Did Steam Ruin PC Gaming?

[Guy]

So I was thinking earlier whether or not it's bad that I have been playing Steam less recently. That made me think about if Steam shifted the focus of gaming onto how many hours you put into a game than actually enjoying things about the real game. Or how about how many meaningless cards you craft for meaningless xp for meaningless levels that we stupidly continue to make go up for the benefit of Valve and a false sense of success. I have noticed that I'm having more fun with console games because I'm not constantly thinking about whether or not this session was at least an hour or something stupid. Thoughts?

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AYY LMAO の投稿を引用：

So I was thinking earlier whether or not it's bad that I have been playing Steam less recently. That made me think about if Steam shifted the focus of gaming onto how many hours you put into a game than actually enjoying things about the real game. Or how about how many meaningless cards you craft for meaningless xp for meaningless levels that we stupidly continue to make go up for the benefit of Valve and a false sense of success. I have noticed that I'm having more fun with console games because I'm not constantly thinking about whether or not this session was at least an hour or something stupid. Thoughts?

Not really, if you think about it.
The only problems with Steam are the sales and VAC.
Let me get into VAC first:
It's a little too punishing, the fact that it cannot be lifted and the fact that it locks your inventory. I mean, most of them are cheaters, but they don't deserve all of this! Here is how this could be fixed:
1: Warning system
I think it should tell you when it has detected a cheat, but it would warn you. And if you get 3 warnings, you get VAC banned.
2: No inventory lock
Some people (including myself) are the victim of VAC ban waves (or just simply Cheat Engine being installed). I was banned for Cheat Engine (even though it was for AdVenture Capitalist), and I have not been unbanned, even though I have contacted Steam Support through both eMail and phone. The eMail was NEVER responded to. So why would there be an inventory lock? It's a little bit unfair to them. How I think this should be is if you get 5 warnings (similar to the 3 warning system, but this is afterwards), you get banned from all servers and get an inventory lock, even if it's on a non-VAC secure server!
Next up, the infamous wallet-stealing STEAM SALES!
The only problem with Steam sales is that companies are not getting much money from their games, and most people are buying from Steam. They might not get enough money and could eventually go bankrupt. Here is how they can be fixed:
1: Make it the developer's choice to make a game for sale in a Steam sale! It should be their choice, but I don't know, maybe it already is...
2: Make them less often. They are so often that they are just plain common.

Ok, I'll stop, I've been writing this for a little bit too long... XD

[Mr. Fibble]

PC master race is just another faction in the pathetic console wars

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AYY LMAO の投稿を引用：

So I was thinking earlier whether or not it's bad that I have been playing Steam less recently. That made me think about if Steam shifted the focus of gaming onto how many hours you put into a game than actually enjoying things about the real game. Or how about how many meaningless cards you craft for meaningless xp for meaningless levels that we stupidly continue to make go up for the benefit of Valve and a false sense of success. I have noticed that I'm having more fun with console games because I'm not constantly thinking about whether or not this session was at least an hour or something stupid. Thoughts?

Not really, if you think about it.
The only problems with Steam are the sales and VAC.
Let me get into VAC first:
It's a little too punishing, the fact that it cannot be lifted and the fact that it locks your inventory. I mean, most of them are cheaters, but they don't deserve all of this! Here is how this could be fixed:
1: Warning system
I think it should tell you when it has detected a cheat, but it would warn you. And if you get 3 warnings, you get VAC banned.
2: No inventory lock
Some people (including myself) are the victim of VAC ban waves (or just simply Cheat Engine being installed). I was banned for Cheat Engine (even though it was for AdVenture Capitalist), and I have not been unbanned, even though I have contacted Steam Support through both eMail and phone. The eMail was NEVER responded to. So why would there be an inventory lock? It's a little bit unfair to them. How I think this should be is if you get 5 warnings (similar to the 3 warning system, but this is afterwards), you get banned from all servers and get an inventory lock, even if it's on a non-VAC secure server!
Next up, the infamous wallet-stealing STEAM SALES!
The only problem with Steam sales is that companies are not getting much money from their games, and most people are buying from Steam. They might not get enough money and could eventually go bankrupt. Here is how they can be fixed:
1: Make it the developer's choice to make a game for sale in a Steam sale! It should be their choice, but I don't know, maybe it already is...
2: Make them less often. They are so often that they are just plain common.

Ok, I'll stop, I've been writing this for a little bit too long... XD

Your at fault you admitted to using cheat engine and vac looks for that program and bans accordingly no matter if you say it was for another game or not you left it running while playing on a vac secured server and you got hit with a vac ban. So no it's not a wave of vac bans being handed out or anything. You messed up left cheat engine running and then played on a vac secured server. Just cause you say you was using it for a non vac game the system don't know that the system sees you in a vac secured server with cheat engine running in the background so it assumes you are cheating in that vac secured server. Not vac's fault but yours for not closing it out before playing on a vac secured server. So the ban is 100% legit.

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Sheldon Bongos の投稿を引用：

Statistically speaking, those games crush the PC gaming industry. When you look at how many people play computer games, let's use Steam stats as an example, you see a list of 100 games, with an average of 2000-10,000 people playing each game. Now if you would compare that to Candy Crush, that game has millions of people playing it each day. It's not even a close comparison.

