Achievement cheaters ?

[Soul]

Why steam don't do anything about achievement cheaters ? I see ton of profiles with a lot of games 100% when I check the stats ! all the achievement have been done in the same time and steam really don't care

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por Satoru:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

For now yes. My point is no Steam employees did literally said yes or no to modifying achievements is allow when i searched for a source.

On the old SPUF forums they indicated that the amount of effort required to even conceive of a system to do so didn't justify the ROI on it.

Steam already has server side achievements which are the best you can get for an absolutely secure system for achievements. But this again, requires every game to be online and have a central server that is teh arbiter of all data. That isn't practical for 99% of games.

It still doesn't mean they won't try to make achievements more secure.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

I'm asking you again. Did you find a source that the Steam employee said yes to "modifying achievements is safe"?

KittenGrindr. I guess that answered no. Common sense, if no Steam employees said yes or no to "modifying achievements is safe, then it mean no. Therefore, I'm correct to said "for now, yes"

Except they know exactly how to prevent it and still choose not to. Hell, there are official Steam groups around SAM.

Do you really think they would allow those groups to flourish if they gave out bans for SAM? Also, Steam doesn't handle achievement verification outside of the game telling Steam and achievement was unlocked.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

KittenGrindr. I guess that answered no. Common sense, if no Steam employees said yes or no to "modifying achievements is safe, then it mean no. Therefore, I'm correct to said "for now, yes"

Except they know exactly how to prevent it and still choose not to. Hell, there are official Steam groups around SAM.

Do you really think they would allow those groups to flourish if they gave out bans for SAM? Also, Steam doesn't handle achievement verification outside of the game telling Steam and achievement was unlocked.

Why would I change my mind for you? You are entitled to your own opinion.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Except they know exactly how to prevent it and still choose not to. Hell, there are official Steam groups around SAM.

Do you really think they would allow those groups to flourish if they gave out bans for SAM? Also, Steam doesn't handle achievement verification outside of the game telling Steam and achievement was unlocked.

Why would I change my mind for you? You are entitled to your own opinion.

Except what I stated isn't an opinion.

Valve knows about SAM.
They know exactly how to stop SAM.
They don't ban for SAM because you can't tell the difference between SAM, offline play, or save file sharing.
There are official SAM groups currently on Steam.
Steam does not handle achievements (outside of the game checking a box) for games they don't own.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Why would I change my mind for you? You are entitled to your own opinion.

Except what I stated isn't an opinion.

Valve knows about SAM.
They know exactly how to stop SAM.
They don't ban for SAM because you can't tell the difference between SAM, offline play, or save file sharing.
There are official SAM groups currently on Steam.
Steam does not handle achievements (outside of the game checking a box) for games they don't own.

That is your opinion as you have no evidence of Steam employees said yes or no, and there are none.

[Boblin the Goblin]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Except what I stated isn't an opinion.

Valve knows about SAM.
They know exactly how to stop SAM.
They don't ban for SAM because you can't tell the difference between SAM, offline play, or save file sharing.
There are official SAM groups currently on Steam.
Steam does not handle achievements (outside of the game checking a box) for games they don't own.

That is your opinion as you have no evidence of Steam employees said yes or no, and there are none.

Nothing I listed is an opinion. They literally stated themselves they can't tell the difference between a shared save or SAM.

[Komarimaru]

Valve has never cared about achievements. They give developers the ability to use secure ones if wanted, 99.999999999% don't care though since they mean nothing.

3DMark is one of the few applications that use secure achievements, not many others do.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

That is your opinion as you have no evidence of Steam employees said yes or no, and there are none.

Nothing I listed is an opinion. They literally stated themselves they can't tell the difference between a shared save or SAM.

With what evidence? They didn't said yes or no.

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Nothing I listed is an opinion. They literally stated themselves they can't tell the difference between a shared save or SAM.

With what evidence? They didn't said yes or no.

Because that is how the API is designed.

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/achievements/ach_guide

Valve doesn't care.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

With what evidence? They didn't said yes or no.

Because that is how the API is designed.

Valve doesn't care.

Where is evidence that the Steam employee said yes to modifying achievements is safe?

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Because that is how the API is designed.

Valve doesn't care.

Where is evidence that the Steam employee said yes to modifying achievements is safe?

Don't remove my link to try and hide it when quoting me, that is Valves documentation. Just because you've the inability to understand or comprehend the facts doesn't change the fact they do not care.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Where is evidence that the Steam employee said yes to modifying achievements is safe?

Don't remove my link to try and hide it when quoting me, that is Valves documentation. Just because you've the inability to understand or comprehend the facts doesn't change the fact they do not care.

I didn't remove your link, I just corrected my autocorrect error. If no Steam employees said yes, then it mean no. That mean the answer to "modifying achievements is safe" is no.

If you worked for a summer camp with a work truck, then you will understand what is the answer from the staff training class. As such, if no one tell you have a permission to drive work truck, then it mean you have no permission to drive it.

PS: I have no issue with comprehensive. And by the way, comprehend is same as understand.

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Don't remove my link to try and hide it when quoting me, that is Valves documentation. Just because you've the inability to understand or comprehend the facts doesn't change the fact they do not care.

I didn't remove your link, I just corrected my autocorrect error. If no Steam employees said yes, then it mean no. That mean the answer to "modifying achievements is safe" is no.

If you worked for a summer camp with a work truck, then you will understand what is the answer from the staff training class. As such, if no one tell you have a permission to drive work truck, then it mean you have no permission to drive it.

PS: I have no issue with comprehensive. And by the way, comprehend is same as understand.

You removed it, or it would be there.

That is Valves documentation, showing you're wrong, yet again. No single employee is going to waste their time with the likes of you, when everything is already documented.

[Jamebonds1]

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

I didn't remove your link, I just corrected my autocorrect error. If no Steam employees said yes, then it mean no. That mean the answer to "modifying achievements is safe" is no.

If you worked for a summer camp with a work truck, then you will understand what is the answer from the staff training class. As such, if no one tell you have a permission to drive work truck, then it mean you have no permission to drive it.

PS: I have no issue with comprehensive. And by the way, comprehend is same as understand.

You removed it, or it would be there.

That is Valves documentation, showing you're wrong, yet again. No single employee is going to waste their time with the likes of you, when everything is already documented.

No, I ignored your link because this is not evidence im looking for. Remember, you're the one that disagreed with me first not me.

So again, where is evidence with a Steam employees said yes to "modifying achievements is safe"?

[Komarimaru]

Publicado originalmente por Jamebonds1:

Publicado originalmente por Komarimaru:

You removed it, or it would be there.

That is Valves documentation, showing you're wrong, yet again. No single employee is going to waste their time with the likes of you, when everything is already documented.

No, I ignored your link because this is not evidence im looking for. Remember, you're the one that disagreed with me first not me.

So again, where is evidence with a Steam employees said yes to "modifying achievements is safe"?

In the link, from valve, that you're unable to read due to illiteracy or other reasons.

Don't like it, then write to them directly.