muckymucks 6 ENE 2023 a las 21:15
8 of the 10 best selling games worldwide are "free"
Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




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FOXDUDE69 9 ENE 2023 a las 20:33 
Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:

It's common knowledge that these gambling sites are enabled through Steam's API. Perhaps you weren't aware.
So, having an API is enabling gambling sites. OK. Good luck upholding that one anywhere more serious than these forums.

I dunno man, when good game journalists look into the matter, they seem to come to the same conclusions that I do, the difference is, I didn't need to talk to Valve's employees to figure it out why Valve doesn't do anything about the issue, because it should be pretty obvious if you follow things to their logical conclusion. The more gambling sites there are, and the bigger they are, the more Valve profits from skins.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMmNy11Mn7g

Worth a watch.
Última edición por FOXDUDE69; 9 ENE 2023 a las 20:37
Tito Shivan 10 ENE 2023 a las 0:32 
Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
when good game journalists look into the matter.
May want to double check that definition.
Bob the Boomer 10 ENE 2023 a las 4:53 
Publicado originalmente por muckymucks:
Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Dota 2
Apex Legends™
Lost Ark
PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS
War Thunder
Destiny 2
Warframe

Funny thing is I have them all on ignore list but during the sales they showed up, I guess marketing is more important than a custom filter list
Blupanda 10 ENE 2023 a las 5:10 
Publicado originalmente por muckymucks:
Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Dota 2
Apex Legends™
Lost Ark
PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS
War Thunder
Destiny 2
Warframe

Sadly, you are correct. There is not much consistency between what gamers say and what gamers do. Reminds me of how EA said in a recent quarterly financial report that nearly 80% of their revenue was from microtransactions. Way too high.

As for me, most of my games are the traditional buy to play model. Yes I play a small handful of F2P games like Path of Exile and Dungeons and Dragons Online, but I play these games because I like the setting and gameplay, not because of their F2P systems. If Path of Exile was buy to play I would play it the same as I do now.
Blupanda 10 ENE 2023 a las 5:14 
Publicado originalmente por Thermal Lance:
Well, I did buy a pack or two in Path of Exile. But, come'on... Some games are worth doing a couple purchases in. If anything, to show your appreciation toward the product you're sinking hours in.

Path of Exile’s micro transactions are good because they are mainly cosmetic. You don’t need to buy them to make your character stronger. I love that game.
Blupanda 10 ENE 2023 a las 5:19 
Publicado originalmente por McFlurry Butts:
I don't personally hate micro-transactions since they can keep games alive way past their prime. I hate rigged loot boxes and excessively overpriced items.

I feel the same way. Loot boxes are annoying because you never have control over the items you gain. For example you end up getting six copies of the Purple Dragon Helmet but never get the Purple Dragon Boots. So your character has mismatching equipment sets :crying_yeti: :surprised_yeti:
The Commendatore 10 ENE 2023 a las 5:37 
Warframe? Really?
Thermal Lance 10 ENE 2023 a las 5:42 
Publicado originalmente por Blupanda:
Publicado originalmente por Thermal Lance:
Well, I did buy a pack or two in Path of Exile. But, come'on... Some games are worth doing a couple purchases in. If anything, to show your appreciation toward the product you're sinking hours in.

Path of Exile’s micro transactions are good because they are mainly cosmetic. You don’t need to buy them to make your character stronger. I love that game.
Since im not a competitive player. Pay to win hardly affect me in most free-to-play games. But, lets not include mobile game because those borderline on pay to play.
Arson Aardvark 10 ENE 2023 a las 6:03 
You understand that microtransactions are often presented in a way that creates fear of missing out from the player, right? These systems are heavily influenced by the same principles that govern casino game design, who figure out how best to extract additional money from their customers after they've spent some just getting in the door. Just because players spend a lot of money on microtransactions does not mean they're not being taken advantage of. You do yourself a disservice generalizing every single person who picks up a video game, just as you do in most walks of life.
✯到ZZ⛧ 10 ENE 2023 a las 7:22 
Lol
FOXDUDE69 10 ENE 2023 a las 8:37 
Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
when good game journalists look into the matter.
May want to double check that definition.
Yeah, I guess some people wouldn't think of them as good game journalists because of they don't overly rely or misuse the word "problematic" or think of "gamer" as a derogative word.

