Steam could learn from Elon Musk / Twitter

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Excited to see gaming communities eventually shift its way to a more open speech platform that isn't censorship culture. Steam could learn from twitters new shift in speech policies.

Should give it a shot, be surprised how much positive feedback you'll get compared to being a censorship happy! But hey, it's your platform 100% correct. It was just a suggestion, just know I'll drop this account worth some amount in a heartbeat for something that allows me more freedom to talk while playing games, if it ever comes about.

However I hope that steam will be the ones to pioneer this instead keeping its long title as a gaming platform.

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Rome fell.. hard too might I add.

Kinda hard to say when they fell though. One might say that rome simply 'changed.

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As I understand, it was too oppressed for a society on its commoners.

That would be incorrect.
Simple truth is ROme is more a marvel that it lasted so long. The Empoire was always involved in some civil or internal war or another. Heck at one time they had as many as 5 emperors at the same time.. Rome Pulled itself apart because humans can't really operate as coghesive social units on a scale that large.

M'dude. It'd help you to learn History before you start talking about it. Also it was less tribes and more whole nations that got in on the sacking.

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

Did you notice the key Tell in that title M8?

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Автор сообщения: brian9824

I've been reading the replies but AFAIK the OP hasn't actually said why racism, name calling, threats, sexual attacks, etc should be allowed on Steam. Especially when so many children use Steam....

Can't really see why any platform would want that content on it.... Can anyone explain WHY a platform would want any of that?

Well sexual and racial slurs are the back bone of competitive multiplayer communication.
Duh.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Автор сообщения: brian9824

I've been reading the replies but AFAIK the OP hasn't actually said why racism, name calling, threats, sexual attacks, etc should be allowed on Steam. Especially when so many children use Steam....

Can't really see why any platform would want that content on it.... Can anyone explain WHY a platform would want any of that?

I can only assume either they want do such things, or want to allow others to do such things, because that all there is to it really, and so far all I saw few of them saying it's freedom of speech which I really doubt it for that reason at this point, or wanting to express themselves by doing such things, yeah which make more sense because they want to do it, or want others to do it, and that the only conclusion I can come to for this, as OP unwilling to be honest to answer the 1st post of the question, and OP consider it as trolling because I asked said question.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/0/3543798390543974691/?ctp=7#c3595590330311587821

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Musk says freedom and means his personal freedom. So HE can do what he wants.

Valve could learn how to lead a company like a 3 year old kid with a golden spoon up the butt yeah.

The cult around this person is just awkward.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: brian9824

I've been reading the replies but AFAIK the OP hasn't actually said why racism, name calling, threats, sexual attacks, etc should be allowed on Steam.

Apparently certain individuals can't communicate without resorting to the vocabulary of a 6 year old who just learnt bad words.

Автор сообщения: t9

Musk says freedom and means his personal freedom. So HE can do what he wants.

As I said at the beggining of this thread, Twitter's Terms of Service have NOT changed an inch.

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Автор сообщения: brian9824

I've been reading the replies but AFAIK the OP hasn't actually said why racism, name calling, threats, sexual attacks, etc should be allowed on Steam.

Apparently certain individuals can't communicate without resorting to the vocabulary of a 6 year old who just learnt bad words.

Автор сообщения: t9

Musk says freedom and means his personal freedom. So HE can do what he wants.

As I said at the beggining of this thread, Twitter's Terms of Service have NOT changed an inch.

One need not change the terms when one can simply reinterpret them.

Автор сообщения: t9

Musk says freedom and means his personal freedom. So HE can do what he wants.

Valve could learn how to lead a company like a 3 year old kid with a golden spoon up the butt yeah.

The cult around this person is just awkward.

He basically stled himself as the reborn Nikola Tesla so yeah.
And there are people who see musck as their personal ideal.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Start_Running

One need not change the terms when one can simply reinterpret them.

But you can still be banned from the service for not following said TOS, regardless of internal interpretations. The word of law remains unchanged.

At the end of the day what counts is what's in the TOS.

