Steam WebUI, Stop...

[PanicOregon281]

Steam seriously stop with the WebUI crap. I liked Steam how it was, it was annoying enough you broke the Themes system, now you keep "modernizing" the client, one instance is the game launch options when trying to play the game. just stop, it's time to stop.

I do not like this new to UI style, i don't know who is using basic UI elements but seriously STOP, it looks like an Intern is programming application.

[Satoru]

you are complaiing that the new game options allows you to not only save a specific option, but to always use that option to launch the game going forward? People will complain about literally ANYTHING these days even when it is objectively better

[ReBoot]

It's been WebUI for years and only now do you find out?

[PanicOregon281]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

It's been WebUI for years and only now do you find out?

The pop up for "launch 32bit, launch multiplayer, etc" was not always some basic template UI elements.

[PanicOregon281]

Originally posted by Satoru:

you are complaiing that the new game options allows you to not only save a specific option, but to always use that option to launch the game going forward? People will complain about literally ANYTHING these days even when it is objectively better

Mate it's literally a basic Template UI element now. it literally looks like someone whose just learning to use something like Visual studio is changing the UI.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

It's been WebUI for years and only now do you find out?

The pop up for "launch 32bit, launch multiplayer, etc" was not always some basic template UI elements.

So are you explicitly talking about this dialog?

[PanicOregon281]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

The pop up for "launch 32bit, launch multiplayer, etc" was not always some basic template UI elements.

So are you explicitly talking about this dialog?

yes, the pop up for launching the game. They've now turned it into basic UI template elements.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

Originally posted by ReBoot:

So are you explicitly talking about this dialog?

yes, the pop up for launching the game. They've now turned it into basic UI template elements.

I's been basic controls before as well. It's just that those now look different.

Anyway, what exactly broke?

[PanicOregon281]

Originally posted by ReBoot:

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

yes, the pop up for launching the game. They've now turned it into basic UI template elements.

I's been basic controls before as well. It's just that those now look different.

Anyway, what exactly broke?

You mean the Themes system? used to it could apply the theme completely on the Client UI, ever since they changed it Themes don't apply correctly, for instance the background of the steam pages wont apply the theme, along with many of the UI elements don't display theme fonts correctly etc.
Themes have been broken for a while. hell some themes can no longer display the fonts correctly and they end up overlapping off the elements their trying to display on.

[ReBoot]

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

You mean the Themes system? used to it could apply the theme completely on the Client UI, ever since they changed it Themes don't apply correctly, for instance the background of the steam pages wont apply the theme, along with many of the UI elements don't display theme fonts correctly etc.
Themes have been broken for a while. hell some themes can no longer display the fonts correctly and they end up overlapping off the elements their trying to display on.

That's a fair assessment but you gotta admit, this wasn't surprising. Valve's skin API has never been remotely stable. I've built a Steam skin back around 2004 myself and it stopped working with UI V2. For reference, we're on UI V3 right now (with gradual shifts to UI V4). And within the 3 series, skins stopping working the moment there's the slightest change ain't news either. Hasn't been in V2, by the way. I don't remember how stable V1 was in that regard.

Now as for that V4 stuff. This CSS-based nonsense (I'm not of the highest of opinion of using CEF as a cross-platform UI toolkit, it's not like there weren't any alternatives either, especially ones more lenient on system resources but that's besides the point of this thread) CAN BE MODIFIED! People have been doing that already!

[ItsMu-risaki]

Steam doesn't open on my computer, i think its because WebUi is missing?

[nullable]

Definite maybe.

[AustrAlien2010]

There's nothing I can do to help you in any way. You should probably contact support of you need help.


If you want to stop Steam from updating, you have to stop it from updating manually.

Use a file explorer and go to: C:\Steam\
Create a new text file in that folder called: 'steam.cfg'

Type and save this text in this file:

BootStrapperInhibitAll=enable
BootStrapperForceSelfUpdate=disable


I believe then you will receive no more updates. And whenever you want to receive updates again, you can remove that text from the file.

[Cray]

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

it looks like an Intern is programming application.

Accurately describes 80% of the steam app, visuals or not. Someone with lacking knowledge at some point decided to use CEF and now they're stuck with it.

The whole CEF/webhelper baseline is causing a lot of bugs and issues too, because it's an overcomplicated thing for the job and basically emulates a whole little internet + server + browser + reskin just to display a gui. The very idea of the concept is laughable if you think of it from a basic software engineering perspective.

Must be a nightmare to secure, too.

[PanicOregon281]

Originally posted by Cray:

Originally posted by PanicOregon281:

it looks like an Intern is programming application.

Accurately describes 80% of the steam app, visuals or not. Someone with lacking knowledge at some point decided to use CEF and now they're stuck with it.

The whole CEF/webhelper baseline is causing a lot of bugs and issues too, because it's an overcomplicated thing for the job and basically emulates a whole little internet + server + browser + reskin just to display a gui. The very idea of the concept is laughable if you think of it from a basic software engineering perspective.

Must be a nightmare to secure, too.

Google doesn't even try to secure Chromium or CEF memory wise. Google believes in garbage sandboxing per container and is now trying to dump memory locking into things like the Linux kernel. if memory serves me well, the Linux call was mlock, which locks the memory address for the application. I also don't recall the Chromium dev not being a dumbass and leaving an unlock function in the kernel pull they submitted, in essence once the memory is locked it cannot be unlocked....