I guess since you couldn't refute anything in the video, you just decided to dismiss it.

Either way, you should not need that video to be able to understand that it's Steam's API that enables these gambling websites, denying this is basically denying observable reality and there's no constructive debate that can be had that way. After all, if we are going deny the facts, what debate is there to be had?
Thermal Lance 10 ENE 2023 a las 8:41 
Publicado originalmente por Dumitrek:
Publicado originalmente por The Commendatore:
Warframe? Really?

Yep such a terrible game with censorship in their forums, bans for no reason and the game itself is a grind fest with no PvP and lots of bugs.
Opinions are like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Everybody got one.

I always considered it to be a fun game. Not one I would play 24/7, yes the grind is real but I mean... its a free game. What the bloody hell do you expect? Not everything can be Path of Exile and be successful. Ban for no reason? Citation needed. And bugs well... yknow... its not like we didnt have that COUGH COUGH problem in actual paid game right?

Let me guess, they are "sjws" and that got you mad?
Thermal Lance 10 ENE 2023 a las 8:45 
Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
Publicado originalmente por Tito Shivan:
May want to double check that definition.
Yeah, I guess some people wouldn't think of them as good game journalists because of they don't overly rely or misuse the word "problematic" or think of "gamer" as a derogative word.

I guess since you couldn't refute anything in the video, you just decided to dismiss it.

Either way, you should not need that video to be able to understand that it's Steam's API that enables these gambling websites, denying this is basically denying observable reality and there's no constructive debate that can be had that way. After all, if we are going deny the facts, what debate is there to be had?
Well, it took me like 30s to find WHY we can add API keys at all. 30 seconds. You should do that. That should wake you up as to why this is an option to users. And no being able to "disable it" would still not help anything when the user is already giving all his login infos to the nigerian prince.
Satoru 10 ENE 2023 a las 10:01 
Well thank you 'captain obvious' for your troll post

Yes unsurprisingly games that require constant high player populations of users in order to sustain themselves have OH MY GOD high player populations. As opposed to, well I dunno, single player games that do not have giant sustained tails because you know EVERYONE DOESNT NEED TO PLAY THEM ALL THE TIME

Wow what an incredible insight. Who would have thought that games that require large player counts to be sustainable, would have, *checks notes* high sustained player counts

And that popular single player games like Skyrim, Witcher, CP2077, Elden Ring, games that do not require massively sustained player counts, don't have high sustained player counts?

The only thing your 'hot take' tells anyone is that you're basically not actually very smart
Última edición por Satoru; 10 ENE 2023 a las 10:03
Tito Shivan 10 ENE 2023 a las 10:09 
Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
I guess since you couldn't refute anything in the video, you just decided to dismiss it.
I usually dismiss like 99.99% of stuff that comes from Youtube or Streamers.

Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
Yeah, I guess some people wouldn't think of them as good game journalists because of they don't overly rely or misuse the word "problematic" or think of "gamer" as a derogative word.
It's sweet how people assume things. No I don't think of those as 'good game journalists' either. Just something a little bit above the 'I has a youtube channel' bunch. Loads of overlap amongst those anyway.

Publicado originalmente por FOX6NINE:
Either way, you should not need that video to be able to understand that it's Steam's API that enables these gambling websites
Are you aware gambling sites still work without the API, right?

By extension of your reasoning, the very existance of Steam 'enables' gamling sites.

Let's randomly not mention the facts Steam (the ones who allegedy 'enable' those sites) routinely nukes those sites names and URLs off the community by filtering them and acting against users spamming and advertising them.

It's all the umpteen loaded debate fueled by anger towards Steam because that drives juicy clicks and visits to Youtube and 'gaming news' sites. Not really worth debating it for longer, as it's a giant with feet of clay.
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