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[Snake with Guns]

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[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

That wasn't the reason. You can tell because those posts are still up.

In fact, it was, and yes the post still up. Why would that happen with our elite moderation team?

In fact, it happens most often don't it, even with OPs who have been banned, yet their posts still up.

Anyhow, that's off topic.

STOP shutting seniors, fixed income, working class folks and poor people OUT their games, Mr Newell

If that were the reason for the ban, the post would've been deleted......Gabe isn't doing a thing to you.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por xBCxRangers:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

That wasn't the reason. You can tell because those posts are still up.

In fact, it was, and yes the post still up. Why would that happen with our elite moderation team?

In fact, it happens most often don't it, even with OPs who have been banned, yet their posts still up.

Anyhow, that's off topic.

STOP shutting seniors, fixed income, working class folks and poor people OUT their games, Mr Newell

It telling people to file with the FTC was the reason, the other posts you have saying the same would've been deleted.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

you would think that Consumer Law Departments would put out a general
statement if they were being inundated with complaints about steam stopping
support of a unsupported OS....

has anyone presented a reply from a CLD regarding this issue....

an actual reply to questions asked...
i have seen people try to navigate consumer laws...
but no real response from a real person that actually works there...

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por bidulless:

Hello

If i wanted to evade security i would choose tor or using vpn but it's not the case.Do not mix different things ...

If you use a VPN:

You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#3

Valve doesn't care about regular VPN use. They also don't use IP for regional location for your account.

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

If you use a VPN:

You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/#3

Valve doesn't care about regular VPN use. They also don't use IP for regional location for your account.

"or for any other purpose."

They care or it wouldn't still be part of the SSA.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Valve doesn't care about regular VPN use. They also don't use IP for regional location for your account.

"or for any other purpose."

They care or it wouldn't still be part of the SSA.

They don't.

I know from experience. As long as you aren't attempting to bypass regional restrictions, they do not care.

[Jamebonds1]

Beware of context. It means you shall not use VPN for the purpose of purchasing restricted content based on geographical, i.e. if one game limited to Japan and you bought it in the USA with IP proxying, then you breached the agreement. So, C²C^Guyver is correct.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Beware of context. It means you shall not use VPN for the purpose of purchasing restricted content based on geographical, i.e. if one game limited to Japan and you bought it in the USA with IP proxying, then you breached the agreement. So, C²C^Guyver is correct.

Except he literally is saying general VPN use will be met with punishment.

I'm the one that said they only care if you use it to bypass regional restrictions.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Beware of context. It means you shall not use VPN for the purpose of purchasing restricted content based on geographical, i.e. if one game limited to Japan and you bought it in the USA with IP proxying, then you breached the agreement. So, C²C^Guyver is correct.

Except he literally is saying general VPN use will be met with punishment.

I'm the one that said they only care if you use it to bypass regional restrictions.

No, it does not appears to be.

This is what quote
"You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account."

Mean in last post.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Except he literally is saying general VPN use will be met with punishment.

I'm the one that said they only care if you use it to bypass regional restrictions.

No, it does not appears to be.

This is what quote
"You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account."

Mean in last post.

I know.

Valve doesn't care about general use of a VPN. They only care if it's used to circumvent regional restrictions.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

No, it does not appears to be.

This is what quote
"You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account."

Mean in last post.

I know.

Valve doesn't care about general use of a VPN. They only care if it's used to circumvent regional restrictions.

He does not said about general use of a VPN either.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

No, it does not appears to be.

This is what quote
"You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account."

Mean in last post.

I know.

Valve doesn't care about general use of a VPN. They only care if it's used to circumvent regional restrictions.

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Valve doesn't care about regular VPN use. They also don't use IP for regional location for your account.

"or for any other purpose."

They care or it wouldn't still be part of the SSA.

Literally him talking about general use

[C²C^Guyver |NZB|]

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

I know.

Valve doesn't care about general use of a VPN. They only care if it's used to circumvent regional restrictions.

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

"or for any other purpose."

They care or it wouldn't still be part of the SSA.

Literally him talking about general use

Then explain it. You say that they don't care, but the SSA says for any other purpose.

Sounds like they care to me. You're acting as if I just put that part in there and it is in the SSA.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por C²C^Guyver |NZB|:

Publicado originalmente por SlowMango:

Literally him talking about general use

Then explain it. You say that they don't care, but the SSA says for any other purpose.

Sounds like they care to me. You're acting as if I just put that part in there and it is in the SSA.

I know multiple people who are constantly on a VPN while connected to Steam and have been for years.

Unless you are trying to bypass restrictions, they don't care.

[Chika Ogiue]

While mention of VPNs may be in the SSA, Valve truly don't care except in rare circumstances. Of course, they cared when VPNs could be used to aid credit card fraud, etc., but Valve closed that loophole years ago. IP address no longer means anything when it comes to purchasing on an existing account.

Now, in terms of other uses for VPNs, Valve only banned (temporarily) in specific cases. The most notable being when Borderlands first released. It was a staggered release, meaning it unlocked in certain countries up to half a day before others. People flocked to the forums at that time and posted about how VPNs could be used to unlock the game early. Valve didn't like how public people were being in flaunting that loophole, and thus banned the accounts posting it. And you could argue that it wasn't so much the VPN use that got those accounts banned, than the manner in which people flooded the forums.

But other than that, Valve truly don't care. And in my personal experience, even recommended VPN usage to me due to a certain edge case problem I was experiencing at the time (back in the 2010s).