Steam moderator bias?

[Neo Typhoon Alpha]

For those who got banned from specific forums do you ever feel like there's a bias behind it? Half my bans wasn't me breaking the rules. I think they just skim through your post/ban history and decide from there, not the actual rule breaking. I've seen some moderators will make a baseless assumption. I see the word "troll" way too much.

Anyways, in b4 someone says, "lol you deserve the ban" not here to discuss why and what I got banned for, just the process on how Steam moderators ban people.

Edit: I'll break my promise above. Got wrongfully banned in the Factorio forums. Was able to overturn it because I didn't break any rules. Proof: https://imgur.com/a/0OKds2K

If you are wrongfully banned let Steam support know!!!!

[MonkehMaster]

MISTER BONK님이 먼저 게시:

PocketYoda님이 먼저 게시:

Do you still have the list?

STEAM Support will have it if they keep their tickets for more than 2 years. Wayback Machine is also your friend.

There are still a few locked threads about this that are still accessible. Word combinations such as - STEAM / Moderators / Stalking / Abuse / Harassment etc will bring them up on a browser search.

couldnt find any "list", except for a reddit post about abuse from a single moderator and the post was like 7 years old.

[Seraphita]

MISTER BONK님이 먼저 게시:

No. They also have sock accounts which they use to bait or befriend people on the forums, this is why the same accounts are able to get away with anything and are never sanctioned.

This was how I started having trouble outside of STEAM. 2 years ago you will probably remember the moderator who posted a list of users they didn't like on Reddit encouraging their friends to harass them on here. I was on that list. I reported them to STEAM support and have been stalked and harassed ever since.

There is a difference between goofing around and cyberstalking which is a crime.

If I could close my account without losing all my purchases I would have done that already.

Imagine if steam mods are paid to troll people (Like the guy here who stalks me, I guess). I know I noticed a pattern where some rule breakers never get bans or at least rarely get banned. It sounds like a conspiracy theory of course but it's in the realm of plausible.

Yeah, if there was a way to keep purchases and delete steam, I probably would do it just to get away from these people. Because let's be honest... The line "Don't break the rules and you will not get banned" is fine and dandy until you report some without any impacts.

If you make multiple reports about someone who clearly BREAKS the ToS and guidelines and NOTHING happens to them? It raises a red flag. Let's say whatever we want. If people do get banned for whatever then people breaking rules and guidelines SHOULD be banned.

To dig deeper in this, I tried it many times before. We're not talking of petty reports like "He has a different opinion, I'll report him." I speak of trolls who CLEARLY break the rules. Reporting them did nothing. If you ask support, they'll pretend none is tolerated.

Word for word. So I tried to report actually rule breaking posts. No consequences. Ouch... So it means that not all reports are judged equal. If someone tries to bait you and mods decided that YOU are in the wrong for responding to them, the troll CAN get away with it.

[Melvin The Narcissistic]

Seraphita님이 먼저 게시:

Melvin The Narcissist님이 먼저 게시:

You got banned on the FF14 forums for doing the thing you keep complaining about. Then gang up against new posts when they don't agree with your views and always back up your buddies who gang up on others when they start to harass an OP.

The new mods aren't being bias, they work more like a bot that skims through the texts and pass on the next reports to other mods to skim since the forums you been on, you and your group mass report to get others banned. Working the system can only work so long until karma hits.
So maybe instead of joining the bandwagon to mock and belittle others, just block them if you feel its "trolling".

Just like I should block you, then? lol. You don't really know what you're talking about. You were defending a literal proven troll and harassing someone else by defending them. I'd say you got lucky that you weren't reported for it. You have no idea what I was banned for.

Of course mods are "correct" when you get your victims banned because it's a win in your book and this is where the bias is from. Tell me exactly why I should not report someone who asks for the power to ban every other players who do not conform to their flawed logic?

Someone who is wrong by being irrationally unreasonable deserves all the way to be told and if they cry "victimisation", it's their problem. It's what they did instantly and you cannot prove me wrong on this. They instantly harassed and fought back the "cult" for disagreeing.

What's better, they kept trying to rally people to their cause. Innocents who don't know better when the intention was clear unless you REALLY want to defend someone who is so out of their mind that they think they can control everyone else around them. Nice try.

