8 of the 10 best selling games worldwide are "free"

[muckymucks]

Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Dota 2
Apex Legends™
Lost Ark
PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS
War Thunder
Destiny 2
Warframe

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Originally posted by muckymucks:

Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Dota 2
Apex Legends™
Lost Ark
PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS
War Thunder
Destiny 2
Warframe

I don't disagree.

[SVaughan]

I'm tempted to buy a wrist brace when I play Warframe. :)

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by Eiswolfin:

And that is just the ones on Steam, that doesn't include the even bigger games that beat all of those you listed:

Fortnite
Roblox
Minecraft
League of Legends

ROBLOX is a mess of broken stupidity. It doesn't deserve recognition.

[Annka]

:o

[JD777]

Gamers don't like micro transactions
Gamers play and use micro transactions
Gamers are hypocrites

I don't like microtransactions and don't play any of these so I'm not a gamer even though I play games. Most of my friends don't play these types of games.

So I'm allowed to complain? If I complain am I automatically a "gamer" and therefore a hypocrite?

[Chika Ogiue]

Originally posted by muckymucks:

Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.

Isn't it amazing what capturing the interest of a few whales can do for your profits. The majority of "gamers" that vocally announce their hatred of microtransactions are not the same as the whales who have enough disposable income that they couldn't care less how and where they throw it (and don't need to care). So in short, stop assuming that all "gamers" are the same. They aren't. And what one type of "gamer" does doesn't equate to what the other type does.

[kaibarnard]

Some of it is hating P2W any PvP game that sells a lot of power, is P2W

A lot of games the roadblocks mount up is 'grind this for 15 hours' or pay $5 - or 'push this weekend event for 10 hours or pay $5' or large chunks of 'bonus content' paywalled off that without - it's a fraction of a game

So yes the game is 'free' but you need to spend hours and hours at a time - or pay small little dips - these pay to progress type games are just soul crushing, and most are PvP as they need to keep the whales (and dolphins) playing and paying, you play for a bit they hope to get you hooked, you then start getting beaten down, they offer a 'beginners pack' that gets you a big boost, and then....you realise without spending $50 a month you're gonna just be farmed by the guy who is (who is trying to stave off the guys paying $250 a month)

The best ones are pay to speed up or pay for cosmetics

If you CAN make reasonable progress without paying, but paying pushes you further quicker, that's pay to progress or pay for speed, a F2P player can keep chugging in this game, if it's PvP the pay aspects don't give a direct bonus, if the only 'paid' elements are skins, graphics, cosmetics then it doesn't mater, if Whaley-O-Whale has the gold tanks, the reskinned walkers and his name in glittery gold.....and you have, Fr332play have ugly looking basic units, and no sparkles....but the powers equal so it's all tactics, that's fine, Whale can enjoy his pretties as you smash them (or not, depending on your skills)

They may have freed time to grind PvP bonuses, so it's rarely completely even - but pay for speed/pretty things is generally accepted

[[N]ebsun]

Originally posted by muckymucks:

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons.

Are those games top because of the micro-transactions though ?

Saying that "gamers" love micro-transactions, because the top games have them is not really valid..
Gamers like good games, and companies that make good games love money.
There are also many different types of "gamers" - such that, being a "gamer" is more of someone who plays games... "gamers" are not all the same, apart from that they are people who play games - which may be the only common factor.
You say you hate "gamers" - does that mean you hate all people who play games ? then why are you here ?

Those games are also all free... meaning no initial payment, opening them up to a wider market than games that have an upfront cost.
Maybe those games are not top because of micro-transactions, but because they are all initially "free".
I believe you have reached a spurious correlation - micro-transactions may not be correlated to the game being best selling.

How many paid games have micro-transactions ? and how well do those rank ?

[Supafly]

CSGO is the only 1 of those I play and the only skins I've ever bought were purchased from money I got selling skin and case drops. Sold all of them now as I rarely play them. CBA with multiplayer and all the idiots on voice nowadays.

