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ShadowShifterMarlith (禁止済) 2023年7月1日 12時43分
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GOG Is Looking Better Then Steam Every Day!
Now Convince Me I'm Wrong?


The New GOG is allowing us to Customize it however we want
The New Steam does not allow Customization at all

The New GOG is adding Features to GOG
The New Steam is taking away Features from Steam

The New GOG is supporting Communications with other Platforms such as PlayStation
The New Steam does not

GOG is DRM Free
Steam is not DRM Free

GOG is not in the Privacy Theft Services
Steam says why we collect your Data, Why we Spy on you
Steam does Privacy Theft

GOG has tons of Games
Steam has tons of Games

GOG is supporting their Fans
Steam is angering their Fans



I've never used GOG before, but starting to think it might be better then Steam.
最近の変更はShadowShifterMarlithが行いました; 2023年7月1日 12時49分
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ShadowShifterMarlith (禁止済) 2023年7月2日 17時00分 
I've tried GOG Galaxy 2.0 Today:

GOG is too Old School to Compete with STEAM,
however they do still support Games like Cyberpunk 2077,
Newer Resident Evil, & such...

Sooooooo?

I tried out Wolfenstine recently on GOG, it was a Free Game,
It had Online Play... I was pleased with the Game...

GOG felt a lot better with my experience then on Steam,
however I can't really justify it being a Steam killer just yet.

And sadly? Even GOG is a mess in with Bugs, not just Steam,
but GOG also has some Bugs going on.

So far if I had to get into it right now? I'd have to say
EPIC Games still seems like the better alternative to
fighting Steam, but GOG is still great for Older Games.

GOG currently only takes a few mb to install & runs
really low recourse, where as Steam is heavy on your system,
so in all reality of the situation?

I had a well rounded better experience with GOG then
I have had with Steam in about 10 Years now.

GOG handled better on my Computer without struggling to run it,
then Steam has in a very long time. But would I actually replace
Steam with GOG? Only if the choices of Games improved first.
Currently I would not. Currently i'd feel far better choosing
EPIC Games instead of GOG to be the Steam killer.

Just my two cents is all...
ShadowShifterMarlith の投稿を引用:
I've tried GOG Galaxy 2.0 Today:

GOG is too Old School to Compete with STEAM,
however they do still support Games like Cyberpunk 2077,
Newer Resident Evil, & such...

Sooooooo?

I tried out Wolfenstine recently on GOG, it was a Free Game,
It had Online Play... I was pleased with the Game...

GOG felt a lot better with my experience then on Steam,
however I can't really justify it being a Steam killer just yet.

And sadly? Even GOG is a mess in with Bugs, not just Steam,
but GOG also has some Bugs going on.

So far if I had to get into it right now? I'd have to say
EPIC Games still seems like the better alternative to
fighting Steam, but GOG is still great for Older Games.

GOG currently only takes a few mb to install & runs
really low recourse, where as Steam is heavy on your system,
so in all reality of the situation?

I had a well rounded better experience with GOG then
I have had with Steam in about 10 Years now.

GOG handled better on my Computer without struggling to run it,
then Steam has in a very long time. But would I actually replace
Steam with GOG? Only if the choices of Games improved first.
Currently I would not. Currently i'd feel far better choosing
EPIC Games instead of GOG to be the Steam killer.

Just my two cents is all...
Gog doesn't have Resident evil games. Anyways If heard back since 2008 people been trying to say it steam killer, and hasn't proven to be one at all, due to lack of games most people wanted, and because a lot of games that devs, and publisher wanted drm with their game, which can see the problem already why not Steam killer of any kind. Gog great for old games, but problem still remains not all games release on Gog, and are only via Steam which is a problem with game devs, or publisher not bothering to list on more than one store. Gog client also CEF, they barely update it at all, but at some point in the future if they update it to dropping windows 7/8.1 support you be complaining again about it, the only good thing is the games can be downloaded from web broswer so don't need the client to download it to begin with, and they're offline installers as well.

Epic no steam killer due to being a bare bone store, it also uses CEF if you didn't know, and you have to use client in order to download the games, or even run some of the games that are DRM tied to client, such as denuvo, or etc... So if have same complain as Steam dropping Windows 7/8.1 you're gonna complain again with Epic in the future.

End of the day people like some platforms over others for varies of reasons, but comes down what you plan to just overall, but in this case if wanna stick to only one OS for Life your only choice is Gog, Zoom-platform, or etc that offer offline installer, and offer downlaods for games via web browser without needing a client.

If haven't heard of zoom platform before, check them out.
https://www.zoom-platform.com/
最近の変更はDr.Shadowds 🐉が行いました; 2023年7月2日 17時23分
Everyone cheer MS victory against regulators in scooping up Blizzard ( and I am aware that Sony is quite ahead and we like this in that context ), but MS is still a gigantic corporation with global reach and control, consolidating in the industry, however moderate that consolidating might be in the grand scheme of things vs the rest of its business.

