Iron Knights (已封禁) 2023 年 6 月 28 日 下午 8:32
Switch to GoG - Good Old Games.
Sure, they don't have every latest release for sale, but there is no launcher requirement. You buy the games and you OWN the games, not a Lease contract. You don't have to use the Galaxy launcher and you don't have to install from it. You can download installation files from the website server with just your login. They provide you with a shortcut file in the directory to send straight to desktop and you have a link to the executable, no Galaxy. You can find games re-composed to work on Windows XP & higher all the way back from the DOS days. Plus they now have a partnership with CD Projekt Red (Witcher Series & Cyberpunk 2077). But what's great about it, you put games on the wish list and you get a discount in 2-3 weeks. Much lower prices than Steam. :steamthumbsup:
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Haruspex 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 5:53 
引用自 Azure Fang
(good luck getting a 16-bit installer to work today, can't wait for the 32-bit apocalypse)

Emulation, translation layers, virtual machines... One of the benefits of PC is that someone will always ensure the old stuff is still playable. DOS support went away over 20 years ago, but I can still run my DOS software via emulator, or boot into FreeDOS. The old 16 bit executables supported by Window 9x and older don't work in modern Windows, but I can just run PCem and use them just fine.

As for the 32 bit apocalypse, I'm not worried about it. People often cite Apple silicon as a hint of the future. Extremely high efficiency with zero 32 bit support. Meanwhile though, AMD rolls out their 4nm 7040 series chips that outperform the M1 and M2 while still retaining legacy x86 support. They claim it's 20% faster than the M2 while being 50% more energy efficient.
The Presence 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 6:13 
Pass.

I'd much rather use every platform available to me.
Pepe 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 6:43 
引用自 Iron Knights
You buy the games and you OWN the games, not a Lease contract.
Well, a digital store license is more like a lease than an ownership. Your games are licensed to you, in your name. When you die, you can't pass your license to anyone, except if they have some specific clause. Of course, companies won't come to your door to verify that your nephew is using your games instead of your dead self, because it would cost them too much, but legally, you are on the red. Why do you think all these digital store companies were thrilled to remove the physical disks? Those were kind of a loophole for you to pass the license to someone else as the license was linked to the physical copy in a way. Now you bought it online, in your name, for your account, it's just yours. :guardian:

引用自 Iron Knights
Plus they now have a partnership with CD Projekt Red (Witcher Series & Cyberpunk 2077).
GoG is CDPR. Get your facts straight.


GoG is a nice alternative for having non-DRM games, but it's not perfect, not all games are on GoG, and their services haven't improved much over the years.

A few years ago, GoG had a chance to be grand, coming up with those old Dosbox bundled game that just worked, having $1 != €1 policy, but then CDPR "took an arrow to the knee":
- no GNU/Linux GoG Galaxy;
- no Wine/Proton integration;
- no on-par list of games as Steam;
- dropped GoG Connect which gave you a chance to get a free licence of the game you bought on Steam;
- focused on the disaster of Cyberkpunk 2077 too much. They came a few days ago blaming the users for all the bad reception. How kind of brain dead to be to come up with that narrative? I know, the kind of VP of PR shill which gets 1mil KKonaW dollars a year for eating poo.

Let's say my confidence is CDPR has been on a landslide in the last couple of years.

On the other hand, GoG is the only real alternative we have at the moment.

Good luck!
最后由 Pepe 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 8:00
nullable 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:39 
引用自 Iron Knights
Sure, they don't have every latest release for sale, but there is no launcher requirement. You buy the games and you OWN the games, not a Lease contract.

You might want to read the the terms. Not having DRM or a launcher requirement doesn't change things as much as you seem to think.

But your reasoning is a a perfect example why lots of games will never be released on GoG, because users seem to think if the rules aren't enforced, there are no rules.

Whether you buy a game on disc, form Steam or GoG, all you have is a license and a source for the files. Additional requirement of DRM or a launcher don't really change that.
Crazy Tiger 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:46 
The games I have on my wishlist on GoG don't have lower prices than on Steam, though. If anything, the discounted prices are all higher. And sadly they lost touch with they're once core principle of making old games work on modern systems.

But as always I don't understand why people need to switch. It's not possible to use and utilise multiple stores/platforms at the same time?
最后由 Crazy Tiger 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:47
SqueakyTweaky 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:48 
You don't own the game there also.
Start_Running 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:50 
引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|
引用自 Lazy Dog
You don't need to announce your departure, nobody cares.
They never just leave. That would be too easy. They always have to make some sermon or have some manifesto.
The ones that make the loudest declaration of departure, almost never actually leave.
The ones actually serious about leaving.. just leave..



引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|
引用自 Pierce Dalton

Yeah, I'm going to buy a console just to play a game that is available on PC :WH3_greasus_rofl:
Then Steam must not be all that bad, is it? Yet you call others fanboys. Do you guys just like calling other users names when you do the same thing? I really don't get it. You're here to play games. We're here to play games.
It's easyb to talk about principles until you have to do more than talk.


引用自 C²C^Guyver |NZB|
It's also pretty sad that this is just another Windows 7 thread.
We saw these kinda threads when XP dropped. I wonder how many of them actually left.



