The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 2:39am
Steam OS ISO Update... When?
So...

When will we see a SteamOS update that is similar to the Steam Deck's SteamOS but, works on pretty much any PC out there, and isn't limited to just the Steam Deck?
When will we get a read and write file system so we can do a desktop that just gets updates from a Steam Repo but, let's us turn Steam OS into our daily driver to do everything form gaming to school work?

Here is the link to the old SteamOS Page...
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown


Article

Valve give update on official Steam Deck Dock, Valve excited for SteamOS on more devices

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-give-update-on-official-steam-deck-dock-valve-excited-for-steamos-on-more-devices/

"Valve reiterated, again, that work is ongoing in SteamOS for the upcoming official installer for more devices. When that happens, there will also be an official way to dual-boot with Windows. They're also "excited to bring SteamOS to other manufacturers that might want to put it on their handheld gaming PC"."
- Liam Dawe - 28 September 2022 - Gaming on Linux

I am done with Mircosoft. Especially after Windows 11. If I can't play some games because they are Windows only... I will live.

Come on Gabe... Do it... Crush Microsoft... Just absolutely eviscerate them...
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Bee🐝 Nov 23, 2022 @ 5:47am 
At some point hardcore Linux fanboys are going to stop living in the past, realise it’s 2022, and that Microsoft doesn’t make its money off Windows anymore.

Microsoft could stop selling Windows tomorrow, and they’d still be around. It’s a teeny part of their business model now. They’re far too busy selling Azure servers to companies, like Sony, who run the PlayStation Network off it.

Oh, and you do realise that the Microsoft engineers worked with Valve’s to get Gamepass working on the Deck, right? Heck, Steam Support points you to the Deck support page on the Xbox site.

As long as you can stream xCloud to it, Microsoft doesn’t care what the platform is. Plastic Gaming Box and OS wars are at an end, streaming killed it.
Last edited by Bee🐝; Nov 23, 2022 @ 5:51am
ReBoot Nov 23, 2022 @ 6:22am 
Valve are talking about an official install option (including dual boot) later. The usual Valve "later", but they have promised it's coming. The current state of things would be HoloISO, haven't tried it myself but it's GitHub page is a fine read to begin with.

That said, 'tis better to love than to hate. You can love your stuff without poisoning the discussion (as well as yourself, actually) with hating the other stuff.
Last edited by ReBoot; Nov 23, 2022 @ 6:24am
Wolfpig Nov 23, 2022 @ 7:56am 
I would say....it will come when the current big picture beta is going final, as that ui is based on the steamdeck one.......and as everyone knows, Steam os is just a Linux distribution on which steam is set default as starting at start in fullscreen mode.

In other word....you could just install linux, install steam, opt into the beta client and add the command line for the bpm beta in it to have more or less that what probably will be the same as the updated steam os (proton and such can be installed separately as far as i know).
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 11:02am 
Originally posted by Wolfpig:
you could just install linux, install steam, opt into the beta client and add the command line for the bpm beta in it to have more or less that what probably will be the same as the updated steam os (proton and such can be installed separately as far as i know).

I know. It would just be so nice to have a linux distro specifically for gaming. With all of that already done and ready to go, I just install and done.
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by ReBoot:
You can love your stuff without poisoning the discussion (as well as yourself, actually) with hating the other stuff.

Hating other stuff? What are you talking about now?
ReBoot Nov 23, 2022 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by The Exile:
Originally posted by ReBoot:
You can love your stuff without poisoning the discussion (as well as yourself, actually) with hating the other stuff.

Hating other stuff? What are you talking about now?
Specifically the second-last paragraph.
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Bee:
At some point hardcore Linux fanboys are going to stop living in the past, realise it’s 2022, and that Microsoft doesn’t make its money off Windows anymore.

"hardcore Linux fanboys"??

I never made a claim saying that Microsoft makes the majority of it's profits from selling Windows OS.

The fact is...

The vast majority of desktop users are on Windows.
Most gaming is done on Windows.
Most anti-cheat systems are Windows only.
Windows is currently the Desktop king.

When I say...

"Come on Gabe... Do it... Crush Microsoft... Just absolutely eviscerate them..."

I am just trying to express overwhelming excitement, and encouragement towards Gabe, at a future where the majority of people aren't on Windows anymore, and developers finally start to focus on Native Linux builds of games, Anti-Cheat software starts to go full Native Linux, Open source APIs start getting used and developed, etc.

Gaming support finally comes to Linux in full swing.

More and more companies will be encouraged to open source their stuff.

Other applications start to see people moving toward linux as the new major desktop platform they need to target and we start to see software shift over to native linux builds of software.

That is an absolutely exciting future, at least to me it is.

Originally posted by Bee:
Oh, and you do realise that the Microsoft engineers worked with Valve’s to get Gamepass working on the Deck, right?

Yes. Your condescension is unnecessary.

Again, I am just excited that there is a huge gaming juggernaut, Valve, making an OS that will allow gaming on linux to be as easy as 1,2,3, for most people, helping people make a transition from their out of date, picked apart, registry tweaked to ****, not or illegally licensed windows machines, exposing themselves to a ton of security issues, causing gaming problems on those machines, and causing problems for developers as people having those issues due to issues they don't understand just blaming the developer and their game as the issue for their whoas. Microsoft's OS wasn't designed for that type of thing. Linux is designed for that kind of modularity, especially Arch Linux. If an application has a dependency and you accidentally removed it, you can easily find out what it is you are missing, and add said dependency back to the system via an official repo and a few short commands in a Linux terminal. Any aspect of the linux system that is not right can be easily replaced, fixed, or updated with a few short commands. It's not like Windows and the inefficient ways they handle things that cause issues for many people out there. Developers can write scripts for people that will repair damaged systems in a few clicks and the game is working as intended and the user is happy, etc.