I'm against

Loot crates. Thats gambling no matter how it gets spinned. Just provide all the potential items for a fee so people can buy those they want rather than the gambling.

Pay 2 win. Anything that gives users an advantage when they spend cash destroys the whoole point of gaming to me.

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by muckymucks:

Gamers love to complain about microtransactions. They're a cancer on the gaming industry, they say. Gamers also apparently love microtransactions because the Steam global selling chart shows 8 of the 10 best selling games are free-to-play.

I hate gamers, obviously, and this is just one of many reasons. So every time someone complains about microtransaction they've probably spent hundreds of dollars on said microtransactions.




Counter-Strike: Global Offensive
Dota 2
Apex Legends™
Lost Ark
PUBG: BATTLEGROUNDS
War Thunder
Destiny 2
Warframe

Not once have I spent money on any games. Maybe subscriptions. But not on microtransactions. I prefer to grind my way through. And do so.

[Tito Shivan]

As I've often said in these forums whenever monetization schemes are discussed:

"It takes two to tango"

MTXs work because people buy into them. And not just the 'whales', because no F2P game survives just on them, but regular users dropping a bit of money here and there every once in a while.

[FOXDUDE69]

Originally posted by Eiswolfin:

And that is just the ones on Steam, that doesn't include the even bigger games that beat all of those you listed:

Fortnite
Roblox
Minecraft
League of Legends

This is why square enix is investing in blockchain and nft technology.
Anyone who is paying attention knows that nfts will be huge.
Individual skins that you can only use in one game will be a thing of past, skins that you can use in multiple games, that's the endgame.

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by FOX6NINE:

Originally posted by Eiswolfin:

And that is just the ones on Steam, that doesn't include the even bigger games that beat all of those you listed:

Fortnite
Roblox
Minecraft
League of Legends

This is why square enix is investing in blockchain and nft technology.
Anyone who is paying attention knows that nfts will be huge.
Individual skins that you can only use in one game will be a thing of past, skins that you can use in multiple games, that's the endgame.

As long as the Fortnite kiddies stop thinking everything came from ♥♥♥♥ nite first. I'm getting tired of them crying when they assume a character model in their precious game was stolen by others.

[J4MESOX4D]

Originally posted by FOX6NINE:

Originally posted by Eiswolfin:

And that is just the ones on Steam, that doesn't include the even bigger games that beat all of those you listed:

Fortnite
Roblox
Minecraft
League of Legends

This is why square enix is investing in blockchain and nft technology.
Anyone who is paying attention knows that nfts will be huge.
Individual skins that you can only use in one game will be a thing of past, skins that you can use in multiple games, that's the endgame.

NFT's are pretty much dead in the water and why would developers opt in to transferable skins that the user owns when they can just continue selling their own exclusive microtransactions and rake in billions? Square Enix had to offload most of their catalogue just to fund this charade and Ubisoft have already been humiliated with this aspect. There is absolutely no chance developers will collude to provide a market framework so they can share their predatory ideals which would kill their MTX's and spread wealth so thin, they'd be losing most of their income potential.

[FOXDUDE69]

Originally posted by SVaughan:

Originally posted by FOX6NINE:

This is why square enix is investing in blockchain and nft technology.
Anyone who is paying attention knows that nfts will be huge.
Individual skins that you can only use in one game will be a thing of past, skins that you can use in multiple games, that's the endgame.

As long as the Fortnite kiddies stop thinking everything came from ♥♥♥♥ nite first. I'm getting tired of them crying when they assume a character model in their precious game was stolen by others.

You can't expect the entire world, especially children, to have the same knowledge of videogame history that you have.
Instead, just be glad about the fact that fortnite has become a love letter to gaming and gaming history.
And If some of these kids try out street fighter because the Chun Li skin was beautiful, that's a win, too.