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How is this thread still alive? Masterful bait OP, enjoy your Apex Legends on W11

[Zefar]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

i never said that Google ads were in the microsoft store i SPECIFICALLY mentioned downloading off the internet. i just said that INSTEAD of having a poorly coded and unusable store app, linux actually has a decent, fast and easy way to install things in one click. you would know and understand immediately if you used it. you know, i had used Gamepass for a month. adn i was in the middle of downloading games. NOTHING i tried could fix the problem that ensued in the middle of downloading Fallout 4. in the end i was forced to COMPLETELY REINSTALL my OS because no matter WHAT i tried to do it locked up my Minecraft Launcher and forced me into the "games services" page despite everything being PERFECTLY FINE. it is BROKEN and it is CRAP. nobody should be defending this unrelaible, buggy and useless piece of ♥♥♥♥, don't believe me? here is the support post i followed:
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/all/redirecting-to-the-gaming-services-page-on-store/72620bde-e6e4-483b-857f-bdecf7188e52

Xbox Client is not the Microsoft store. Xbox client is easily the worst gaming client to date. Yes I've had bugs with it too but while it directed you to the microsoft store and a certain app on it, the top review told me the right one and after that it was solved.
It's been some time since I last had issues with Xbox client though.

Again, you're just stating that it's horrible and doesn't work and claim Linux has a fast and easy way when the Microsoft store has the exact same feature.
Try any of the other apps on the Microsoft store page.

You brought up Google ads in a way that hinted that it was done through the microsoft store because we where talking about it.
If it wasn't through the microsoft store why would you bring it up? Also who clicks on ads to download programs?
You could do the same on Linux while clicking on ads and download programs that way. Does that make linux bad? No, it's the users fault for doing it. Also Google for letting it happen.

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

yeah out of the tens of thousands of games that exist on the steam store only 400 of them don't run. well, they can perfectly fine they just don't have Anticheats on linux enabled. like for example. R6S will work perfectly fine. it just won't let you play online because the anticheats int that specific game are not supporting linux. if you can't get your brain behind how good that is then you have no idea what you are talking about. because this is an OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE STACK running something designed for an Closed source operating system. you should be amazed this even exists at all. let alone works so well. as for addressing the argument that windows 11 works better? no it doesn't. some games just don't work at all with either 10 or 11. take Bully: Scholarship edition. with versions newer than 8.1 it will crash often, it needs to be patched to run without crashing. so no Windows isn't your ultimate comeback either.

Steam Deck runs proton and it has issues with a lot of games.
So I'm gonna take that claim with a bundle of salt.

R6S anti cheat problem is still a problem. If I where to play that game it would be for the online part. Kind of a big issue then isn't it?
There is also this where the more secure features that the Anti Cheat needs are there to reduce the amount of cheats that can be used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek
It's brought up in that video.


Bully not working on win11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kr-hhL4Z2Q
Guess it does.
Linux users love to claim that you might have to do a bit extra to get things to work but when that is the same deal on Win11 on some rare game it's suddenly not worth it anymore.

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

The majority of Programs work on Linux, for those that don't, there are Alternatives that are comparable to better. controllers work JUST FINE on linux. i don't know what kind of outdated linux gaming video you are using to justify not using linux. but it is clearly not in line with the state of linux gaming in modern day, (also isn't it blatantly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obvious controllers work anyway? DECK exists you know) plus you never actually stated any reasons you would have NOT to switch to linux all you've said is Basically "i've had windows ever since X, and i have no idea what i'm missing out on by not using linux. i will never use linux" which is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ take and the complete wrong way to go about Linux. or any kind of choice for that matter. you need to realise your bias, and rectify it immediately. it is pathetic and it only makes your points worse.

The gamepad issue was shown in LinusTechTips Linux challenge video and even at the time it should have been plug and play but it wasn't that easy. Even through Steam. He did manage to get it working.

Steam deck needs to be optimized for almost every game out there. I see topics every now and then about "Please add support for Steam Deck". Some games lost support I believe too. Monster hunter world might have lost it due to the drm.

I have stated why I wouldn't be using Linux before. It can't run everything. It has issues.
It will have issues as time goes on.