Meanwhile, we need to DO something about Valve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnHmskwqCCQ
"Steam says why we collect your Data, Why we Spy on you"

Ah, that's why a man my age gets army recruiting spam. It could only be the Arma workshop and forums.
xBCxRangers の投稿を引用:
"Steam says why we collect your Data, Why we Spy on you"

Ah, that's why a man my age gets army recruiting spam. It could only be the Arma workshop and forums.
um that's not steam it means someone put your name on document list of potential recruits otherwise that be a damn shame if the army is that desperate for recruits , also it can be anyone it doesn't have to be somone close to you
Alex の投稿を引用:
xBCxRangers の投稿を引用:
"Steam says why we collect your Data, Why we Spy on you"

Ah, that's why a man my age gets army recruiting spam. It could only be the Arma workshop and forums.
um that's not steam it means someone put your name on document list of potential recruits otherwise that be a damn shame if the army is that desperate for recruits , also it can be anyone it doesn't have to be somone close to you

Well, in fact they are desperate right now in what i'm seeing, and idk who else would put a granddad on list of possible recruits. Only place i sort anything military out, is on Arma. It's only me and my wife in this house, and so don't know where else it would come.
I never thought i'd say this but so is Epic.. The bugs are endless here now..

I think moving to chrome was an insanely bad idea.
最近の変更はPocketYodaが行いました; 2023年7月2日 19時57分
xBCxRangers の投稿を引用:
Alex の投稿を引用:
um that's not steam it means someone put your name on document list of potential recruits otherwise that be a damn shame if the army is that desperate for recruits , also it can be anyone it doesn't have to be somone close to you

Well, in fact they are desperate right now in what i'm seeing, and idk who else would put a granddad on list of possible recruits. Only place i sort anything military out, is on Arma. It's only me and my wife in this house, and so don't know where else it would come.
well the best answer i can give you is that somone you met online or otherwise knew you enough to put your name down when they signed up for the army
ShadowShifterMarlith (禁止済) 2023年7月2日 22時49分 
I'm not even looking for any Sites that are able to compete with Steam
in Game Sales / List of Games...

I'm just looking for any Site with both old / new Games
that isn't as problematic as Steam is. Any Site will do.

I'm having a hard time looking for one, & best I can come up with is EPIC Games.
--- Origin = Only just got more Games on their Store, but it's all EA Games
--- UPlay = Is As Bad As Steam Is Right Now With Problems
--- Blizzard = Doesn't Have A Large Enough Store Front Yet
--- Bethesda = Doesn't Have A Large Enough Store Front Yet
--- Steam = Has their foot up their own Arzs
--- GOG Galaxy = Has mostly older outdated Games,
but their Service works way better then Steam does right now.


EPIC Games doesn't have enough Games to beat Steam,
but they do have Games I wouldn't mind buying on their Service,
& they do have Freebies every so often, so thats a Bonus
& that is enough for me to wanna jump over to them after
all the problems with Steam we are all having. If EPIC Games
are having problems right now? It can't be as bad as Steam.



It just seems to me that EPIC Games is the real winner here...
--- What do you all think?
--- Is Steam really worth all the head aches people are getting right now?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing about 24/7 for 4 Years Straight to get fixed?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing over things that Valve clearly is ignoring us over?
--- Is Steam really worth fighting a losing battle over?

If Valve clearly has made up their mind by now?
Isn't it time we make up our own minds?

What do you think?
最近の変更はShadowShifterMarlithが行いました; 2023年7月2日 22時52分
76561198083019420 の投稿を引用:
not really, the news sites just aren't steam employees like you with vested interests
Whatever floats your boat buddy, but your tinfoil hat is too tight.

PocketYoda の投稿を引用:
I think moving to chrome was an insanely bad idea.
It's not like the client moved to chromium yesterday. It's been there for years and it's not a particularly obscure choice. CEF is a largely adopted framework out there.

ShadowShifterMarlith の投稿を引用:
--- Is Steam really worth all the head aches people are getting right now?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing about 24/7 for 4 Years Straight to get fixed?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing over things that Valve clearly is ignoring us over?
--- Is Steam really worth fighting a losing battle over?
Consider most people out there don't have those headaches and aren't arguing about it. They're just using their client and playing their games. They wouldn't have the userbase if a large portion of users were having errors.

Of course it sucks for the few who get the short end of the stick and suffer bugs, sometimes for months or years.
ShadowShifterMarlith の投稿を引用:
I'm not even looking for any Sites that are able to compete with Steam
in Game Sales / List of Games...

I'm just looking for any Site with both old / new Games
that isn't as problematic as Steam is. Any Site will do.