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Автор сообщения: RiO

Автор сообщения: Mad Scientist

People forget one huge part; he owns it all so he can sell/shutter/shutdown anything in any area that's unprofitable. I doubt any overseas regulations can save much when the company HQ is not in their region. They can not accept requests/demands, but the plug can still be pulled from an area costing the company too much money.

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He who owns it, can end it. Being unprofitable is a justified cause, as is being a general burden.
Nothing in that region can save it, if he wants to end it; that will simply happen. Never get cocky when someone else can end your job by owning the company, is always a meaningful piece of advice. Especially when making public comments about how much loss it's having with too many employees, contractors & services.

At the end of the day, realistically no one country can stop a business owner from ending jobs for a realistic reason especially when restructuring a company to attempt preventing loss of the business due to unrealistic operational costs.

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I'll drop this account worth thousands in a heartbeat

Dude's got 90 games total no more than $1500 MSRP and saying thats worth thousands

You pose a false argument. The number of games he has is irrelevant.
Say something more meaningful.

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Автор сообщения: Dr.Shadowds 🐉

Why you want racial slurs, and swearing?

I can see why Steam don't want people throwing profanity at each other, or calling others racial slurs.

You are either not very bright or you are a deceitful manipulator.

He never said he wanted racial slurs, that is a false statement that you planted.

Try again. This time be more honest.

[Tito Shivan]

Автор сообщения: Mad Scientist

At the end of the day, realistically no one country can stop a business owner from ending jobs for a realistic reason especially when restructuring a company to attempt preventing loss of the business due to unrealistic operational costs.

The word 'realistic' here is key. And as has been said layoffs for company restructuring have to follow a series of checks and balances for companies operating within the EU.

The proof is in the pudding and none of the reestructuring and layoffs happening in the US side of Twitter has had any impact in the EU division.

[Brian9824]

Автор сообщения: Tito Shivan

Автор сообщения: Mad Scientist

At the end of the day, realistically no one country can stop a business owner from ending jobs for a realistic reason especially when restructuring a company to attempt preventing loss of the business due to unrealistic operational costs.

The word 'realistic' here is key. And as has been said layoffs for company restructuring have to follow a series of checks and balances for companies operating within the EU.

The proof is in the pudding and none of the reestructuring and layoffs happening in the US side of Twitter has had any impact in the EU division.

Yep, it violated quite a few laws in the US, sadly the penalties are a slap on the wrist so he doesn't care.

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Now that I have criticized one of the false manipulators, let's get down to the truth.

Steam is a business. They like to have as many customers as possible. That means they want an environment that is not hostile or potentially toxic.

I am pro-freedom, but not where my money or business are concerned. If I have the power to expel trouble makers and make more money, I will. It is that simple.

Steam has that power.

Do they censor? Yes.
Are they heavy handed? Yes.
Is it always fair? No.

Is there anything you can do about it? Only one thing, leave and stop using the service. That is the only power you have.

There are many things Steam does that I do not like. However, at the end of the day they provide more value than problems. Therefore, I am still here.

Make a choice. It is that simple.

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Автор сообщения: kaboomboom

Автор сообщения: Dr.Shadowds 🐉

Why you want racial slurs, and swearing?

I can see why Steam don't want people throwing profanity at each other, or calling others racial slurs.

You are either not very bright or you are a deceitful manipulator.

He never said he wanted racial slurs, that is a false statement that you planted.

Try again. This time be more honest.

Read OP post it explains for itself, I asked a simple question, it's not hard to answer, and don't see why you're bother by why I asked a question.

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Автор сообщения: kaboomboom

Автор сообщения: Dr.Shadowds 🐉

Why you want racial slurs, and swearing?

I can see why Steam don't want people throwing profanity at each other, or calling others racial slurs.

You are either not very bright or you are a deceitful manipulator.

He never said he wanted racial slurs, that is a false statement that you planted.

Try again. This time be more honest.

We can go down the entire list of things that are against the guide lines and it doesn't make a difference . The question remains valid as to WHy the op feels they NEED to be able to use racials slurs, threats, political propaganda, etc.