I'm not missing out on anything by not using Linux. Other than a lot of extra work the moment something goes wrong. Which mind you will most likely happen far more on Linux than on Windows 11.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡󠀡 の投稿を引用：

How is this thread still alive? Masterful bait OP, enjoy your Apex Legends on W11

its only because the windows shills hang out here and argue any dumb reason against any valid linux to replace a dated and crappy OS

[BionicSeaSerpent]

Zefar の投稿を引用：

Xbox Client is not the Microsoft store. Xbox client is easily the worst gaming client to date. Yes I've had bugs with it too but while it directed you to the microsoft store and a certain app on it, the top review told me the right one and after that it was solved.
It's been some time since I last had issues with Xbox client though.

Again, you're just stating that it's horrible and doesn't work and claim Linux has a fast and easy way when the Microsoft store has the exact same feature.
Try any of the other apps on the Microsoft store page.

You brought up Google ads in a way that hinted that it was done through the microsoft store because we where talking about it.
If it wasn't through the microsoft store why would you bring it up? Also who clicks on ads to download programs?
You could do the same on Linux while clicking on ads and download programs that way. Does that make linux bad? No, it's the users fault for doing it. Also Google for letting it happen.


Steam Deck runs proton and it has issues with a lot of games.
So I'm gonna take that claim with a bundle of salt.

R6S anti cheat problem is still a problem. If I where to play that game it would be for the online part. Kind of a big issue then isn't it?
There is also this where the more secure features that the Anti Cheat needs are there to reduce the amount of cheats that can be used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek
It's brought up in that video.


Bully not working on win11?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kr-hhL4Z2Q
Guess it does.
Linux users love to claim that you might have to do a bit extra to get things to work but when that is the same deal on Win11 on some rare game it's suddenly not worth it anymore.



The gamepad issue was shown in LinusTechTips Linux challenge video and even at the time it should have been plug and play but it wasn't that easy. Even through Steam. He did manage to get it working.

Steam deck needs to be optimized for almost every game out there. I see topics every now and then about "Please add support for Steam Deck". Some games lost support I believe too. Monster hunter world might have lost it due to the drm.

I have stated why I wouldn't be using Linux before. It can't run everything. It has issues.
It will have issues as time goes on.

I'm not missing out on anything by not using Linux. Other than a lot of extra work the moment something goes wrong. Which mind you will most likely happen far more on Linux than on Windows 11.

the Xbox client uses the MS store to download games, this is common knowledge that you clearly don't understand

i never said it was the MS Store with the ads, and i SPECIFICLLY SPECIFIED that i was talking about downloading off the internet there only. also. Googles "Ads" show up at the TOP of the page for search results and look JUST like a regular link. so its not "dumb people" its GOOGLE being a piece of ass. and putting their customers at risk by accepting that money

Steam deck Runs Proton. which makes 99.8-9% of the tested library playable on linux. as rated by the community, who not only runs on deck, but also PCs of every kind. the argument for games not running is NOT as valid as you think it is. and the linux challenge you are talking about is already 2 years old. a lot has changed over time. so use actual up to date information or be ignored completely. or hell. made fun of. which you already have. you can listen to your biased crap or you can listen to facts. (Spoiler alert. the facts speak for themselves, you're wrong about software support)

steam deck does not need to be OPTIMISED for games to run. you are again making up ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to justify shilling windows. STOP IT.

lastly. you have not provided an informed, solid opinion on ANY form of linux at all, you have a hard MS bias period. you NEED to educate yourself, so i'd suggest you check your library with ProtonDB, BOOT UP a copy of LMDE with the XFCE Desktop and actually try Linux, THEN form your opinion. it is disgusting you are approaching the topic of gaming on linux with poorly outdated information and are set in your uneducated way. please do better next time

[KalGimpa]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡 󠀡󠀡󠀡 の投稿を引用：

How is this thread still alive? Masterful bait OP, enjoy your Apex Legends on W11

its only because the windows shills hang out here and argue any dumb reason against any valid linux to replace a dated and crappy OS

partner

i only run linux and i want to argue with you

your tone and attitude, and the name calling in between, are just not helping

of course people are biased

ms has been the go to for decades

it is as much my fault as anyone else, but it was just that much easier to use

with so many companies still using it, it is still easier for moist

linux has come leaps and bounds from where it was

but it is still a learning curve

it is till a lot of distro's to choose from,

each with their own repository of programs

there are mistakes that can be made that you would not make on windows

i would love for everyone to try linux

but in the long run,

it may be easier for some to just upgrade like they have since win 95

[BionicSeaSerpent]

