, actively sabotaging their own client isn't going to bring them anything, it's just going to drive away customers. Sometimes corporations just make poor decisions or release products that are broken or not up to par.

No need for the complex explanations where the simple explanation of shoddy work or incompetence does the job just fine. It's okay to loosen up the tinfoil hat every now and then, blood flow is important.

[kingjames488]

引用自 peppermint hollows：

No need for the complex explanations where the simple explanation of shoddy work or incompetence does the job just fine. It's okay to loosen up the tinfoil hat every now and then, blood flow is important.

oh ya no, the memory leak has been an issue for years now... I'm not saying that they created the problem, just that they don't really care to fix it as it's working in their favour.

[Zarineth]

If it was for years, why people started complaining after the new UI was released? And why "memory leak" is one of the main arguments against it?

[kingjames488]

引用自 Zarineth：

If it was for years, why people started complaining after the new UI was released? And why "memory leak" is one of the main arguments against it?

it got worse after the new UI update, also the update made it so you can't just end the steam web helper process independently of steam(which used to fix the problem) without it replicating it's self making the problem twice as bad.

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 kingjames488：

引用自 peppermint hollows：

No need for the complex explanations where the simple explanation of shoddy work or incompetence does the job just fine. It's okay to loosen up the tinfoil hat every now and then, blood flow is important.

oh ya no, the memory leak has been an issue for years now... I'm not saying that they created the problem, just that they don't really care to fix it as it's working in their favour.

Have you considered that they simply don't know exactly what is causing it, thus making it hard to fix? I mean, there are people reporting memory issues, but also people who don't experience the memory leaks. People reporting it are on different types of systems and operating systems. It's some kind of incompatibility they likely cannot pinpoint.

And how it is working in their favor? The client already updates automatically, so there is no point in creating a problem to get people to update. And having people restart the client merely is an annoyance for the user and not something Valve gains from.

引用自 Zarineth：

If it was for years, why people started complaining after the new UI was released? And why "memory leak" is one of the main arguments against it?

People have been reporting RAM issues since the new library UI in 2019. That's years, yes.

[Zarineth]

引用自 Crazy Tiger：

引用自 Zarineth：

If it was for years, why people started complaining after the new UI was released? And why "memory leak" is one of the main arguments against it?

People have been reporting RAM issues since the new library UI in 2019. That's years, yes.

Oh, alright.

[kingjames488]

引用自 Crazy Tiger：

引用自 kingjames488：

oh ya no, the memory leak has been an issue for years now... I'm not saying that they created the problem, just that they don't really care to fix it as it's working in their favour.

Have you considered that they simply don't know exactly what is causing it, thus making it hard to fix? I mean, there are people reporting memory issues, but also people who don't experience the memory leaks. People reporting it are on different types of systems and operating systems. It's some kind of incompatibility they likely cannot pinpoint.

if they haven't been able to figure it out after several years maybe they need to hire someone who can? that's kinda their issue to worry about and solve... I'm a consumer.

also I'm fairly sure the people claiming not to have a problem with memory leaks either restart their PC often enough that it's not an issue for them or are unaware of it being an issue.

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 kingjames488：

引用自 Crazy Tiger：

Have you considered that they simply don't know exactly what is causing it, thus making it hard to fix? I mean, there are people reporting memory issues, but also people who don't experience the memory leaks. People reporting it are on different types of systems and operating systems. It's some kind of incompatibility they likely cannot pinpoint.

if they haven't been able to figure it out after several years maybe they need to hire someone who can? that's kinda their issue to worry about and solve... I'm a consumer.

also I'm fairly sure the people claiming not to have a problem with memory leaks either restart their PC often enough that it's not an issue for them or are unaware of it being an issue.

The same reason some bugs in games are hard to catch. It's not black & white, often very hard to pinpoint and even when pinpointed, fixing things without breaking something else isn't easy. Doesn't always have to do with skill either. This is software we're talking about, not replacing a handle on a cabinet.
Let's just hope they do manage to pinpoint it.

I don't experience memory leaks on Steam, no. Even after days of running Steam, it still is in the 500-700MB bracket for RAM usage for me. Same on the devices my kids have. Also same for a bunch of Steam friends I have. Other Steam friends do have RAM usage in the GB, they do run into the issue.

There are issues with memory leaks, but it doesn't affect everyone. If you don't want to believe that, that's fine. Reality is different from whatever narrative you want to push.

[metamec]

It's no surprise to me that (i) an increasingly complex application that is (ii) in a constant state of evolution and (iii) developed in C++ would have frequent issues with memory leaks.

The development of the C++ client[oldschool.runescape.wiki] even seems to sync with the timeline of memory leak reports since 2019 (when presumably it was first rolled out on the beta channel).

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 metamec：

It's no surprise to me that (i) an increasingly complex application that is (ii) in a constant state of evolution and (iii) developed in C++ would have frequent issues with memory leaks.

The development of the C++ client[oldschool.runescape.wiki] even seems to sync with the timeline of memory leak reports since 2019 (when presumably it was first rolled out on the beta channel).

That has nothing to do with Steam itself. That "Steam client" referenced there is just the Steam version of Old School Runescape, not the actual Steam launcher.

[Tito Shivan]

Always consider Hanlon's razor when dealing with software bugs.

[Crazy Tiger]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Always consider Hanlon's razor when dealing with software bugs.

Especially with Chromium and memory leaks.