"Nice try. Please enter the correct PIN."

[Ninja Gaijin]

Sometimes I accidentally mistype my PIN for family view mode.

I find it quite insulting to be told 'nice try'. Even if it's not meant to be being used by Valve as a pejorative, it feels that way, like it's being used to demean and insult. Maybe that's just the way I read into it, but that's what it feels like to me.

Maybe you could change it to something more neutral like 'That PIN is not correct. Please enter the correct PIN.' or 'You have not entered the correct PIN.' - something worded more neutrally.

'Nice try.' makes me think of an older sibling scoffing at their younger sibling, or something like that.

Anyone else feel similar? I understand I'm probably one of the few that feel this way as it's probably aimed at kids trying to sneak into the unlocked Steam experience from a family view account, but thought I'd post this to see if anyone does feel the same. I am a bit sensitive so after seeing this message enough times I felt like I should let Steam know that they kind of piss me off making me see this for years on end.

[Supafly]

Sorry you posted this in the wrong section. Maybe try creating it in the right section I linked below
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/

[[N]ebsun]

no, I don't enter the pin incorrectly.. if my kid tried and got the wrong pin, it sounds like that message is a good deterrent against trying again

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Supafly:

Sorry you posted this in the wrong section. Maybe try creating it in the right section I linked below
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/

It's not only a suggestion, but also something I wanted to create a discussion about. I'll crosspost it I suppose.

I wanted to find out if others feel the same way as me before suggesting it for Steam to consider.

I touch type and sometimes don't position my fingers correctly, so I sometimes see this message. And it does feel like I'm being talked down to as if I am a kid trying to 'hack' out of family view. I personally use family view to appear offline, not be distracted by people messaging, not have my playtime analysed by friends etc etc. Basically a lot of reasons other than trying to stop a family member accessing something. I don't like being talked down to like a child. People use family view for different reasons but even if that message was aimed at kids, I think it's a bit insulting. I am pretty sensitive though.

[Supafly]

I'm with Nebsun and feel it's aimed at kids that shouldn't be trying to guess the pin by trying random codes.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Ninja Gaijin:

Originally posted by Supafly:

Sorry you posted this in the wrong section. Maybe try creating it in the right section I linked below
https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/10/

It's not only a suggestion, but also something I wanted to create a discussion about. I'll crosspost it I suppose.

I wanted to find out if others feel the same way as me before suggesting it for Steam to consider.

I touch type and sometimes don't position my fingers correctly, so I sometimes see this message. And it does feel like I'm being talked down to as if I am a kid trying to 'hack' out of family view. I personally use family view to appear offline, not be distracted by people messaging, not have my playtime analysed by friends etc etc. Basically a lot of reasons other than trying to stop a family member accessing something. I don't like being talked down to like a child. People use family view for different reasons but even if that message was aimed at kids, I think it's a bit insulting. I am pretty sensitive though.

You are not supposed to be the one who does the "nice try" and got caught.

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by Ninja Gaijin:

It's not only a suggestion, but also something I wanted to create a discussion about. I'll crosspost it I suppose.

I wanted to find out if others feel the same way as me before suggesting it for Steam to consider.

I touch type and sometimes don't position my fingers correctly, so I sometimes see this message. And it does feel like I'm being talked down to as if I am a kid trying to 'hack' out of family view. I personally use family view to appear offline, not be distracted by people messaging, not have my playtime analysed by friends etc etc. Basically a lot of reasons other than trying to stop a family member accessing something. I don't like being talked down to like a child. People use family view for different reasons but even if that message was aimed at kids, I think it's a bit insulting. I am pretty sensitive though.

You are not supposed to be the one who does the "nice try" and got caught.

Yes, but it happens. Maybe I'm an edge case but sometimes my fingers slip or shake, my keyboard chatters or I have finger pain from arthritis. Or I just misplaced my touch typing.
'Got caught' - again intimating that I'm doing something wrong by sometimes getting my pin wrong! A person can and does sometimes enter the wrong information inadvertently..

I get that I'm almost certainly an edge case but thought I'd offer my experience for Valve to consider.

I accept they'll probably never change it, but any/every time I see it I feel a bit insulted/annoyed by it. It's like steam is goading me for not being super careful typing in my pin.

[Muppet among Puppets]

If you log in and it says
Failed!
you also dont need to think that you fail.

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

If you log in and it says
Failed!
you also dont need to think that you fail.

I don't log in every time I start steam, I set it to log in automatically, so I never see that message.
Failed can mean a loss of internet in that instance too, it's not just about credentials iirc.

It's not as rude as 'Nice try.' in my opinion. It's just not needed. It could just say 'Wrong PIN.' instead. Is any kid actually going to try 9999 PINs??? I don't think you need to try to further dissuade them from attempting that with a 'Nice try.' message to try to irk them.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Imagine it says that as someone would say "nice try" to acknowledge that you tried, and it was nice.

Then your problem is solved.

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Imagine it says that as someone would say "nice try" to acknowledge that you tried, and it was nice.

Then your problem is solved.

But it was a BAD try, not a nice one lol. I'd literally rather it said 'FAILED - TRY AGAIN!'

[Aluvian Darkstar]

Challenge Gaben to a duel. Such insults should not stand, you must defend your honour!

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Aluvian Darkstar:

Challenge Gaben to a duel. Such insults should not stand, you must defend your honour!

Yes, he must be the one responsible!!

[Muppet among Puppets]

Originally posted by Ninja Gaijin:

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Imagine it says that as someone would say "nice try" to acknowledge that you tried, and it was nice.

Then your problem is solved.

But it was a BAD try, not a nice one lol. I'd literally rather it said 'FAILED - TRY AGAIN!'

Nice try is way more positive than failed

[Supafly]

Originally posted by Muppet among Puppets:

Originally posted by Ninja Gaijin:

But it was a BAD try, not a nice one lol. I'd literally rather it said 'FAILED - TRY AGAIN!'

Nice try is way more positive than failed

makes me think of Positive Reinforcement over Negative Punishment

[NuLife]

really ur taking offence to that LOL, funniest shizzle i heard for a while