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

its only because the windows shills hang out here and argue any dumb reason against any valid linux to replace a dated and crappy OS

partner

i only run linux and i want to argue with you

your tone and attitude, and the name calling in between, are just not helping

of course people are biased

ms has been the go to for decades

it is as much my fault as anyone else, but it was just that much easier to use

with so many companies still using it, it is still easier for moist

linux has come leaps and bounds from where it was

but it is still a learning curve

it is till a lot of distro's to choose from,

each with their own repository of programs

there are mistakes that can be made that you would not make on windows

i would love for everyone to try linux

but in the long run,

it may be easier for some to just upgrade like they have since win 95

There is hardly a learning curve for the majority, the majority who ONLY EVER NEED A WEB BROWSER. thats what ChromeOS is, linux for those who only ever need a web browser

[KalGimpa]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

partner

i only run linux and i want to argue with you

your tone and attitude, and the name calling in between, are just not helping

of course people are biased

ms has been the go to for decades

it is as much my fault as anyone else, but it was just that much easier to use

with so many companies still using it, it is still easier for moist

linux has come leaps and bounds from where it was

but it is still a learning curve

it is till a lot of distro's to choose from,

each with their own repository of programs

there are mistakes that can be made that you would not make on windows

i would love for everyone to try linux

but in the long run,

it may be easier for some to just upgrade like they have since win 95

There is hardly a learning curve for the majority, the majority who ONLY EVER NEED A WEB BROWSER. thats what ChromeOS is, linux for those who only ever need a web browser

there is little learning curve if they have someone in their family, or a friend

that already knows that is much easier now and which distro to recommend

that is not the majority

the majority would have to find that out for themselves

that is what i had to do

that involved research and and a crap ton demoing distros

my poor little dongles have been overwritten so many times

i am amazed they still work so well

it is time consuming (and fun if you like that sort of thing. i did)

anyways

you are not going to get anyone to use linux by calling them shills and the like

[BionicSeaSerpent]

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

There is hardly a learning curve for the majority, the majority who ONLY EVER NEED A WEB BROWSER. thats what ChromeOS is, linux for those who only ever need a web browser

there is little learning curve if they have someone in their family, or a friend

that already knows that is much easier now and which distro to recommend

that is not the majority

the majority would have to find that out for themselves

that is what i had to do

that involved research and and a crap ton demoing distros

my poor little dongles have been overwritten so many times

i am amazed they still work so well

it is time consuming (and fun if you like that sort of thing. i did)

anyways

you are not going to get anyone to use linux by calling them shills and the like

regardless of if they know it or not. they are shilling Windows. that's the truth. sticking up for something that's bad because "you like it" and not being able to see the good and bad of it is shilling. purposefully using outdated information is ALSO part of shilling, or in their case, exercising a Bias they do not know about. which includes the shilling. i already gave them a Distro and Desktop to try. and if they tried it they would find it enjoyable. and very familiar. if they ddin't? they have proven themselves a shill.

[KalGimpa]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

there is little learning curve if they have someone in their family, or a friend

that already knows that is much easier now and which distro to recommend

that is not the majority

the majority would have to find that out for themselves

that is what i had to do

that involved research and and a crap ton demoing distros

my poor little dongles have been overwritten so many times

i am amazed they still work so well

it is time consuming (and fun if you like that sort of thing. i did)

anyways

you are not going to get anyone to use linux by calling them shills and the like

regardless of if they know it or not. they are shilling Windows. that's the truth. sticking up for something that's bad because "you like it" and not being able to see the good and bad of it is shilling. purposefully using outdated information is ALSO part of shilling, or in their case, exercising a Bias they do not know about. which includes the shilling. i already gave them a Distro and Desktop to try. and if they tried it they would find it enjoyable. and very familiar. if they ddin't? they have proven themselves a shill.

you keep saying bad

it is not bad

it is just not linux

as for your recommendation, or mine

we are randos off the internet

we are not family or friend

anything we say must be taken with that grain of salt

anyone that is interested in linux should take the time to feel out whcih one is the right one for them

if they are just going to follow what others say

they might as well stay with windows

[Heckin' computer]

Win Cultists at least have the mojo to promote that poo relentlessly. Like, don't be a Debbie Downer about Tux, Kal. Ain't cool. The Penguin is sexy and has great versatility to the point IF it came pre-installed, especially with a super-afforable RedHat-like support subscription option, esp. with like a free First Year, folx'd go with it and maintain it.

