Need a steam deck price drop

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reason being is after watching some videos of steam deck it has become clear that steam deck is actually being used to steam link and remote play high end games in alot of the videos

this is misrepresenting the actual ability of steam decks hardware

steam deck will run low demanding games great

it can not however run demanding high end titles directly it can only steam link remote play them when a more powerful computer is actually running the game.

for this reason i believe that users deserve a fair price for this piece of hardware

reasonable price

200 dollars for the low end model
300 for the mid range
400 for the expanded range

this is my opinion because if you really want the steam deck to succeed you need to get it to the players you need to not get stuck with hardware that is quickly becoming out dated and you need a player base that can use it.

currently steam deck is not for everyone it is a low grade hand held desktop computer, it is not a gaming pc it does not have the hardware capable of handling high end games.

you might not like it but i don't think customers will like buying something that none of the games they want to play will work on. it will lead to mistrust and misrepresentation to the customer that will ultimately create failure.

best of luck with this to steam marketing i will look foward to your price drop and to possibly owning your hardware.

[loppantorkel]

From what I can tell, OP has minimum leverage in asking for a price drop. Steam Deck seems like a success so far, but maybe it's tapering off. In the end I have no interest at all in acquiring one, regardless of cost.

[Corona Varus]

I saw some disgusting people buying cheap ones buying them at 400 dollars, then reselling them for 800 dollars.

[Haruspex]

引用自 loppantorkel：

From what I can tell, OP has minimum leverage in asking for a price drop. Steam Deck seems like a success so far, but maybe it's tapering off. In the end I have no interest at all in acquiring one, regardless of cost.

Which is fine. It's not for everyone. Some people already have a decent gaming PC and never foresee themselves in a situation where a portable one would be useful. I can certainly respect that.

Personally I would be shocked if they don't have plans to start selling through general retail once supply gets ahead of demand enough selling just through Steam. I expect the Steam Deck will be an effort to expand the Steam audience, and that's hard to do when you only sell to Steam users. If they get this thing selling through Amazon, Gamestop, Target, and Walmart, on shelves right next to the Nintendo Switch systems, that's when we'll start seeing that expansion I think. Sell to Steam users first, iron out all the kinks, get the experience as perfect as possible, then release to the unwashed masses.

[CJM]

引用自 8bitbeard：

Personally I would be shocked if they don't have plans to start selling through general retail...

...Gamestop, Target, and Walmart, on shelves right next to the Nintendo Switch systems, that's when we'll start seeing that expansion I think.

Is that smart, though?

Getting it to Store Shelves means you have to have supply in the pipeline that gets marked down when it doesn't sell. Steam is already not making a profit on the Deck, a retail store shelf release could put the launch into the red. The production is optimized currently.

On a store shelf the Steam Deck stands out a LOT less. There are no cartridges or discs to give you an idea of the gameplay experience you will be getting. The PC Games on the shelves are not typically Steam copies. Publishers are not selling Steam Digital Copies with 32GB SD Cards.

The Steam Deck stands out most on YouTube, or similar social media sites where Steam is a trending or viral topic.

[Haruspex]

引用自 CJM：

Getting it to Store Shelves means you have to have supply in the pipeline that gets marked down when it doesn't sell. Steam is already not making a profit on the Deck, a retail store shelf release could put the launch into the red. The production is optimized currently.

I had considered that, so you're right in that it makes no sense right now. I think with decreased costs as time goes on, plus the cost benefits of economies of scale, it could start to make more sense.

I might be over-enthusiastic thinking it will be on store shelves at Walmart. While that would be good to see, more limited retail partners would probably make more sense, at least initially. Kind of like how they sold Steam Controllers and the Index at Gamestop in Australia.

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i looked online last night for used hardly used steam decks, i seen a few broken ones selling with cracked screens, a huge amount of preused and hardly enjoyed ones, a couple over priced low end models.

many and i mean many hardly used steam decks for sale online like ebay, people seem to buy it and then realize they either don't like it , can't return it, don't have a use for it. the things not even a year old.

[CJM]

引用自 New Login for Fallout76：

many and i mean many hardly used steam decks for sale online like ebay, people seem to buy it and then realize they either don't like it , can't return it, don't have a use for it. the things not even a year old.

I'm only seeing 568 Decks on eBay right now.

No matter how you slice it, 568 is not "many and I mean many". We're talking about 568 against a 100,000,000 unit market potential.

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im gonna be honest there is a real number of steam decks that steam manufactured , there is a paper trail of the, they didn't make 100 million units, with that shoty build, that would be almost complete business failure.

most likely they did 20,000 or 50,000 units for the first build to see how they sell see the market potential, the could always make more. even the thought of them making 1 million units at the orginal build design is a bad market move.

ive sighted a few improvements in just a few days of research , this is why we manufacture small batches, get feed back then produce 2nd and or 3rd generation devices.

you know steam isn't dumb enough to mass produce something that has a limited window of hardware timeline.