For context, nobody should be acting like they're perfect and flawless and then cry when people call them out on it. It's not about views and I'd suggest you stop deluding yourself. You both cried about being belittled when his idea was so BAD it was hard not to laugh.

The post I was actually banned for was so tame that it didn't break any rules, amusingly. I was likely chosen at random because everyone "ganged" on the OP for all the good reasons. I even proved that he lied about his own actions and this was NOT deleted from the thread.

I could share the thread right now and people would judge on their own. This wouldn't even be an attempt to get people on my side. People are free to judge me for what I've actually admitted to be. I'm not perfect. They'd also see the truth about OP and his madness. So...

There you again acting like you know better yet keep on making excuses on why you are right and everyone else is just wrong. This isn't just about that thread either, YOU and the others keep on ganging up on every post you people don't like. And yes, you can and should block me but you won't, because you love this stuff. you love to "troll the trolls" and feel better about each other when there is someone to kick around.

You guys are so triggered by other people's opinions that you just can't help yourself to keep baiting/belittling at others and then get upset when called out on it. When your ban is finished, watch how you will just start right up again and white knighting your buddies for their toxicity.



Thanks for proving me right here once again to the public on how your contradictions elude you.

[Melvin The Narcissistic]

Seraphita님이 먼저 게시:

MISTER BONK님이 먼저 게시:

No. They also have sock accounts which they use to bait or befriend people on the forums, this is why the same accounts are able to get away with anything and are never sanctioned.

This was how I started having trouble outside of STEAM. 2 years ago you will probably remember the moderator who posted a list of users they didn't like on Reddit encouraging their friends to harass them on here. I was on that list. I reported them to STEAM support and have been stalked and harassed ever since.

There is a difference between goofing around and cyberstalking which is a crime.

If I could close my account without losing all my purchases I would have done that already.

Imagine if steam mods are paid to troll people (Like the guy here who stalks me, I guess). I know I noticed a pattern where some rule breakers never get bans or at least rarely get banned. It sounds like a conspiracy theory of course but it's in the realm of plausible.

Yeah, if there was a way to keep purchases and delete steam, I probably would do it just to get away from these people. Because let's be honest... The line "Don't break the rules and you will not get banned" is fine and dandy until you report some without any impacts.

If you make multiple reports about someone who clearly BREAKS the ToS and guidelines and NOTHING happens to them? It raises a red flag. Let's say whatever we want. If people do get banned for whatever then people breaking rules and guidelines SHOULD be banned.

Or you could stop buying and paying the people who you complain about and move on... we know you dont want too, its all open air talk in hopes someone can agree about your ban.

[PocketYoda]

MISTER BONK님이 먼저 게시:

PocketYoda님이 먼저 게시:

Do you still have the list?

STEAM Support will have it if they keep their tickets for more than 2 years. Wayback Machine is also your friend.

There are still a few locked threads about this that are still accessible. Word combinations such as - STEAM / Moderators / Stalking / Abuse / Harassment etc will bring them up on a browser search.

Funnily enough i got banned for a year around that time, thats why i asked, it would make sense..

[Seraphita]

Melvin The Narcissist님이 먼저 게시:

There you again acting like you know better yet keep on making excuses on why you are right and everyone else is just wrong. This isn't just about that thread either, YOU and the others keep on ganging up on every post you people don't like. And yes, you can and should block me but you won't, because you love this stuff. you love to "troll the trolls" and feel better about each other when there is someone to kick around.

You guys are so triggered by other people's opinions that you just can't help yourself to keep baiting/belittling at others and then get upset when called out on it. When your ban is finished, watch how you will just start right up again and white knighting your buddies for their toxicity.

Thanks for proving me right here once again to the public on how your contradictions elude you.

First of all, we're aren't in your kindergarden anymore. This is Steam's general forum and so it means that your fantasies might draw more attention from the mods than it will in the FF14 forum. Mayhaps if you took 5 mins to consider what kind of people get "ganged"...

All threads who supposedly got ganged (or factually speaking, got called out for their ridiculous purpose), were horrible threads complaining like karens about things that just don't seem to fit what they want in a game that doesn't seem made for them. So you know.

You can fight me here all you want but if you want to challenge me about arguments, you'll have to back them up with something more solid than "You're all toxic because I decided so." you're the same guy who called everyone a "toxic cult hivemind". Not toxic at all. lol...

