How do you reason with yourself to care about achievement hunting when SAM exist.

[Flaak]

Generally from when I first starting enjoying earning achievements on steam I knew SAM existed and got into knowing that its for me. However, after learning more about it and how easy it is...sometimes it makes me feel like the grind for some hard achievements arent worth it? What about when you play 40 hours on a playthrough only to realize you missed one dumb easy thing holding you back from 100% so now you have to play another 30 hours. How tempting?

Anyways, dont see why they dont put an end to sam..even if it already ruined some things..why let it exist and ruin things further. Any game after would be all legit. Most achievements are earned legitimately anyway.

[lavalobster93]

it doesnt feel right just cheating for them
if i am going to have them, i am going to earn them

[AustrAlien2010]

People should not expect to always 100% something, because that's not always possible. Sometimes an achievement cannot be obtained.
It's natural to forget things. Having an achievement is a reminder for having done them. Otherwise people have to remind themself of not having done them. That's impractical.

If people want to proof something, then why not take a screenshot every time they earn an achievement?

[Start_Running]

I take it as a personal challenge. I don't care if other people do it or how they do it. I care about if I can do it.

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

achievements is about personal progressions , other peoples might use SAM , I don't care.

I also don't care for Random achievements that are like do this random thing that you'd never do if the achiements din't exist.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

I mean given there's nothing more than bragging rights on the line, and my ego isn't so fragile.

I see the fact that if someone cheats an achievement, it doesn't nullify what I've personally achieved. Why would I?

[BJWyler]

I don't care how other people play their single player games and get their own achievements. It has zero bearing and zero effect on how I play and get mine.

Just a reminder as well:
there are a myriad of ways that achievements can be obtained other than just the use of SAM:
-Have a friend or family member help or complete the achievement for you.
-Edit the game files.
-Use someone else's game save file.
-Use a dev console or cheat codes.
-Take advantage of in game mechanics or features to bypass the "normal" route.
-Exploit bugs.
-Mods - either external or from the Steam Workshop
-Steam User Console

Messaggio originale di Flaak:

Most achievements are earned legitimately anyway.

Then it's not really a problem, is it?

[blunus]

Achievements are meaningless on PC, SAM is not the only method but other methods such as save files as well.

My reason? I see no problem.

[Leonardo Da Pinchi]

Messaggio originale di BJWyler:

I don't care how other people play their single player games and get their own achievements. It has zero bearing and zero effect on how I play and get mine.

Just a reminder as well:
there are a myriad of ways that achievements can be obtained other than just the use of SAM:
-Have a friend or family member help or complete the achievement for you.
-Edit the game files.
-Use someone else's game save file.
-Use a dev console or cheat codes.
-Take advantage of in game mechanics or features to bypass the "normal" route.
-Exploit bugs.
-Mods - either external or from the Steam Workshop
-Steam User Console

Achievement servers too like in TF2 where you just type in a command, in a non-official server, and it pings like 60% of the achievements for you.

Since it pings, it also alerts Steam you've unlocked said achievements.

[KalGimpa]

people either enjoy achievement hunting or they don't

it adds nothing to the game for me and, since i cannot turn them off without disabling the overlay, i use sam to make sure that i do not see the popups

[Aachen]

I enjoy the pleasure of the challenge.

[Smuggy]

Achievements are nothing more than fluff to keep you playing a game. Cheat them or complete them, it doesn't matter.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Messaggio originale di Flaak:

Generally from when I first starting enjoying earning achievements on steam I knew SAM existed and got into knowing that its for me. However, after learning more about it and how easy it is...sometimes it makes me feel like the grind for some hard achievements arent worth it? What about when you play 40 hours on a playthrough only to realize you missed one dumb easy thing holding you back from 100% so now you have to play another 30 hours. How tempting?

Anyways, dont see why they dont put an end to sam..even if it already ruined some things..why let it exist and ruin things further. Any game after would be all legit. Most achievements are earned legitimately anyway.

You're playing video game, because you wanted to play video game as a hobby, to have fun, or to hang out with others in multiplayer right? Is that not the reasons to wanting to play video games?

If you answer yes, then apply same question in another way for wanting to earn game achievements, it basically same concept.

If you answer no, why even playing video games, if don't want to play, nor have fun, or anything really, it be same concept not wanting to earn achievements really.

But here the thing, if you cheat in a game for achievement, or glitch in a game for achievement, you did it because you can, and wanted to, now if you wanted to earn the achievements by doing the task / challenge, that because you wanted to do them, either because it fun for you, it a hobby, because you got other reasons why you want it, basically self explain really.

Now to your question, if beat game, missed one easy thing, and don't want to reply the whole game to do one thing, because know it take a really long time to just do it, then I say why heck not if it doesn't get you ban if it a single player that doesn't have VAC, or anti cheat on it. Look at dark souls to 100% that game have to do 5+ runs, you think it gonna be short, when really game only get harder everytime you do new game plus, as enemies get stronger, and more health. The down side is if use SAM, may not get the reward ingame that the achievements may give you, but that only if it matters to you. The other point is if it something really want, and want to do it legit, just do it legit, if you're burned, and don't want to keep going with it anymore, sure why not if it something you're not going to be bother by it later.

Now SAM can also relock the achievements as well, but do note some games may not work for using same game save you had that recorded for unlocking achievements you done, which may require you to make a new save just so can unlock them again. Now for multiplayer games there some rare achievements that requrires you to do speical tasks or challenges that either a time event, or no longer possible such as playing in same match with game dev that no longer plays it, or event that no longer a thing stuff like that.


IMO if I would want to use SAM I use it to unlock achievements that are broken in game that devs don't bother coming back fixing at all that the only reason I would use SAM for really.

[DESTROYER]

Messaggio originale di Start_Running:

I take it as a personal challenge. I don't care if other people do it or how they do it. I care about if I can do it.

Yeah, this. Plus often enough it's mostly stuff I'd do anyway, a lot of really silly/super grind achievements seem to be more a thing in AAA games which I barely ever play anyway. And sometimes I even go beyond with harder self imposed challenges that the current achievement system doesn't capture.