Anyway hopefully I have cleared that up. Have a good day.
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by ReBoot:
Originally posted by The Exile:

Hating other stuff? What are you talking about now?
Specifically the second-last paragraph.

Are you refering to this?

"I am done with Mircosoft. Especially after Windows 11. If I can't play some games because they are Windows only... I will live."

Let me know.

Thanks.
CR0NO Nov 23, 2022 @ 10:28pm 
Originally posted by The Exile:
So...

When will we see a SteamOS update that is similar to the Steam Deck's SteamOS but, works on pretty much any PC out there, and isn't limited to just the Steam Deck?
When will we get a read and write file system so we can do a desktop that just gets updates from a Steam Repo but, let's us turn Steam OS into our daily driver to do everything form gaming to school work?

Here is the link to the old SteamOS Page...
https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/buildyourown


Article

Valve give update on official Steam Deck Dock, Valve excited for SteamOS on more devices

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2022/09/valve-give-update-on-official-steam-deck-dock-valve-excited-for-steamos-on-more-devices/

"Valve reiterated, again, that work is ongoing in SteamOS for the upcoming official installer for more devices. When that happens, there will also be an official way to dual-boot with Windows. They're also "excited to bring SteamOS to other manufacturers that might want to put it on their handheld gaming PC"."
- Liam Dawe - 28 September 2022 - Gaming on Linux

I am done with Mircosoft. Especially after Windows 11. If I can't play some games because they are Windows only... I will live.

Come on Gabe... Do it... Crush Microsoft... Just absolutely eviscerate them...

Use windows 10 , it's still fine , and updated . I ain't switching over to "ads with windows" myself , gonnah stick to 10 and maybe STEAMOS dual boot on the main pc.

Il definatly install STEAMOS 3 on my second desktop pc in living room for gaming only (single boot).

Oh yeah and , yes it will be released in valve time , so when they say "soon" they mean at least another year or more ...

They said almost a year ago they would release STEAMOS to desktops and not only the Steam Deck.. when steam deck pre orders where possible... So we've been waiting a looooooooong time valve....
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CR0NO Nov 23, 2022 @ 10:29pm 
Originally posted by ReBoot:

That said, 'tis better to love than to hate. You can love your stuff without poisoning the discussion (as well as yourself, actually) with hating the other stuff.

Hippie
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by CR0NO:

Hippie


Hahahahaha.
The Exile Nov 23, 2022 @ 10:43pm 
Originally posted by CR0NO:

Use windows 10 , it's still fine


I do but, it's only got till 2025; After that you gotta go to Win 11. Having a nice Linux distro that is focused on gaming and is providing solid updates and frequently, like the Steam Deck's Steam OS, makes me want to switch over come 2025.
ReBoot Nov 25, 2022 @ 12:34am 
Originally posted by ValentB:
What's wrong with Win11?
The usual: everything new is bad. XP was hated to hell & back when it was new, then when 7 came along, XP was the best thing since sliced bread and 7 the worst. Then came along 10 and 7 was the best thing ever and 10 the biggest pile of ♥♥♥♥ there is. Now 11 is bad and 10 is good.

Same goes for the Steam library, to say the current one was hated when it was new would've been an understatement. Yet, the library that came before was hated when it was new as well.

People love hating on the new for the sake of hating on the new.
The Exile Nov 25, 2022 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by ValentB:
What's wrong with Win11?

To keep this short...

Win11 has loads of problems.
I hate the new layout and design of everything in Win11.
I dislike that many things I could manipulate, and change, in Win 10 are now locked down in Win 11.
I dislike how Windows works in general.
I prefer the Linux way of doing things, hands down.
The Exile Nov 25, 2022 @ 11:06am 
Originally posted by ReBoot:
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I would appreciate it if you would stop lying and making assumptions about myself or my intentions. If someone directed a question towards me, I will answer their question. You don't need to make up a false answer for me and act like a total d bag. Thanks.

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Microsoft takes a while to get their new OS to something resembling stability.

When XP launched, it was a mess. It got better with time.
When Vista launched, it was a mess. It stayed a mess.
When 7 launched, it was a mess. It got better with time.
When 10 launched, it was rough... Really rough... It's gotten better with time.
When 11 launched, it's been down right horrible, I am sure Microsoft will make it better, in time.

I personally don't want to deal with issues in win11 when I can just use win10 and not have any problems what so ever.


Why do I want Valve to realize a great Linux Distro?

I simply prefer the Linux way of doing things and would use that over Windows any day of the week. I have no problem using Linux as my daily driver to do the work I need to do.

I like the terminal.
I like repos.
I like being able to easily update or revert changes.
I like the modularity of Linux, which is there by design.
I like that Linux can be configured in a way to be very light on system resources.
I don't need a Ryzen 2 series + CPU and a TPM module installed just to use Linux.

All stuff you just don't get with Windows.
Last edited by The Exile; Nov 26, 2022 @ 6:29pm
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