New games are copy paste.

[VythanLe]

I'm sure all oldschool gamers know that in comparison to, say, 2005, there are no real "Next Gen" games coming out.

There is an ocean of rewash Bullcrap.

World of warcraft is still alive, which is like playing everquest in 2010, Valorant is a game literally copy and pasted from CS and reskinned with a few special moves, and 7 maps after 3 years.
The upcoming "Blue protocol MMORPG" is just another copy paste korean field boss MMO.

Most DOOM wads are more intricate than these pieces of garbage.

My point here is that I don't think that players should be feeding their wages to these people.
They aren't trying, and are just copying and pasting, like hollywood.
They think they can fool you out of your money by being lazy devs, meanwhile there are quality games made by people that get little attention and no cash support (DOOM Ashes 2063 standalone, Sonic Robo Kart, My bawls in yo jaws)

The thing is there is a lot of new technology, Accurig auto rigs characters bones and has thousands of preset animations, you can make animations with a camera on your home pc now,
theres Unreal Nanite which boosts rendering performance AND makes the game look better (which is handy for games that have render limits for performance like minecraft)
Nanite could be applied to voxels, theres voxels, theres octrees, etc.

You get none of that, you get a crap game thats copy paste, been out for 3 years with 7 maps and it is 80 dollars for a pack of skins (valorant).

Kartrider came out today and I was looking through the forums, They couldn't read the giant text that says the games servers come up at 6 pm today, and then some idiot thought that 6 pm PST meant that he had to wait 6 hours because his timezone said 12 (he does not understand the sun moves)

So basically, be smart or be stupid chumps.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

Closing thread, But just a friendly reminder that we are all surrounded by NPCs, strange creatures that believe that their opinion is always the topic. They pull in the others, and try to feed on all intelligence in the surrounding area.

There was no intelligence to originate with, just a bad faith topic trying to cite CLONE copy/paste games as indie originals.

[SVaughan]

Having grown up on MMORPGs and even RTS's, I can't agree with your assessment that all games are copy and paste. But you arguing with people then calling them trolls, makes any chance of a civil conversation impossible.

With the literal exception of StarCraft (Which is an RTS), and a number of Realism-based FPS games (Hell Let Loose, Post Scriptum, Squad, Insurgency Sandstorm, Arma 3), there's some odd 2,000 or so games out there, and I've played maybe a fraction of that, and never once saw anything that was a copy/paste (Except Call of Duty and Battlefield, those are both pure Copy/Paste games).

Fun fact, majority of current games that are popular (And ones you enjoy) are copy/paste as well. EQ is a copy/paste of Baulders Gate. And even then those are a copy/paste of the old tech games that ran on the Command Prompt for Windows. The literal only game that isn't copy/paste, or should I say games, are the OG Atari games. Or even OG Pac-Man from the 50's (Yes that's the era when games became a thing). At that point everything we enjoy now is a copy of the OG games from the 20th Century.

[VythanLe]

You forgot that the whole point of the thread is there is no revolutionary new games, that's why my steam account is full of OLD and unrevolutionary games. (because there is none to get)

I don't buy skins on valorant, by the way. but yes, I will continue to play old series.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

You forgot that the whole point of the thread is there is no revolutionary new games, that's why my steam account is full of OLD and unrevolutionary games. (because there is none to get)

I don't buy skins on valorant, by the way. but yes, I will continue to play old series.

Again, a huge portion of the games you enjoy, likely were clones/copies too.

Like Sonic Robo Kart for example.

[Boblin the Goblin]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

You forgot that the whole point of the thread is there is no revolutionary new games, that's why my steam account is full of OLD and unrevolutionary games. (because there is none to get)

I don't buy skins on valorant, by the way. but yes, I will continue to play old series.

You were given examples of games that are pretty revolutionary to their genre. "Revolutionary" doesn't mean "completely new".

After all, TLOU is just a cinematic RPG. Just like Uncharted which had it beat by 6 years.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

I mean, OP quite literally lists a Doom-like as an "original indie game" and fails to see the irony in the actual term Doom-like, and why it's a phrase in gaming.

Next he's going to cite a metroidvania, and say new metroid games "are hollow copies."

