Dharlequin Sep 3, 2022 @ 1:15pm
Steam constantly asks me for login and Guard code
Every time I turn on VPN, or turn off, Steam decides to asks me for my password and Guard code again. This is frustrating as ****. This is the same device, c'mon, remember it already!
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You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.
Joke Sep 3, 2022 @ 2:09pm 
When you login, steam creates a security token that identifies you, and puts it in a cookie on your PC.
Apparently the token includes your IP address, to prevent someone to access your account if they could somehow steal your cookie (via malware probably).

So when your IP address changes, your security token becomes invalid because the stored IP address doesn't match your new IP address.
Thermal Lance Sep 3, 2022 @ 2:11pm 
Well, given that the whole point of a VPN is to mask the origin to begin with.

I find this last sentence kinda funny.
Chika Ogiue Sep 3, 2022 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.

Not that it really matters. IP address is no longer taken into account when doing anything that an VPN would have been advantageous for. e.g., buying games. Your store region hasn't been tied to IP address for the better part of two years now.

Besides, Valve (in certain fringe cases) used to suggest themselves that customers use VPNs.
Thermal Lance Sep 3, 2022 @ 7:35pm 
Valve probably only care about VPNs if you try to use it to abusé regional pricing. Which is why the payment method needs to be registered to the region the game is bought from.
Dharlequin Sep 3, 2022 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.
I am not using it for Steam, I am using it for other purposes. It does not even concearn Steam...
Dharlequin Sep 3, 2022 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Well, given that the whole point of a VPN is to mask the origin to begin with.

I find this last sentence kinda funny.
It should hide the originating IP. But Steam app should know which device it is run on. And it is always the same darn device.

Other applications and websites don't log me out two times a day, only Steam.
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Sep 3, 2022 @ 11:35pm 
Originally posted by Joke:
When you login, steam creates a security token that identifies you, and puts it in a cookie on your PC.
Apparently the token includes your IP address, to prevent someone to access your account if they could somehow steal your cookie (via malware probably).

So when your IP address changes, your security token becomes invalid because the stored IP address doesn't match your new IP address.
^This.

Originally posted by Dharlequin:
Originally posted by Thermal Lance:
Well, given that the whole point of a VPN is to mask the origin to begin with.

I find this last sentence kinda funny.
It should hide the originating IP. But Steam app should know which device it is run on. And it is always the same darn device.

Other applications and websites don't log me out two times a day, only Steam.
Oh well, if you don't like Steam security system, that a you problem than anyone else.

Originally posted by Dharlequin:
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.
I am not using it for Steam, I am using it for other purposes. It does not even concearn Steam...
So why even complain if not using it for Steam. If trying to do something with Steam, or on Steam, then clearly you're using it for Steam.
Last edited by Dr.Shadowds 🐉; Sep 3, 2022 @ 11:36pm
Originally posted by Chika Ogiue:
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.

Not that it really matters. IP address is no longer taken into account when doing anything that an VPN would have been advantageous for. e.g., buying games. Your store region hasn't been tied to IP address for the better part of two years now.

Besides, Valve (in certain fringe cases) used to suggest themselves that customers use VPNs.

All I'm saying is what it says in the SSA.

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement/

You agree that you will not use IP proxying or other methods to disguise the place of your residence, whether to circumvent geographical restrictions on game content, to order or purchase at pricing not applicable to your geography, or for any other purpose. If you do this, Valve may terminate your access to your Account.


Does Valve actually crack down on it? Not usually I dont think, unless you are actively trying some shady stuff. Still, it's in there.



Originally posted by Dharlequin:
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
You are not allowed to use VPN for Steam in the first place.
I am not using it for Steam, I am using it for other purposes. It does not even concearn Steam...

Clearly you are, otherwise you wouldn't complain about Steam not working while using VPN.
Last edited by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥); Sep 3, 2022 @ 11:39pm
Dharlequin Sep 4, 2022 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Unn4m3d (♥AUT♥):
Clearly you are, otherwise you wouldn't complain about Steam not working while using VPN.


Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
So why even complain if not using it for Steam. If trying to do something with Steam, or on Steam, then clearly you're using it for Steam.

It's always funny, when you tell someone that you are not doing something, and they are like "Yep, of course you are", because apparently they are living with me here and know what I do and why I do it better than me.
Satoru Sep 4, 2022 @ 7:51am 
I mean basically from Steam's perspective you are functionally logging in from different regions constantly so woudln't you want them to ask for additional authentication in that scenario.

Note that I use a VPN for work and steam never logs me out when doing so. So you're basically trying to hide your country of origin for other reasons.

Originally posted by Dharlequin:
It's always funny, when you tell someone that you are not doing something, and they are like "Yep, of course you are", because apparently they are living with me here and know what I do and why I do it better than me.

One might find it more amusing that you constantly are dodging the question of why you are using a VPN as opposed to answering the question asked.

If you want to be all high and mighty about it, by all means please tell everyone why you are using a VPN.
Last edited by Satoru; Sep 4, 2022 @ 7:52am
Dharlequin Sep 4, 2022 @ 7:56am 
Well, if you really must know, I'm usuing VPN to access Twitter and Instagram. While it is turned on, I might want to run Steam at the same time. And ooops, I have to login again. Then I turn off the VPN, and oh, I have to login once again. Because screw me, that's why. Entering password alone might cause less frustration, but no! I have to enter Steam Guard code every darn time.

One might find it more amusing that you constantly are dodging the question of why you are using a VPN as opposed to answering the question asked.
No one actually asked, just made fun and assumptions.

So you're basically trying to hide your country of origin for other reasons.
As I am repeating for a hundredth time, not from Steam.

so woudln't you want them to ask for additional authentication in that scenario.
Or it could just remember the same two regions and stop asking.
Last edited by Dharlequin; Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:08am
Dr.Shadowds 🐉 Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Dharlequin:
Well, if you really must know, I'm usuing VPN to access Twitter and Instagram. While it is turned on, I might want to run Steam at the same time. And ooops, I have to login again. Then I turn off the VPN, and oh, I have to login once again. Because screw me, that's why. Entering password alone might cause less frustration, but no! I have to enter Steam Guard code every darn time.
Can opt into new Steam beta, and opt into steam guard mobile app beta as well. They added QR scanning, no typing at all, no codes to enter, you scan with phone, it shows map to confirm it you and click approve to login that all, just a click of a button on your phone.


Have you considered using browser extension VPN instead of app? Or checked if app only target said app wanted affected? I heard Nord VPN does have browser extension, which only affects browser, and nothing else such as Steam. Idk if you pay for your VPN, or not.
Last edited by Dr.Shadowds 🐉; Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:22am
Originally posted by Dharlequin:


Originally posted by Dr.Shadowds 🐉:
So why even complain if not using it for Steam. If trying to do something with Steam, or on Steam, then clearly you're using it for Steam.

It's always funny, when you tell someone that you are not doing something, and they are like "Yep, of course you are", because apparently they are living with me here and know what I do and why I do it better than me.


Even if you don't use it specifically FOR Steam, you use it WITH Steam, so while it's on you also use it FOR Steam.

Whether or not you like that fact does not matter.
Satoru Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:58am 
There’s literally no need to use a VPN for Twitter and IG………
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