[Haruspex]

引用自 CJM：

引用自 New Login for Fallout76：

many and i mean many hardly used steam decks for sale online like ebay, people seem to buy it and then realize they either don't like it , can't return it, don't have a use for it. the things not even a year old.

I'm only seeing 568 Decks on eBay right now.

No matter how you slice it, 568 is not "many and I mean many". We're talking about 568 against a 100,000,000 unit market potential.

Yeah, and of those 568 results, they're not even all Steam Decks. Just scrolling through I see a 1 TB USB-C thumb drive for $250, a 512 GB SD card for $165, a dock stand thing, the 64 GB eMMC drive pulled out of the low end model (probably after an upgrade), and the Jsaux protective shell. Many of the actual Decks being sold are attempts at scalping with giant markups, and yes, a few are used being sold for a reasonable price.

It's reasonable for a few people to excitedly buy the shiny new thing, only to realize after they have it that they don't use it as much as they thought they would. Even fewer are those who bought it thinking it was something it's not. I've used the, "buying a waffle maker to make espresso" analogy a couple times now.

Edit:
And a quick correction. Last numbers show Valve has sold over 1 million Decks, not 100 million. And that's sold, not made. They're not sitting in those warehouses for long. They even had to reactivate the wait list for the 64 GB model this last holiday. (Didn't stop Fallout 76 guy from calling it fake news though.)

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but the idea of espresso flavored waffles is amazing, which would require both a espresso maker and a waffle machine, much like high end portable gaming really requires a gaming computer and a mobile portable to stream it,

sure you can get away with just 1 everyone who wants a waffle kinda needs a waffle machine, you could make espresso with boiling water , and some fresh ground coffee tape a filter to a cup with a rubber band an pour the boiling water over the coffee grounds

comparison if my android device can stream , like a steak deck, its basicly a espresso cup machine, steam decks the expensive espresso machine, and of course your PC is the waffle maker. without a PC (waffle) maker your just not getting high end gaming (waffles) you can get some pancakes they are floppy or make crepes with a little sugar.

but you know a boiled cup of espresso with a filter and a cup (android) isn't that bad, since a espresso machine (Steam deck) costs 100's of dollars.

[Haruspex]

引用自 New Login for Fallout76：

Nonsensical rambling...

What?

[CJM]

引用自 8bitbeard：

引用自 New Login for Fallout76：

Nonsensical rambling...

What?

He's complaining that the Steam Deck plays games locally, rather than streaming them like his Android.

He says the Steam Deck should only cost $100 to $200 and be a Steam Link.

引用自 8bitbeard：

Edit:
And a quick correction. Last numbers show Valve has sold over 1 million Decks, not 100 million.

I'm taking bets on what the final number will be. 1 million for Valve is an impressive number, but 15 to 20 million is more realistic. I am not entirely ruling out 100 million.

[76561199281265327]

Espresso machine (steam deck ) 400-700 dollars
Waffle machine (Gaming Pc) 20 dollars (2000 dollars )
Using a Cup , filter and boiling water to make espresso (the cost off the coffee)

Mixing Espresso into your Waffle batter to make Espresso Waffles (Priceless)

Using a Gaming PC to stream to SteamDeck (Increases the life of the steam deck and keeps the processing low while increasing the battery life of the SteamDeck)

Watching People with 1000's of steam games cry over a SteamDeck sale (Priceless)

Helping Steam Supporters get a chance to purchase a SteamDeck at a nonprofit price
(good Marketing)

I get it, most of you are against helping players , you would rather over pay for things that aren't great, and then replace them with things that are worse a few years later, totally get That. But i can't let common sense get flushed down the toilet just because someone wants to Profit off others bad choices.

[Crazy Tiger]

When I'm (far) away from home, I prefer to have games installed locally. Streaming isn't a good option while travelling either.

[Bee🐝]

引用自 New Login for Fallout76：

the serious price drop is for the actual life time use of the battery that will over heat and is already causing heating issues and poor use of the device life, the design of open hole between the lcd which heats up and the battery which heat ups is a issue, also there is no heat transfer away from the battery, only the processor, a second vent , fan system needs to run to keep the battery cooled down, might wanna have a new back panel printed out that will hold a fan and a larger battery that is easier to swap , continued use of steam dock will also lead to the Usb C charger port breakign which is not replaceable and will render the device worthless.

real issues are replaceble USB C connection and heat transfer, battery life and over all customer satifacation an quality of device life.

steam knows the issues , those are just some of the actual physical device issues, the software issues aren't even into consideration yet.

Ok, seems you misunderstood me, can you actually list the serious design flaws - note the plural as you implied - along with a credible source. That would be a entity like Linus Tech Tips, Gamer Nexus or Digital Foundry.

A credible source for your “battery overheating” claims would be nice.