[Boblin the Goblin]

Leonardo Da Pinchi님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, OP quite literally lists a Doom-like as an "original indie game" and fails to see the irony in the actual term Doom-like, and why it's a phrase in gaming.

Next he's going to cite a metroidvania, and say new metroid games "are hollow copies."

Speaking of metroidvania, Hollow Knight was pretty revolutionary with the combat, atmosphere, and art direction.

[VythanLe]

KittenGrindr님이 먼저 게시:

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

You forgot that the whole point of the thread is there is no revolutionary new games, that's why my steam account is full of OLD and unrevolutionary games. (because there is none to get)

I don't buy skins on valorant, by the way. but yes, I will continue to play old series.

You were given examples of games that are pretty revolutionary to their genre. "Revolutionary" doesn't mean "completely new".

After all, TLOU is just a cinematic RPG. Just like Uncharted which had it beat by 6 years.

PS: Online forums are not a place where you go to put your teenage angst on people and tell them about how much you disagree with them.
When you find something that is not on the topic you support, you avoid it.
When you find something that is an agreeable topic, you click it.

Double reported.

[SVaughan]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

Apparently this guy has a history of arguing and offing the topic of threads, steam mods please do something about him.

This is supposed to be a thread about lazy devs and lack of effort put into games, which every knows is true. Fanboys trying to pull everyone down to autistic level (with a history of doing so)
does not ever move the human race forward.

Now the thread has 3 of his bandwagoners.

If you're trolling, you're horrible at it.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

KittenGrindr님이 먼저 게시:

Leonardo Da Pinchi님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, OP quite literally lists a Doom-like as an "original indie game" and fails to see the irony in the actual term Doom-like, and why it's a phrase in gaming.

Next he's going to cite a metroidvania, and say new metroid games "are hollow copies."

Speaking of metroidvania, Hollow Knight was pretty revolutionary with the combat, atmosphere, and art direction.

It was very much so.

[Aachen]

When you use the adjective “revolutionary,” what does it indicate to you?

And why need games be so, anyway? Why should your personal yearnings drive the development of video games?

What did you think of Death Stranding?

[VythanLe]

Leonardo Da Pinchi님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, OP quite literally lists a Doom-like as an "original indie game" and fails to see the irony in the actual term Doom-like, and why it's a phrase in gaming.

Next he's going to cite a metroidvania, and say new metroid games "are hollow copies."

Your new title is "The one who failed it, Leonardo, Who didn't know what a WAD was."

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

KittenGrindr님이 먼저 게시:

You were given examples of games that are pretty revolutionary to their genre. "Revolutionary" doesn't mean "completely new".

After all, TLOU is just a cinematic RPG. Just like Uncharted which had it beat by 6 years.

PS: Online forums are not a place where you go to put your teenage angst on people and tell them about how much you disagree with them.
When you find something that is not on the topic you support, you avoid it.
When you find something that is an agreeable topic, you click it.

Double reported.

Only angsty person here is you, but go on. This is an open forum, not an echo chamber.

[Boblin the Goblin]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

KittenGrindr님이 먼저 게시:

You were given examples of games that are pretty revolutionary to their genre. "Revolutionary" doesn't mean "completely new".

After all, TLOU is just a cinematic RPG. Just like Uncharted which had it beat by 6 years.

PS: Online forums are not a place where you go to put your teenage angst on people and tell them about how much you disagree with them.
When you find something that is not on the topic you support, you avoid it.
When you find something that is an agreeable topic, you click it.

Double reported.

You posted on the public forums. Anyone who has access to these forums is able to respond. They don't have to agree with you. They don't have to say they agree with you. They can point out flaws in your post.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

VythanLe님이 먼저 게시:

Leonardo Da Pinchi님이 먼저 게시:

I mean, OP quite literally lists a Doom-like as an "original indie game" and fails to see the irony in the actual term Doom-like, and why it's a phrase in gaming.

Next he's going to cite a metroidvania, and say new metroid games "are hollow copies."

Your new title is "The one who failed it, Leonardo, Who didn't know what a WAD was."

Guess what, still clones, AKA unoriginal copies by your own standards.