"JUST UPGRADE" - except Windows 8 and beyond do not support firewire.
Imagine you bought an expensive device that runs on firewire - for example a high end audio interface. If you "just upgrade" to windows 8 or beyond, you will come into problems with firewire....hell Windows 11 does not even support firewire........ because Microsoft has basically become the laziest most contemptful software company under the sun. Too lazy and pathetic to kick out a basic hardware driver

Because its all too hard for steam to just greenlight the DRM checks to let people play the games on the software and hardware they originally bought it on, you're now FORCED to run multiple operating systems and or buy new hardware ....
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Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:
Komarimaru původně napsal:
I just think it odd to even bring it up, it died in 2013, before Windows 10 even came out.
What i find odd, i never heard of it, and found solutions in minutes.
I mean, that's par for the course for every "reason" upgrade deniers have spouted/parroted so far.
Azure Fang původně napsal:
Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:
What i find odd, i never heard of it, and found solutions in minutes.
I mean, that's par for the course for every "reason" upgrade deniers have spouted/parroted so far.
Ya, pretty much this as well. Of course, this is coming from someone(The OP) with multiple bans on record due to their rude posting and conspiracy theories.
C²C^Guyver |NZB| původně napsal:
Azure Fang původně napsal:
Windows 7 technically didn't even support Firewire, as the rewritten bus driver was about as broken as non-integrated Bluetooth support has been since, well, Windows 7. To get Firewire to work on Win7, you need to download community-customized drivers or rewrite them yourself.

Quit grasping.
None of their reasonings hold water because some of them even after naming all the reasons why they can't upgrade to Windows 10 or 11, they finally come out and say that the reason is, is they just don't want too.
I know. I just like having a refutation in place.
So, op, what is your opinion about win 11 supporting firewire?
Azure Fang původně napsal:
Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:
What i find odd, i never heard of it, and found solutions in minutes.
I mean, that's par for the course for every "reason" upgrade deniers have spouted/parroted so far.


"Windows 10/11 does not support my IDE 3.5 inch disk drive and my 1993 shareware copy of DOOM!
Checkmate VALVE shills!"

/s
Naposledy upravil Ogami; 28. čvc. 2023 v 3.54
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We live in the age of peak anti-consumerism.
Except we don't.
I have games and software on cassette tape. I have games and software on 5.25" and 3.5" floppies. I have software and files on DCC tapes. I have to make sure any new system I order comes with an optical drive included.

It's not anti-consumer. It's progress. Sometimes those who try to cling to the old ways get left behind. But as they are more of a detriment by holding society back, it's not that much of a loss.
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hell Windows 11 does not even support firewire

Firewire works on Windows 11 as you can use the built in one or the Legacy IEEE 1394 driver for devices that do not have an updated driver from the hardware provider.

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Because its all too hard for steam to just greenlight the DRM checks to let people play the games on the software and hardware they originally bought it on, you're now FORCED to run multiple operating systems and or buy new hardware ....

Speaking as someone who originally installed Windows 10 x64 over Windows 7 x64 install on a system with a Phenom II 955 Black Edition, Radeon HD5870, 8GB Ram and HDD's only, i can state every game from the Win 7 era ran on that PC with zero issues.
Naposledy upravil Nx Machina; 29. čvc. 2023 v 6.02
eram 28. čvc. 2023 v 4.50 
duel boot win7 and win10/11
Naposledy upravil eram; 28. čvc. 2023 v 4.50
So like did you even bother to troubleshoot shoot the issue? Or did you like not even bother to do anything, and assume everything to do it for you?

Also I call BS because windows 8 and above supports FireWire, so yes you're full of it making up bad claim.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:
So like did you even bother to troubleshoot shoot the issue? Or did you like not even bother to do anything, and assume everything to do it for you?

Also I call BS because windows 8 and above supports FireWire, so yes you're full of it making up bad claim.
Nah, it's just an axe to grind. Still the aftermath of the COH3 replay feature debacle. They're just in the kicking and screaming at everything phase now.
Crazy Tiger původně napsal:
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 původně napsal:
So like did you even bother to troubleshoot shoot the issue? Or did you like not even bother to do anything, and assume everything to do it for you?

Also I call BS because windows 8 and above supports FireWire, so yes you're full of it making up bad claim.
Nah, it's just an axe to grind. Still the aftermath of the COH3 replay feature debacle. They're just in the kicking and screaming at everything phase now.
Ah geez, good to know thanks 👍.
Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:
But is there even this problem?
There are cards, there are drivers. So what is the problem?
Hello

Sorry i wasn't talking about comp, or windows but more generally by what happen in irl:
- thinking we're living in a world where everything in infinite...but it's not the place to talk about that , real problems are out of the equate of surch bs forum...
Naposledy upravil bidulless; 28. čvc. 2023 v 7.16
Muppet among Puppets původně napsal:
feytharn původně napsal:
Windows 11 supports firewire 1394, Win 10 usually works well with the legacy drivers.
In win 11 you should not use the legacy drivers, it comes with own drivers.
The built-in IEEE 1394 drivers in recent Windows versions have critical protections against security exploits where one can dump the memory of a victim's computer by plugging in a malicious device.

Ogami původně napsal:
Azure Fang původně napsal:
I mean, that's par for the course for every "reason" upgrade deniers have spouted/parroted so far.


"Windows 10/11 does not support my IDE 3.5 inch disk drive and my 1993 shareware copy of DOOM!
Checkmate VALVE shills!"

/s
Crazy enough I have a PCIe IDE adapter and it works fine on built-in drivers.
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Imagine you bought an expensive device that runs on firewire - for example a high end audio interface. If you "just upgrade" to windows 8 or beyond, you will come into problems with firewire....hell Windows 11 does not even support firewire........ because Microsoft has basically become the laziest most contemptful software company under the sun. Too lazy and pathetic to kick out a basic hardware driver

Because its all too hard for steam to just greenlight the DRM checks to let people play the games on the software and hardware they originally bought it on, you're now FORCED to run multiple operating systems and or buy new hardware ....
Just get a firewire to usb adapter.
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