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The real question here is how (if it hasn't downloaded yet) does it crash my drive if it hasn't transferred any Data yet? Also why is this a 3rd party app and why does Steam not take ownership and more importantly responsibility for it running on our systems??
I'm so sick of this, I run my own server but so far I've had in total about 2 hrs on it due to this issue, Steam Support? all but mute on this subject.
This does not relate to the question of how it downloads when a time has been specified for downloads to take place 3am-5am and also as you can see from my post my game lasted 34 mins before this update appeared and crashed the drive.
I've BEEN having this issue for years!
Spanning several different systems.
I thought I'd give STEAM time to get their stuff together, but it seems they haven't found this issue important enough.
To reiterate;
I have Auto-update during play set to OFF.
YET, without fail, whatever game I'm playing will either crash or hang, and as soon as it does I know exactly what happened. STEAM has updated something DESPITE being told NOT to do so in the settings.
This has even happened with STEAM set to Off-line mode.
STEAM doesn't even have to download anything. Whatever, application they are using to send download notifications, is causing this issue.
MY system, it's configuration, and/or details are irrelevant.
This issue is repeatable, and well documented.
*And YES, HDD data and SSD data-corruption is highly likely, if your applications keep getting forcibly interrupted like this.
I suggest STEAM violently pull their heads out of whatever nether-region it may be firmly stuck, and address this issue.
As soon as customers figure out what has cost them all this aggravation, time, and money, things could get VERY expensive for Valve/Steam quick.
Again the steamworks repo basically never updates
https://steamdb.info/app/228980/history/
The last update to the repository was 3 months ago.
The local install will only update under very specific circumstances. The local packages you have installed are dynamic. It doesn't install the entire repository, only the ones that your local games are configured for. As
1) If the repo updates, which almost never happens
2) You install a game, which requires a distributable which you don't already have locally installed
3) A game makes an update where it migrates from a local version of a distributable to using the centralized repo.
while #3 does happen, its mostly rare and given there are very few actual packages most games use. also redistributables are mostly things older-ish games do. These days because DotNet and vcredist are functionally all 'backwards compatible', and most modern games use windows 10, they basically have stopped even bothering to install the old vcredist/dotnet stuff because they know its already installed.
Note also the repo itself doesnt install anything. It just makes the files available locally which is then invoked when you install a game that requires something in there. The repo itself is functionally static files that does nothing.
Given your entire computer and harddrive were utterly borked, I'm not sure why you think the redistributables repo is the 'cause' of anything. The 'repo' did not cause the corruption. Your computer is totally and utterly messed up. That's why.
This is costly, both in Time, Money, and the hours of aggravation involved in trying to diagnose and alleviate this issue.
I would suggest re-reading the OP, and mine. If you can actually pull that off, you will see that Repository updates are NOT the problem.
We know that.
They know that, and soon, You will know that.
I can tell you one reason it is not
Its not the redistributables repository
If your system is borked, you need to figure out why that is as that's a local problem. The redisributable repo cant 'bork' your system because by definition it doesn't run unless you install a game.
What I DO KNOW is that STEAM download notifications during game-play, WILL CRASH YOUR GAME, AND TRASH YOUR HDD AND/OR SDD and they will become increasingly corrupted and/or "Borked" over time.
Again no it wont
Redistributables doesnt do anything when it downloads. It literally no different than if you had set a game to update while you're playing. Its just making HTTP connections to download files. That's it. You might as well claim that a website refreshing in the background was causing the same thing.
It will not
1) crash your game
2) trash your HDD
If any of those things are happening, its not because of the redistributables, its because you're computer was hosed before.
I force quit DayZ and right after the launcher shutdown I looked over to my other monitor at my download page in my account (I was watching and waiting for this to happen) and sure enough up pops SWCR download. After installing DayZ and then all 35 mods to Steam Library the obligatory SWCR download was there (which was fine as it should be after installing the game) so I let it download and install and started DayZ. By the way are you paying attention to the fact that I was able to download 80GB worth of game and mods to my SSD without a hitch??