I'm having a hard time looking for one, & best I can come up with is EPIC Games.
--- Origin = Only just got more Games on their Store, but it's all EA Games
--- UPlay = Is As Bad As Steam Is Right Now With Problems
--- Blizzard = Doesn't Have A Large Enough Store Front Yet
--- Bethesda = Doesn't Have A Large Enough Store Front Yet
--- Steam = Has their foot up their own Arzs
--- GOG Galaxy = Has mostly older outdated Games,
but their Service works way better then Steam does right now.
--- Origin changed app to EA that their new app, can't even use old Origin app.
--- Uplay changed to new app call Ubisoft connection.
--- Blizzard isn't gonna be big because it just activistion-blizzard games, if didn't know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Activision_Blizzard

--- Bethesda client was shutdown last year if you didn't know, people were able to port their games to Steam free copies.
https://www.pcgamer.com/the-bethesda-launcher-will-be-shut-down-on-may-11/

--- Steam still king of the hill all these years haven't budge once since 2005.
--- Gog still same all these years with games slowly release on Gog YEARS later after release, assuming if publisher want to remove DRM from said game.
--- Epic games uses CEF if still haven't notice, it will at some point update as well which you have a problem with same as Steam.

ShadowShifterMarlith の投稿を引用:
EPIC Games doesn't have enough Games to beat Steam,
but they do have Games I wouldn't mind buying on their Service,
& they do have Freebies every so often, so thats a Bonus
& that is enough for me to wanna jump over to them after
all the problems with Steam we are all having. If EPIC Games
are having problems right now? It can't be as bad as Steam.
Epic games only release in 2018 Dec, they been slowly allowing games to list on their store as they're a heavy curated store where they only allow games they deem worth to be listed on their store.

I don't see why you wouldn't claim free games, as they're free.
I don't see why you don't want to use more than one store?
But problem still remains where if you plan to stick to only using Windows 7/8 they will drop it at some point, and your problem comes back all over again, as well the fact Epic doesn't offer download games via browser, Gog does.


ShadowShifterMarlith の投稿を引用:
It just seems to me that EPIC Games is the real winner here...
--- What do you all think?
--- Is Steam really worth all the head aches people are getting right now?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing about 24/7 for 4 Years Straight to get fixed?
--- Is Steam really worth arguing over things that Valve clearly is ignoring us over?
--- Is Steam really worth fighting a losing battle over?

If Valve clearly has made up their mind by now?
Isn't it time we make up our own minds?

What do you think?
--- Why not use all of them?
--- The headaches you refer to about windows 7/8 drop still applies with Epic so you be back to gog soon that happens.
--- People been demanding Gog to fix their client for years, people been demanding changes to Epic for long time, so overall there always gonna be some demands, and arguring wnating something fixed, or added.
--- I don't think that matters either way, saying the same thing.
--- Steam not gonna bend the knee to keep supporting OS they plan to drop in 2024... Other clients may do the same in the future so you still be stuck in same spot complaining about not getting support for Windows 7/8.

Yes Valve made up their mind since the day they made the announcement.
You always had your choices that been explain to you in other discussions, either upgrade OS, or use linux to have the support, otherwinse stick to DRM free games offline installers such as gog, or retail disc copies only if you refuse to upgrade OS, or use linux.
最近の変更はDr.Shadowds 🐉が行いました; 2023年7月3日 0時18分
I can understand why some people prefer Gog to Steam, but Epic? I own games there (not just the freebies) and continue to buy games there, but the client is worse than any other by far.

They should really cut down on the free games and invest more on developing it.
最近の変更はmetamecが行いました; 2023年7月3日 0時38分
metamec の投稿を引用:
I can understand why some people prefer Gog to Steam, but Epic? I own games there (not just the freebies) and continue to buy games there, but the client is worse than any other by far.

They should really cut down on the free games and invest more on developing it.
It has way less bugs..
PocketYoda の投稿を引用:
metamec の投稿を引用:
I can understand why some people prefer Gog to Steam, but Epic? I own games there (not just the freebies) and continue to buy games there, but the client is worse than any other by far.

They should really cut down on the free games and invest more on developing it.
It has way less bugs..
Some of current bugs are already fixed in beta branch. Either opt in to beta or just wait for an update.
New things always have bugs. And I admit, that Valve should make sure, that all those bugs are gone BEFORE they release a new client, but the amount of hysteria new launcher created is just dumb.
最近の変更はZarinethが行いました; 2023年7月3日 1時48分
PocketYoda の投稿を引用:
metamec の投稿を引用:
I can understand why some people prefer Gog to Steam, but Epic? I own games there (not just the freebies) and continue to buy games there, but the client is worse than any other by far.

They should really cut down on the free games and invest more on developing it.
It has way less bugs..

Of course it does. It's a far more simplistic piece of software with far fewer features. Despite this, the frontend is more unintuitive than Steam and the UI latency is so high that navigating it feels like wading through a sea of treacle in size twelve flippers.
最近の変更はmetamecが行いました; 2023年7月3日 3時14分
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