Plus AI is making Linux a breeze to self-service. So let's let the Penguin shine

[KalGimpa]

Heckin' computer の投稿を引用：

Win Cultists at least have the mojo to promote that poo relentlessly. Like, don't be a Debbie Downer about Tux, Kal. Ain't cool. The Penguin is sexy and has great versatility to the point IF it came pre-installed, especially with a super-afforable RedHat-like support subscription option, esp. with like a free First Year, folx'd go with it and maintain it.

Plus AI is making Linux a breeze to self-service. So let's let the Penguin shine

you are misreading things a bit

i only run linux

love it

i was just talking to bionic about the way they are coming at people that prefer windows

[BionicSeaSerpent]

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

Heckin' computer の投稿を引用：

Win Cultists at least have the mojo to promote that poo relentlessly. Like, don't be a Debbie Downer about Tux, Kal. Ain't cool. The Penguin is sexy and has great versatility to the point IF it came pre-installed, especially with a super-afforable RedHat-like support subscription option, esp. with like a free First Year, folx'd go with it and maintain it.

Plus AI is making Linux a breeze to self-service. So let's let the Penguin shine

you are misreading things a bit

i only run linux

love it

i was just talking to bionic about the way they are coming at people that prefer windows

they shill. not "prefer" they have no spoken a WORD about every trying linux. ever.

[Sasori Kigaru]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

KalCuey の投稿を引用：

you are misreading things a bit

i only run linux

love it

i was just talking to bionic about the way they are coming at people that prefer windows

they shill. not "prefer" they have no spoken a WORD about every trying linux. ever.

Shilling isn't accurate here, buying windows and preferring/suggesting that OS over one they aren't familiar with isn't shilling. Its preference based off personal experience. For example, I suggest windows to people over Linux because its user friendly to the point I could get my grandmother to set it up with minimal help. (rest her soul)

Edit: I was incorrect about shilling requiring being paid, while that is a large part in some definitions it can also be done for more shady reasons such as promoting a shady/failing business you have vested interest in. Still not accurate though for what I've seen in these discussions.

[BionicSeaSerpent]

Sasori Kigaru の投稿を引用：

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

they shill. not "prefer" they have no spoken a WORD about every trying linux. ever.

Shilling requires being paid, buying windows and preferring/suggesting that OS over one they aren't familiar with isn't shilling. Its preference based off personal experience. Plus you've no way to look into their bank account, no way to see if they've been "paid to shill". If you just assume it then "anyone" could be "shilling". Even you.

you don't need to be paid to shill what are you on?

[Sasori Kigaru]

BionicSeaSerpent の投稿を引用：

Sasori Kigaru の投稿を引用：

Shilling requires being paid, buying windows and preferring/suggesting that OS over one they aren't familiar with isn't shilling. Its preference based off personal experience. Plus you've no way to look into their bank account, no way to see if they've been "paid to shill". If you just assume it then "anyone" could be "shilling". Even you.

you don't need to be paid to shill what are you on?

Currently I'm on steam, technically youtube as well occasionally watching videos.

I will admit though, you are right. The definition I was familiar with was the one about it being something you are paid to do, so I've edited my post to fix that mistake and I thank you for pointing it out. My point though, albeit edited now as shown below, still stands.

Sasori Kigaru の投稿を引用：

Shilling isn't accurate here, buying windows and preferring/suggesting that OS over one they aren't familiar with isn't shilling. Its preference based off personal experience. For example, I suggest windows to people over Linux because its user friendly to the point I could get my grandmother to set it up with minimal help. (rest her soul)

Edit: I was incorrect about shilling requiring being paid, while that is a large part in some definitions it can also be done for more shady reasons such as promoting a shady/failing business you have vested interest in. Still not accurate though for what I've seen in these discussions.

Also have seen a LOT of people throw the word "Shill" around when trying to discredit the opinion of someone they don't like which kind of muddies the word in my opinion.