I digress, so.. what was the question again? Oh, that's right, (you'd all better get a drink and snacks for the next part)
1. Why would this piece of S$@#! 3rd party application circumvent restrictions placed on downloads, such as set downloading of auto updates to between 3am - 5am? (you seem to let this one slip through to the keeper in your replies)
2. Why does the mere appearance of this SWCR update on my list crash my game and drive?? (let's not start pointing fingers at my hardware again as it just finished installing over 80GB of data and was doing just fine) until this arrived on the scene.
3.Why after already being downloaded and installed before I even started the game does it then reappear in my list 45 mins later?? By your argument/reasoning and attempt to rationalise this issue to us plebs out here in the Steam prison camp "it can't happen!!" (cue the sound of tin cups scraping along bars and wild screaming and shouting) MIC DROP!!!
Would you not even entertain the fact of possible conflicts with Windows Updates interfering with this 3rd party crap (why is this not owned by Steam so they can take responsibility for it.. I mishit a key just then and it was kinda appropriate "ruining" running on our systems) Considering this application deals with MS products and system installers and applications, would it not be feasible to consider Windows Updates introducing ways of attempting to block procedures this app is trying to implement seeing it as a possible threat to the system files?
THANK YOU, if you hadn't come forward I would've started to believe the crap this guy and Steam Support have been trying to make me swallow. I know it is this applications fault as it's.. (Cue Jesse Pinkman voice) SCIENCE!, it's repeatable, which is the definition of what science is.
It only happens when this application appears on the scene. Unfortunately (maybe due to a final utterly frustrated "thanks for nothing" this was Steam Supports signing off :
Hey there,
If your drive is not detected by your OS after game crashes occur, the issue seems to lie outside Steam. We first suggest reaching out to bohemia support for further information and support with their game:
https://help.steampowered.com/wizard/HelpWithGameTechnicalIssue/?appid=221100
If they are unable to resolve the issue, we can only suggest reaching out to Microsoft Support or a local PC technician to further troubleshoot as issues like these require direct access to your machine, which is a level of assistance we simply cannot attain here at Steam Support.
I'm sorry we can't be of more help with this.
If you have an unrelated issue please reply here and I'll be happy to help.
Steam Support
Kelson
Each time I have had to deal with yet another Steam representative (BOT?) with over a dozen communications over the last few days giving as much informative details for them to consider but in the back of my neck the hairs are rising and I get the feeling that with each reply that I should be fastening my seat belt as I'm heading towards a very large brick wall.
So Steam's answer, your problem, you fix it.
My reply to Steam, again, THANKS FOR NOTHING.
Steam will not 'hose' your hard drive by downloading a static file from a website
Do not confuse correlation, with causation
Your issue is with your computer and you should concern yourself why a simple HTTP download is causing your hard drive to be 'hosed'.
Steam is not sending your hard drive magical EMP shocks to destroy it.
An application cannot 'hose' your hard drive. Even the jankiest SSD has a MTBF and write cycles that you'd have to be writing literally terabytes of data every day for it to be relevant. Steam is not 'killing' your drive. something else is, and you should think about what that could be. Because its not steam.
Over a six year period?
Repeatable...!
Predictable...!
Reliable...!
Unavoidable...!
And NOW, documented.
Your welcome, Badboybubby.
Thank YOU, for coming forward and speaking on this issue.
Many have already thrown up their hands after going through this "gas-lighting" experience.
Best we keep their feet to the fire.
Still no answer for this application being able to circumvent download settings on your account??
Still no answer for the repeated downloads appearing in my list ???
Even though it has already been downloaded and installed, contrary to your assertion that this won't happen as it only installs itself on installation of a game or when it requires to update components, so after 45 mins it has to do another download?? You're ignoring the real issue here, why is it reappearing after already saying to clear it as it's been completed??
READ THE POST THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING not just a figment of my imagination or paranoia wanting to blame everything else but my SSD. This is a repeatable issue directly correlated to SWCR, why won't you even entertain the concept?