Must have the game or 2 hours+ play time to buy emojis, etc from the point shop.

[Altanore]

I just don't understand this restriction. Could be just me but I think people won't buy a game just to have some emojis. I think people would discover and possibly buy a game after seeing said emojis and wondering what game it is from. Agree or Disagree?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Altanore:

Must have the game or 2 hours+ play time to buy emojis, etc from the point shop.

I just don't understand this restriction. Could be just me but I think people won't buy a game just to have some emojis. I think people would discover and possibly buy a game after seeing said emojis and wondering what game it is from. Agree or Disagree?

Points Shop items for most games are limited to owners who are not going to just refund the game after getting the items.

[Altanore]

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Originally posted by Altanore:

Must have the game or 2 hours+ play time to buy emojis, etc from the point shop.

I just don't understand this restriction. Could be just me but I think people won't buy a game just to have some emojis. I think people would discover and possibly buy a game after seeing said emojis and wondering what game it is from. Agree or Disagree?

Points Shop items for most games are limited to owners who are not going to just refund the game after getting the items.

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Well wouldn't have to worry about that if everyone could buy any emoji from any game anyway. I am just thinking more along the lines as emojis (or stickers, or w/e) as being free advertising basically. If they set it up in a way to link to said game it is from.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by Altanore:

Originally posted by cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

Points Shop items for most games are limited to owners who are not going to just refund the game after getting the items.

Well wouldn't have to worry about that if everyone could buy any emoji from any game anyway. I am just thinking more along the lines as emojis (or stickers, or w/e) as being free advertising basically. If they set it up in a way to link to said game it is from.

Incentives to purchase the game.

It's just another way to lure you into buying games, just like free cosmetics for purchasing games.

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

you can still buy emoticon on the market
without owning the game which a lot of people do...

and i have emoticons that i have no idea what
game they belong too as i just did a search on
the market and got it without any link to the game..

[Altanore]

Originally posted by ragefifty50:

you can still buy emoticon on the market
without owning the game which a lot of people do...

and i have emoticons that i have no idea what
game they belong too as i just did a search on
the market and got it without any link to the game..

I have noticed this as well but most don't allow you to. More so with emojis though, not stickers.
So I am guessing the owner of the game can have the option to have this restriction or not maybe?

I'm not saying at all I am a marketing expert lol just sharing an opinion

[( ( < < <🤖> > > ) )]

the point shop is a selling tool steam use for people that
want to sell games... not for people that want to buy games...

if you could get everything from the point shop
without owning the game there would be no marketing
just choices with no obligation to buy buy buy

[Crazy Tiger]

Items exclusive to the points shop are free for everybody. That are the animated backgrounds, mini backgrounds, avatars and avatar frames, for example.
The stuff you can also get in the community market, static backgrounds and emoticons, those have the restrictions of game ownership and 2 hours playtime.

The latter restriction has been put in because people were buying games and refunding them to buy the emoticons and static backgrounds in the points shop.

The restriction is not opt-in, it's set by Steam: https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/marketing/tradingcards

Steam Points Shop

With the introduction of the Points Shop, there is now a more direct way for users to acquire these items. Users must own the product and have at least two hours worth of playtime in it before they can redeem Steam Points for emoticons or static profile backgrounds.

[J4MESOX4D]

If such restrictions weren't in place, users would buy the game, earn Steam points, use those points in the shop to buy the items and then refund the game.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

If such restrictions weren't in place, users would buy the game, earn Steam points, use those points in the shop to buy the items and then refund the game.

So?

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

If such restrictions weren't in place, users would buy the game, earn Steam points, use those points in the shop to buy the items and then refund the game.

So?

So the developers would then lose a sale just so the user can get some items for free. The points shop is in place to incentive purchases - not for users to screw the developers in the hope of getting virtual stuff off them to bolster their profile. Also Valve wouldn't have to do rollbacks like they did before which got awfully messy with users in minus statuses.

[zaphodikus]

It's dead easy to just start a game, and leave it running for 2 hours, while you do something else.

Instant gratification culture inevitably will clash with common refunder abuses. the price we have to pay for refunders. Not the biggest problem in the land.

[PocketYoda]

Originally posted by J4MESOX4D:

Originally posted by PocketYoda:

So?

So the developers would then lose a sale just so the user can get some items for free. The points shop is in place to incentive purchases - not for users to screw the developers in the hope of getting virtual stuff off them to bolster their profile. Also Valve wouldn't have to do rollbacks like they did before which got awfully messy with users in minus statuses.

Customers screw the developers way less than publishers and companies ever could, a few free emojis is not gonna make a difference.

[kitt]

the least Valve could do is to finally ad some fricking filters. Why show me crap I can't buy with the points. I'm not going to play that game j ust because there is an Emote or something I might would like to buy.


but I guess everyone at Valve is busy making the store more crappy..

[zaphodikus]

Originally posted by kitt:

the least Valve could do is to finally ad some fricking filters. Why show me crap I can't buy with the points. I'm not going to play that game j ust because there is an Emote or something I might would like to buy.


but I guess everyone at Valve is busy making the store more crappy..

there is an external website that help a little with this - yes the filters are pretty poor, but that was not the point, the point was why valve don't want the friction of messy refunders and how refunders are forcing them to add a rule that hurts us all.