I'm not certain that it's really fair to compare free games that people play for 15 minutes at a time while sitting on the toilet, or waiting for a friend to arrive for a lunch date, with a game that costs $50 a time, and which people play until their eyes can't focus any more.

Casual gaming and "gaming" are as different as two kids playing pitch and toss in their back yard and somebody playing on a professional team.

Both are valid activities involving baseballs, and both have their place in society, but they aren't really directly comparable.

normally, no, but guess what type of games make up 80% (at least) of steams current lineup? dorky little 2d, games that should be free, games that look 15 years old compared to candy crush, games that actually have less content than candy crush (beleive it or not, i can birng a list lol) games that are half complete compared to candy crush.

id be generous to say that 20% of steam games are "real games". look at the top 100 played games on steam. i dont play candy crush, but judging from the commercials, it is a AAA compared to some of the games on the bottom half of that list. -.-


candy crush.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2cYAwQ60Ac


steam game.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eMvZdj-IcY
http://store.steampowered.com/app/521340/






1985's very own... Mario 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ24UHbhFM8


games being sold on steam for $6.00.... TODAY! in 2016! 30 years later!
http://store.steampowered.com/app/458170/?snr=1_5_1100__1100


lmao


this is a better example, nintendo entertainment system 1's, legend of zelda..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ADhznw1zhc


game being sold on steam for $6.00
http://store.steampowered.com/app/458170/?snr=1_5_1100__1100


play those videos side by side. i laughed so hard at steam and the developers they allow to sell games on this site, i farted a little.





steam makes AAA develoers from the 80's look like theyre 30 years ahead of their time. its like, those developers are time travellers, they stole games from steam, took them back to 1980, and sold them making a fortune. >:)

[Excceder]

Wow amazing

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pzyclone の投稿を引用：

Wow amazing

no you haven't seen amazing yet, just wait, theres about to be a group of people coming to this thread to tell me how some people like paying real money for games steam found in 1980. THATS. amazing. ;)

[3lishadow]

noo !

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3lishadow の投稿を引用：

noo !

one day, steam will be known for starting its very own genre... "abandoned games". lol

but seriously, they should start a whole new section in the store, "user submitted games". becasue that is al most of these games are.

[GhostSailor]

Back years ago, Xfire use to be the thing about keeping track of hours you put into a game -- this was before the Steam Community rolled out.

With a large variety of games being single player these days, you can still choose Steam's offline mode and it won't track hours you sink into games. There's also ways of making your profile private so you can hide your hours from the public.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

I'm afraid I approve of the very high sanctions for cheating. Playing against cheats is so dispiriting it puts you off playing. Why have "cheat" software uploaded on your computer anyway ? Cheating is a plague in multi player games and without the bans it would be even worse.

That's what my TF2 loadouts and skins say - I've played the game a lot and I am not a cheat.

S.x.

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gallifrey の投稿を引用：

I'm afraid I approve of the very high sanctions for cheating. Playing against cheats is so dispiriting it puts you off playing. Why have "cheat" software uploaded on your computer anyway ? Cheating is a plague in multi player games and without the bans it would be even worse.

That's what my TF2 loadouts and skins say - I've played the game a lot and I am not a cheat.

S.x.

i agree with this.

koa の投稿を引用：

Back years ago, Xfire use to be the thing about keeping track of hours you put into a game -- this was before the Steam Community rolled out.

With a large variety of games being single player these days, you can still choose Steam's offline mode and it won't track hours you sink into games. There's also ways of making your profile private so you can hide your hours from the public.

i think, the purpose of steam wasn't to record playtimes at all. imo, such thing appeard to make developers and players... erm... closer? there was a need for this at that time...

some things turned for the better, some things turned for the worse (wat da market needs!!!), but overall, community is responsible for all things toxic for the most part.

sincearlely, anonymeus.

[Alperen ShitGooner]

They dont kill pc gaming, they think they are pc gaming

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

★ VojtboX ★ の投稿を引用：

They dont kill pc gaming, they think they are pc gaming

If they did they'd be mainly right.

S.x.

[Mr Sinister]

gallifrey の投稿を引用：

I'm afraid I approve of the very high sanctions for cheating. Playing against cheats is so dispiriting it puts you off playing. Why have "cheat" software uploaded on your computer anyway ? Cheating is a plague in multi player games and without the bans it would be even worse.

That's what my TF2 loadouts and skins say - I've played the game a lot and I am not a cheat.

S.x.

I have over 2500 hours of Left for dead one and two, and various other games protected by VAC. Never had a problem myself.

However, i do not agree with Developers being able to use their anti-cheat software (especially while a game is in early access) to be able to manually ban people.
Not without evidence of cheats, so called "exploits" etc against the individual, besdies exploiting" not being a viable reason anyway.

Wide open for massive abuse.

That i do not agree with.

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gallifrey の投稿を引用：

★ VojtboX ★ の投稿を引用：

They dont kill pc gaming, they think they are pc gaming

If they did they'd be mainly right.

S.x.

"Battlefield 3 successfully captured a slice of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3’s market share.[125] On 29 June 2012 EA revealed that the game has sold 15 million copies"

if they captured a "slice" of call of duties ,arket share, they pretty much took the whole pie from steam... so to speak. ;)