Justice 11 JUL 2023 a las 3:04 p. m.
Watch this video if you still think Old OS system support doesn't matter
It's also covers game ownership
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64mA97ZPt1Y

(edit: some missunderstood the title, it meant to actually care about system support)
Última edición por Justice; 12 JUL 2023 a las 6:39 a. m.
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ShadowShifterMarlith 11 JUL 2023 a las 7:46 p. m. 
In the older days... Microsoft & all these Gaming Companies didn't
drop support for your Games, you just simply forgot about them,
left them in the past, & moved forwards with new Windows, & following
with new Games, because they were simply getting better.

Today, you don't wanna move forward, because you don't like
the new direction things are going in, this in turn pushes you
to dislike newer Games, which now your fighting to save your
older Games, thus pushing you to wanna stay on older Windows.

Things are changed & different today then they were back then.

The only question is?

Who is in Control, are you, or the Corporates?
What are you gonna do about it?

If you had a cell phone, i'd tell you your totally screwed,
but you don't, you have a Computer, & computers always
use to put you in Control. Now more then ever, do you
still have that same Control?

Find out in the next Episode of the Future came along & took my Steam away.
Cuchillo_Baishan 12 JUL 2023 a las 2:39 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Paratech2008:
You don't own games. Nintendo dropped support for the Wii, my Wii broke. All my digital games died with that Wii.

My 3DS XL was wearing out. My digital games die with it.

No, that is FALSE.

Back in the day I purchased a good amount of games, legacy SNES & NES titles for the Virtual Console, on that Wii Shop, and still can play them to this day.

The only thing they dropped are the online services.

So there you have it, even Nintendo is better than Valve at discontinuing support for purchased games on a platform.
Última edición por Cuchillo_Baishan; 12 JUL 2023 a las 2:45 a. m.
Justice 12 JUL 2023 a las 6:05 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
In the older days... Microsoft & all these Gaming Companies didn't
drop support for your Games, you just simply forgot about them,
left them in the past, & moved forwards with new Windows, & following
with new Games, because they were simply getting better.

Today, you don't wanna move forward, because you don't like
the new direction things are going in, this in turn pushes you
to dislike newer Games, which now your fighting to save your
older Games, thus pushing you to wanna stay on older Windows.

Things are changed & different today then they were back then.

The only question is?

Who is in Control, are you, or the Corporates?
What are you gonna do about it?

If you had a cell phone, i'd tell you your totally screwed,
but you don't, you have a Computer, & computers always
use to put you in Control. Now more then ever, do you
still have that same Control?

Find out in the next Episode of the Future came along & took my Steam away.
But as times go on, companies like Microsoft keep striping functionality and user control from pc devices with each new update and new OS. From windows 7 to 10 to 11. They want make you have as much control for pc as phone users.
Start_Running 12 JUL 2023 a las 6:29 a. m. 
OP You cleasrly wern't around when Microsoft killed DOS.
Justice 12 JUL 2023 a las 6:37 a. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
OP You cleasrly wern't around when Microsoft killed DOS.
Maybe you missunderstood the title? It meant to actually care about system support.
Komarimaru 12 JUL 2023 a las 6:43 a. m. 
I'm actually disappointed Louis even made a video without all the facts, and told them as much. They are great with hardware, their recommendations on what to get and use for my own repair station helping me quite a bit.

But it's fairly obvious they didn't research any first, and themselves suffer with software if they couldn't use Windows 10 with their claim of 45 second delays etc.
ShadowShifterMarlith 13 JUL 2023 a las 1:06 p. m. 
It's much worst then the video describles.

1st.) You have the steam Interface being changed that people don't like.
2nd.) You have steam deck which is starting to make it so
that you pay for steam instead of using steam for Free.

Very Anti-Freedom

3rd.) Steam OS is all about playing older styled type games, but on an always On-Line
market, even if it's single player. So now not only can you not play big budget games
anymore like shadow of mordor for instance? The games are censored, they have
color distortions, they can't run Free anymore, the games have problems, & bugs wrong
with them. Compared to older games, they don't compare at all.

