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Maybe 5-10 years until they remove W7 support.
I dont think that steam can do anything to change to always support older systems. After all, legacy server connections are both unsafe and cost money. But i think its very important for people to realize that steam CANNOT and is NOT REQUIRED to always let you play the game as you bought them in the system that they used to run after enough time has passed.
The big part that will drop Windows 7 support, just like when Valve dropped XP support, is the Chromium browser. That said, going to Chromium 110 or newer might alleviate some of the performance concerns, as the Chromium project can dump many legacy emulation code paths.
in the case of the OP, it's because it's a "retro" pc, so im guessing they want it that way?
Just missed the entire point, once again. I'm not trying to run modern anything. I'm trying to play games made for Windows XP, on Windows XP. That's literally it.
I'd also ask at this point to stop perpetuating the lie that most or all games work on modern hardware. You can't just say that. I've had this game called Pool of Radiance, Ruins of Myth Drannor for 20+ years, it only installs and plays on WinXP, not 7, not 10, not in a VM, and the game actually kicks ass. That's just 1 example, there's probably a bunch of them. Those are the games I'm actually most interested in now, as I have WinXP working great, finding other games that won't run on anything else. I'm sure there's dozens of them, long forgotten and lost to time. Steam usually delists games like that. Another one is um, Mortal Kombat Arcade Kollection. I can't remember what OS it was made for, but it doesn't run on W10, have to jump through hoops to get around the GFWL built into it, and afaik it's delisted. Or at least it was when I was pulling my hair out a couple years ago. Ended up just using MAME/Console to play it.
It's even in my Steam Library.
As for the other games, unfamiliar, but sometimes all you need to do is run one thing specifically or change options to get some older games to work, which is very low effort scenarios.
Quite simply, WinXP era games are my jam. Unfortunately, this is also the terrible era of invasive, malicious DRM, so sometimes even sealed boxed copies can turn into a headache. But yes, Steam is forcing me to rebuy my games, never should have bought digital to start with, that is the takeaway. GOG is not always the answer, as the library lacks a lot of the bangers that released from 2000-2007 for one reason or another. The DOS/3.1/Win95 era is mostly solved on modern systems with DOSBox these days. I have ExoDOS, it covers that entire era for me, and everything runs perfectly. WinXP is a different beast, there are games from that era that won't even start up on other OS'es, so it's the challenge I've decided to focus on. I am sharing my journey and stories here, as I have never really posted on this forum before. It sure is a busy place!
Back on topic: Steam really has let me down. Valve need to patch it so their offline backups don't require a Steam client login to work , they just do. These are meant to be my games, this isn't a rental service, or so I thought, yet I'm locked out of thousands of dollars of purchases. Not acceptable IMO. You would have never seen me post if this was how it worked, I'd be blissfully gaming instead of typing. Why do they need a log in anyway? It's unnecessary DRM.
Glad to read they've fixed it. If you search the game discussion forum, you'll see me and many others swearing a lot about how it was broken for a long, long time.
You really should have read the SSA before creating the Steam account.
Get out here with that BS. No one ever reads that, and even if we did, we'd barely understand it. We all scroll down and click "I accept". No exceptions.
I mean, Wolf3D, Raptor(Awesome top down shooter), Blake Stone, Commander Keen 1-6, Monster Bash, Alien Carnage...
I could list the entire library, since still own all the original diskette's from the era lol Ya always bought a license back then too. Even with later games, you own a license not the game. Quake, Unreal, Duke3D, etc etc.
Then you already know the answer; you can't.
It's really that simple, and it's nothing to do with DRM. It's steam requiring you to prove you own the game. It's not that hard to understand?
As to the other things you've said? GFWL games run just fine under W10. I still have the original Gr1d, and yes that works, along with a number of that "era" games.
Gr1d does have some problems you have to work around, but it's not something that stops you from playing it, unlike much earlier DOS games which required a complete rewrite to work...
"I just wanna pirate games so i don't have to buy them"
Steam is made to make sure you own the game your attempting to run, because otherwise what's stopping me buying it and giving the game to all my mates for free?
The days of the disc is long gone, and to shut down any "but i could do that with a disc" arguments, if you own the disc only 1 person can use that disc at a time, no matter how many people you want to share it with..
But....
if i was to share my copy of Fallout 4 with everyone, and Steam didn't need to authenticate anything? .....
yeah that's going to end well isn't it? /s
It *IS* a rental service though, you own absolutely NOTHING. You have "the right to play it" and nothing more. Naught. Nada, Nothing.
This is part of the agreement you accepted when you signed up to Steam (And IIRC is also in the one you have to accept when buying a game)
Why do they need you to authenticate the fact a different PC is attempting to play it? To stop people giving all their mates the game for free, which is actually a violation of the terms you agreed to...