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NOTdeduction 2016년 7월 5일 오후 2시 59분
Gambling: Steam are going to close all the gambling csgo sites?
Hello,
What do you think about the gamble sites? all the csgo gamble sites!
I heard that almost all the Team Fortress 2 gamble sites are now closed.
You think like steam are going to close all the ''illegal'' sites?
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76561198001062896 2016년 7월 14일 오전 4시 15분 
Darren님이 먼저 게시:
Of course it will be. They violate exactly the same TOSs that Gambling Sites do. Any sort of trading bot violates the TOSs.

You realise this phrase doesnt make any sense, right?
Darren 2016년 7월 14일 오전 4시 20분 
Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:
Darren님이 먼저 게시:
Of course it will be. They violate exactly the same TOSs that Gambling Sites do. Any sort of trading bot violates the TOSs.

You realise this phrase doesnt make any sense, right?

It made more sense when there wasn't a post between mine and the one I was replying to.

OPSkins is violating the same TOS with it's trading bot that gambling sites are, hence it will be affected as well (to a greater or lesser degree depending on how exactly Steam is going about flagging the trading bots for the gambling sites).
76561198001062896 2016년 7월 14일 오전 4시 22분 
Darren님이 먼저 게시:
Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:

You realise this phrase doesnt make any sense, right?

It made more sense when there wasn't a post between mine and the one I was replying to.

OPSkins is violating the same TOS with it's trading bot that gambling sites are, hence it will be affected as well (to a greater or lesser degree depending on how exactly Steam is going about flagging the trading bots for the gambling sites).

Im doubtful they would go after them as the announcement was SPECIFICALLY about gambling sites, not sites that are using steam trade bots in a way that is not entirely endorsed by Valve.
Darren 2016년 7월 14일 오전 4시 28분 
Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:
Darren님이 먼저 게시:

It made more sense when there wasn't a post between mine and the one I was replying to.

OPSkins is violating the same TOS with it's trading bot that gambling sites are, hence it will be affected as well (to a greater or lesser degree depending on how exactly Steam is going about flagging the trading bots for the gambling sites).

Im doubtful they would go after them as the announcement was SPECIFICALLY about gambling sites, not sites that are using steam trade bots in a way that is not entirely endorsed by Valve.

And then the Gambling Sites hook up via sites like OPSkins instead of directly through Steam and work exactly the same (you deposit on OPSkins and then the gambling site can see the items and have you use OPSkins to move them to their account to get the "funds" for gambling). It's not like they aren't willing to jump through hoops to get the sites up and running in the first place.

If Valve is going to do this it's not really going to be able to get away with half measures, they will have to shut down ALL trading bots (or make a best faith effort to do so) if they want this to be effective at stopping the Gambling sites.
Nezvo <|°_°|> 2016년 7월 14일 오전 4시 41분 
Good.
. 2016년 7월 14일 오전 7시 09분 
Gambling Sites closed - Will the Items be worth MORE or LESS?
What do you Guys think? :/
Dunno if i should cash out my Inv on OP-Skins...
⛧EyMi Mayhem⛧ 2016년 7월 14일 오전 7시 28분 
RIP Gambling :(님이 먼저 게시:
Gambling Sites closed - Will the Items be worth MORE or LESS?
What do you Guys think? :/
Dunno if i should cash out my Inv on OP-Skins...
awww..
defusq 2016년 7월 14일 오전 7시 31분 
BossGalaga 2016년 7월 14일 오전 7시 31분 
RIP Gambling :(님이 먼저 게시:
Gambling Sites closed - Will the Items be worth MORE or LESS?
What do you Guys think? :/
Dunno if i should cash out my Inv on OP-Skins...

It's your choice. You're an adult...which seems to be what a lot of people are forgetting.

The gambling sites will re-open but if Steam truly cracks down on them, they'll have to use even less secure measures than they do now. And people will still use them and then they'll get mad and cry about how they lost all the knives they bought with mommy's credit card and their daddy is a lawyer and it's Gabe's fault.
Evor 2016년 7월 14일 오전 8시 24분 
Read new rules and part about
"subscription" all games on steam. Bye bye steam. I don't spend more money on this useless platform.
Bomb Bloke 2016년 7월 14일 오전 8시 25분 
BossGalaga님이 먼저 게시:
And people will still use them and then they'll get mad and cry about how they lost all the knives they bought with mommy's credit card and their daddy is a lawyer and it's Gabe's fault.

I dunno, if it didn't appear that such sites were endorsed by Valve, I reckon kids'd be more likely to steer clear.
BossGalaga 2016년 7월 14일 오전 9시 46분 
Evor님이 먼저 게시:
Read new rules and part about
"subscription" all games on steam. Bye bye steam. I don't spend more money on this useless platform.

If you're referring to the fact that you don't really own the games on your account, only a license to them and your access may be revoked if you violate Valve or the publisher's terms of service then that's not new.

You have over 500 games. Doesn't seem like Steam is as useless as you claim since you do in fact use it...a lot.
Start_Running 2016년 7월 14일 오전 11시 03분 
Lycanious님이 먼저 게시:
Wait, how does Valve allow you to earn money? There is absolutely no way as of right now to get any type of currency other than Steam Credit.
YOu earn momney by actually dioing some work and making something. Create a skin, create an Item or a set of items, create a map set and if it meets approval you can put it up on the steam store and you will get a share of the sales. Of course this only works for Valve games I'm afraid.

When they tried to apply this system to other games gamers did a loud : WE DON'T WANT TO PAY.

Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:
Darren님이 먼저 게시:

It made more sense when there wasn't a post between mine and the one I was replying to.

OPSkins is violating the same TOS with it's trading bot that gambling sites are, hence it will be affected as well (to a greater or lesser degree depending on how exactly Steam is going about flagging the trading bots for the gambling sites).

Im doubtful they would go after them as the announcement was SPECIFICALLY about gambling sites, not sites that are using steam trade bots in a way that is not entirely endorsed by Valve.

Problem is Zet. What's the difference between a gambling site and any other trade site as to how they perform their functions? Not much if any. In short, it makes more sense for Valve to lock down the ability for accounts to be linked like that than to take up the taske of vetting and becoming responsible for third party sites that use it. As I said.,..Because some people in the community are trustuing ♥♥♥♥♥ the rest of the community is about to get a bit more restricted.
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Aahzmandias 2016년 7월 14일 오후 12시 26분 
Yes, they are actually doing something about the gaming sites, after they got sued.

But that does not change the fact, that they observed this in silence, until now ...

If you compare that to a prostitution ring, it's like they were handing out the room keys to the pimps, for making ♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of their women and children.

It maybe not illegal, but it is at least amorale, in letting it slide. All for making more money out of their skins.
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BossGalaga 2016년 7월 14일 오후 12시 56분 
mkess님이 먼저 게시:
But that does not change the fact, that they observed this in silence, until now ...

If you compare that to a prostitution ring, it's like they were handing out the room keys to the pimps, for making ♥♥♥♥♥♥ out of their women and children.

It maybe not illegal, but it is at least amorale, in letting it slide. All for making more money out of their skins.

It's funny how the same people ^^ complaining about the new restrictions and authentication measures are the same people who want more restrictions...so they can ♥♥♥♥♥ about those too.

mkess님이 먼저 게시:
All other things have to be optional, and should not cause penalties, if I decide not to use the authenticator. I don't know, what is more annoying. The arrogamce of Valve, forcing this on us, or the "white knights", defending this utter BS to the death.

I love how it's Valve's fault that people are idiots who don't think they should accept any amount of personal responsibility for their actions.
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