Finally, I wanted to say that I saw this ahead of time, I knew all this was going to happen,
& that is why I chose to rip my eathernet cable out of the wall back before all this started
happening. I did it right at the best time. I get to save my library of Games, & I get to
continue to play them for as long as I can keep it up for.

Then there is also the fact that there are very salty kind of people invading steam,
which report you, & ban you for the dummest of things, which the Video also describes.

He does not play Games anymore?

I'm starting to think & get the feeling that is the point, they are pushing you to
want to stop playing games from now on, & change what you are doing. They
want to push you to a breaking point where you'll snap & say no more. Eventually
that will be the internet it's self, you'll snap, & say no more Internet.

I Agree with everything the Video has to say.
Boblin the Goblin 13 JUL 2023 a las 1:11 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
It's much worst then the video describles.

1st.) You have the steam Interface being changed that people don't like.

So? There will always be those who don't want UI changes. It is inevitable

Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
2nd.) You have steam deck which is starting to make it so
that you pay for steam instead of using steam for Free.

This is 100% false.

Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
Very Anti-Freedom

3rd.) Steam OS is all about playing older styled type games, but on an always On-Line
market, even if it's single player. So now not only can you not play big budget games
anymore like shadow of mordor for instance? The games are censored, they have
color distortions, they can't run Free anymore, the games have problems, & bugs wrong
with them. Compared to older games, they don't compare at all.

You can literally use the Deck offline along with any game that doesn't require internet. You are literally lying about what the Deck does.


Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
Finally, I wanted to say that I saw this ahead of time, I knew all this was going to happen,
& that is why I chose to rip my eathernet cable out of the wall back before all this started
happening. I did it right at the best time. I get to save my library of Games, & I get to
continue to play them for as long as I can keep it up for.

Then there is also the fact that there are very salty kind of people invading steam,
which report you, & ban you for the dummest of things, which the Video also describes.

You must have not done a good job removing your Ethernet cord if you're still posting. You bans(on your main account) is rightfully deserved.

Publicado originalmente por ShadowShifterMarlith:
He does not play Games anymore?

I'm starting to think & get the feeling that is the point, they are pushing you to
want to stop playing games from now on, & change what you are doing. They
want to push you to a breaking point where you'll snap & say no more. Eventually
that will be the internet it's self, you'll snap, & say no more Internet.

I Agree with everything the Video has to say.


Which is why you're on an alt after your main is perma-banned? You don't even believe the stuff you're saying.
ShadowShifterMarlith 13 JUL 2023 a las 1:11 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Knightspace:
Wait wait, you use Steam, this garbage, glorified DRM piece of ♥♥♥♥, yet you thought you had control over the things you paid money for? On a platform that FORCES updates on your ass?

What?



Yes, but I always knew this day would come, & that is why I prepared myself
for that, & have chosen how I was going to use the platform in the future.

Spend nothing & take myself offline before valve makes it so we can't play offline anymore.

Find some way to protect myself from the future of steam for as long as I can.
1 of the reasons is, don't buy everything all in one place.
Start_Running 13 JUL 2023 a las 9:48 p. m. 
What's the point of a launcher that can't communicate with the verification server due to outdated protocols.
See the problem?
Jimmy Percs 13 JUL 2023 a las 10:03 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
What's the point of a launcher that can't communicate with the verification server due to outdated protocols.
See the problem?
They should stop using a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ protocol (google chromium) then.
nullable 13 JUL 2023 a las 10:37 p. m. 
Publicado originalmente por GOFF SZN:
Publicado originalmente por Start_Running:
What's the point of a launcher that can't communicate with the verification server due to outdated protocols.
See the problem?
They should stop using a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ protocol (google chromium) then.

Google chromium is not a protocol. Windows 7 won’t support anything above TLS 1.2, and we’re not gonna use TLS 1.2 forever. Valve has no control over web standards and protocols.

Lots of businesses are dropping Windows 7 support, the whole industry is in the process of doing it. Imagining it’s just Valve, or not using Chromium will solve that is uninformed and naive.
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Master.Constructor 20 JUL 2023 a las 6:35 a. m. 
Very thankful that Louis Rossmann did this. He has insight and experience in the industry that few of us have and he will not shy away from sharing his thoughts. Great stuff.
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