It's ironic that you are as toxic as you claim others are. Sure, I'll be calling out bad threads again because why wouldn't I be? It's a steam discussion forum and pointing out the flaws in people's arguments is a way to debate them. Then they get offended and they lie...

If you have contradictions to make light on, go ahead. But this is also a game that plays with two people. I can easily point out toxic posts in your history and we'd just "show to the public" the truth about everything. You cannot delete posts in a locked thread, btw.

Melvin The Narcissist님이 먼저 게시:

Or you could stop buying and paying the people who you complain about and move on... we know you dont want too, its all open air talk in hopes someone can agree about your ban.

Cute but nonsensical. Nobody was actually discussing the ban itself except you... =/

[Tito Shivan]

MISTER BONK님이 먼저 게시:

This was how I started having trouble outside of STEAM. 2 years ago you will probably remember the moderator who posted a list of users they didn't like on Reddit encouraging their friends to harass them on here.

Can you actually post the link to the thread? I'm actually curious

KalCuey님이 먼저 게시:

that would be the volunteer mods that are no longer here

Doubtful. It would have been brought to the attention of the rest of mods and I do not remember anything like that.

[NeuroticSlav]

Definitely, i feel like it comes with territory of being moderator and what kind of people are attracted to this position.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

Hitsuran님이 먼저 게시:

Definitely, i feel like it comes with territory of being moderator and what kind of people are attracted to this position.

I can't speak for Steam but in the circles I moved mods positions were chosen from the populace on virtue of their contributions/helpfulness etc not applied for.

indeed anyone who asked to be a mod was always rejected.

this mostly solved the above issue.

[NeuroticSlav]

-OrLoK- Слава Україн님이 먼저 게시:

Hitsuran님이 먼저 게시:

Definitely, i feel like it comes with territory of being moderator and what kind of people are attracted to this position.

I can't speak for Steam but in the circles I moved mods positions were chosen from the populace on virtue of their contributions/helpfulness etc not applied for.

indeed anyone who asked to be a mod was always rejected.

this mostly solved the above issue.

Im pretty sure you aint talking about big ones like Facebook,Reddit etc, i was mod too in small gaming community, and small communities seems like they ceirtanly are more prone select proper people instead of insecure power hungy biased loosers.

[Seraphita]

-OrLoK- Слава Україн님이 먼저 게시:

indeed anyone who asked to be a mod was always rejected.

Funny thing is, this has always been true everywhere to my knowledge. On every websites I have been or every mmos (Private or other), you just should never ask to be a mod unless there is specifically a kind of recruit thing for them. It just doesn't look good to ask.

Being a mod requires to at least know the system, know the people, know the rules. You have to have been there for a while. In many cases, the communication between mods and users made the place friendlier as well. Rarely anyone got banned. Life was beautiful.

Hitsuran님이 먼저 게시:

Im pretty sure you aint talking about big ones like Facebook,Reddit etc, i was mod too in small gaming community, and small communities seems like they ceirtanly are more prone select proper people instead of insecure power hungy biased loosers.

Sounds about right. Reddit and Facebook are indeed huge. Worse mods make worse users and vice versa. I think Steam is at this point where it's simply so big that it makes things hard to manage properly. Users are completely out of control and so are mods sometimes.

[KiRA]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1994324035

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

KiRA (BLZ)님이 먼저 게시:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1994324035

I'm not sure it "proves" anything.

we need the surrounding context.

To me, at first glance it looks like a user being difficult.

[Seraphita]

KiRA (BLZ)님이 먼저 게시:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1994324035

Ouch. Interesting how an opinion can just lead to a ban. Disruptive behavior itself is not exactly in the rules or guidelines. At least it isn't until you start insulting people and causing drama. I heard Killah was ruthless when it came to bans. I guess this does prove it...

This is not the kind of bans you'll see outside of steam unless moderators really go out of their way to be jerks with you. And I don't mean on Reddit. Only in Steam do I really see this kind of thing happening. It's rather interesting how we can just be punished at will.

[PocketYoda]

KiRA (BLZ)님이 먼저 게시:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1994324035

I wondered if it was that guy.. I have no idea how he got to be a mod. I remember him.