So what is actually the point od this new "steam pricing tool" that recommends prices of games?

[Alcoholic]

Is this just a nice way of saying that devs should charge more for games?

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Is this just a nice way of saying that devs should charge more for games?

"Suggested" pricing has always been just that, a suggestion.

[Alcoholic]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Is this just a nice way of saying that devs should charge more for games?

"Suggested" pricing has always been just that, a suggestion.

:qr:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

[Tito Shivan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

Games aren't the only thing changing prices lately around the world.

[Alcoholic]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

Games aren't the only thing changing prices lately around the world.

Yes, but we are talking about games here

[Aachen]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Yes, but we are talking about games here

That makes broader economic factors somehow irrelevant?

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

If they really followed the suggestions, some games would be cheaper here. Thing is, they don't. "AAA" games, majority are double or close to triple of what the new pricing tool suggests. So yeah, nothing is gonna change here.

[Muppet among Puppets]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

Games aren't the only thing changing prices lately around the world.

It doesnt make sense if everything gets more expensive.
Some things need to be more ecpensive if they cost more.

But if everyone increases everything you not only need to pay more for the thing but also for every single thing else soon.

This is one of the moments when you realize, people stop thinking 2 steps ahead.
"I need more too, now"....... and tomorrow your cart costs double. Because they too.
What then?

[Start_Running]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Muppet among Puppets:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

Games aren't the only thing changing prices lately around the world.

It doesnt make sense if everything gets more expensive.
Some things need to be more ecpensive if they cost more.

But if everyone increases everything you not only need to pay more for the thing but also for every single thing else soon.

This is one of the moments when you realize, people stop thinking 2 steps ahead.
"I need more too, now"....... and tomorrow your cart costs double. Because they too.
What then?

ANd that's the concept of inflation in a nutshell. Your dollars are worth less than the day you earned them. Games have been astoundingly inflation proof, to the point of almost being the reverse.

[Muppet among Puppets]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Start_Running:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Muppet among Puppets:

It doesnt make sense if everything gets more expensive.
Some things need to be more ecpensive if they cost more.

But if everyone increases everything you not only need to pay more for the thing but also for every single thing else soon.

This is one of the moments when you realize, people stop thinking 2 steps ahead.
"I need more too, now"....... and tomorrow your cart costs double. Because they too.
What then?

ANd that's the concept of inflation in a nutshell. Your dollars are worth less than the day you earned them. Games have been astoundingly inflation proof, to the point of almost being the reverse.

Its something that appears to happen to "you", but "you" cause it. That should be taught.

If everyone stays calm, the un-nessesary high prices would even out by natural selection. Instead of having a selection of who can participate and who can no more.

[PsyWarVeteran]

Steam did everyone dirty with this "suggestion". Suddenly 15 year old games with dead companies behind them have their prices increased tenfold, it's laughable.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PsyWarVeteran:

Steam did everyone dirty with this "suggestion". Suddenly 15 year old games with dead companies behind them have their prices increased tenfold, it's laughable.

Only if your currency is worth a tenth of what it was last month.

[Satoru]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย cSg|mc-Hotsauce:

"Suggested" pricing has always been just that, a suggestion.

:qr:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

Note that valve constantly changes their pricing. They always have. They generally did so every year or so. Unless something extremely drastic happens to a currency in the short term that requires a change. Which again is rare since currency changes of 1% in a short time is considered "catastrophic" from a currency perspective. Thus this only happens when things like the Russian Ruble collapses, or when the Argentinan Peso also went into a death spiral.

Devs though almost never re-factor their pricing once a game is released. Meaning that if you released a game in 2015, the pricing conversion is locked in the 2015 conversion unless you go in and manually trigger an update to the pricing. Devs almost never do this, because they're not told to, and also because looking all the utterlly incoherent mouth frothing from this 'non change' users do not understand how this works and thus refactoring your pricing has literally no advantages to the dev even if they knew about it. users would just be complaiing about the price change because there will be winners/loser in any refactor. Keeping it constant is just easier and less drama

Note Valve has refactored their games mroe often, but since well most of their games are already too cheap, and likely aren't really pulling in that much money, no one ever really noticed or cared.

[Dusk of Oolacile]

The weirdest thing is that now that $ and € are on par with each other, suddenly 1$ isn't 1€ anymore, but they're clinging onto the no longer existing difference, even buffing it, suggesting that the € price should be 18% higher.

In addition to this, they're still neglecting regional pricing in Eastern Europe, "suggesting" these prices onto economies with hyperinflation and crashing currencies. We're getting to the point where a single video game costs 20-30% of a monthly salary.

This is all fine and dandy, but as once some wise man said, piracy is a service problem. At this point Valve's "suggestion" actively advocates it.

[Pierce Dalton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Is this just a nice way of saying that devs should charge more for games?

Basically, yes.

[Pierce Dalton]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Tito Shivan:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zorga:

Well if it's suggested then why did some valve games change pricing after all these years? I'm not complaining about that, just asking

Games aren't the only thing changing prices lately around the world.

Cost of production is a thing.

It didn't change for games, though. Unless the boss gave the devs a raise.