引用自 Crazy Tiger
The games I have on my wishlist on GoG don't have lower prices than on Steam, though. If anything, the discounted prices are all higher.

But as always I don't understand why people need to switch. It's not possible to use and utilise multiple stores/platforms at the same time?

my experience has been that the GoG price and the STeam price are generally the same. At best you'll find a 1-3% difference and that difference isn't always in Gog's favour.

It's basically to the point where if I see a game on GioG and steam. I buy it on steam. Because convenience. And less installation fuss.
Crazy Tiger 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:57 
引用自 Start_Running
引用自 Crazy Tiger
The games I have on my wishlist on GoG don't have lower prices than on Steam, though. If anything, the discounted prices are all higher.

But as always I don't understand why people need to switch. It's not possible to use and utilise multiple stores/platforms at the same time?

my experience has been that the GoG price and the STeam price are generally the same. At best you'll find a 1-3% difference and that difference isn't always in Gog's favour.

It's basically to the point where if I see a game on GioG and steam. I buy it on steam. Because convenience. And less installation fuss.
It's something I've been keeping track of. For example the Freedom Force games. Usual base price on Steam is € 3,99, and the discount on Steam brings the price to € 0,99. On GoG they're always € 4,99 for the base price and discounted € 1,29. KKnD Extreme is always on Steam for base price € 5,69 and discounted to € 3.68, on GoG it's base price € 6,99 and discounted to € 4,59.

And that's across the board, so to say. There used to be a time such games were same price or better priced on GoG. But that has changed in the past 2 years.
最后由 Crazy Tiger 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:57
Start_Running 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 7:58 
Which is to say GoG was probably doing some price match finnegling which they can no longer afford to do.
Crazyeyes 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 8:10 
bye
⭕⃤ BIPPO 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 8:14 
Hmmmm na thanks, steam is better
Ranger 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 9:49 
Yes, I too am trying to support GOG exclusively now. Recent events on Steam with the botched client and worthless Steam Support that tell you to drop dead when you report problems have convinced me that I was very foolish to ever support DRM locked games.

GOG are the best option for gamers because your games can't be taken from you. The problem with DRM is that there is no end point. The DRM is forever. No matter what Steam is like now, it might not be the same in 5 years. But you will still have to deal with them because your games can't be played otherwise. Steam has already changed considerably from how it was a decade ago (mostly for the worse). This unbelievably bad new client is a warning about what can come. If you your games are locked up in DRM you have no control. You take what you get and that's the end of it. Why not support DRM-free games that can't be taken away from you and respect your rights as a user?

引用自 Eagle_of_Fire
Main problem with GoG is that you need a valid credit card which can be billed oversea. If it wasn't for this problem I would have bought way more games from them.

Acquiring a pre-paid card just don't work outside of NA for this purpose.

PayPal is pretty much the best way to get around this. For whatever reason (taxes or legal reasons I presume), GOG doesn't have an American bank. All of the transactions are processed in Europe. It used to be much worse when they did their banking in Cyprus. I got failed transactions from tripping fraud protection all the time back then. At some point they switched out of Cyprus and it has improved a bit, but can still be a problem for American customers. I've been through this myself (been using GOG for about 12-13 years). But PayPal seems to be pretty issue free. It's what I'd recommend using. If you don't want to use PayPal, I'm afraid I don't have a better solution. Wish they would open an American bank account to process payments here.
Brian9824 2023 年 6 月 29 日 上午 10:07 
Eh fun fact, GoG has backed off their stance of no DRM and their games are starting to include it in a variety of forms.

Big thread on it here - https://www.gog.com/forum/general/drm_on_gog_list_of_singleplayer_games_with_drm/page1

Not surprising, they have at best been barely profitable and at worst losing money for a while now.
Iron Knights (已封禁) 2023 年 6 月 29 日 下午 5:47 
Also some game developers might introduce an update that makes them not run on your OS <insert MS version here>, but with GoG you can run the original version with 0 updates (given it had no game breaking bugs), or version "0n.x" handpicked.
最后由 Iron Knights 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 29 日 下午 5:48
AlexTheRedScout 2023 年 6 月 29 日 下午 6:27 
引用自 Iron Knights
Sure, they don't have every latest release for sale, but there is no launcher requirement. You buy the games and you OWN the games, not a Lease contract. You don't have to use the Galaxy launcher and you don't have to install from it. You can download installation files from the website server with just your login. They provide you with a shortcut file in the directory to send straight to desktop and you have a link to the executable, no Galaxy. You can find games re-composed to work on Windows XP & higher all the way back from the DOS days. Plus they now have a partnership with CD Projekt Red (Witcher Series & Cyberpunk 2077). But what's great about it, you put games on the wish list and you get a discount in 2-3 weeks. Much lower prices than Steam. :steamthumbsup:
reading up gog why would you even use it over steam, the same with windows 10 and others alot of windows 7 users tend to claim windows 10 is worse then 7 when the opposite is true ontop gog might just drop 7 anyways and the games might stop support for 7 making it uphill battle
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