So Steams front store page now looks like an adult manga/anime shop

[GRIMM]

This is getting out of hand.

I really don't see any way of getting rid of this clutter, other than to go into each game and click "not interested", but then this does not affect the rest of the feed, just the top scrolling section.

Steam really needs to have a better way of personalizing the main store page for customers.

Maybe allowing you to pick a bunch of your favorite games, and using that data to generate a feed. Don't just go by what is in someones collection, since some of us collect games.

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Ogami님이 먼저 게시:

mkess님이 먼저 게시:

We don't need to. We are playing murder simulators, manga based JRPG and other games, because they are fun to play, and, that is very important, not reality.

Because all the reasons of the SJW are based on their own unsolved problems. They think, we have to justify that we are playing these games. But we do not have to.

THIS ^^^^^^


As long as something is fiction it MUST be 100% legal.
Because when we try to censor/forbid purely fictional products just because we dont like the content, then we enter "thought police" territory. And that is a slippery road to dictatorship.
I just dont play games that i dont like, i would never take them away from people who do.

Same

You know whenever someone brings up that argument of "oh yeah sick weaboo games, rabl rabl prdophilia rabl rabl illegal" it reminds me that certain "stop liking things I dont like" meme

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

Defend it all you like, I'm not the only person who has explained the difference, or why it is sick and twisted that these "games" are popular.
Maybe think about telling a doctor about your sexual attraction to underage girls, see what he says.

[Ogami]

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

Defend it all you like, I'm not the only person who has explained the difference, or why it is sick and twisted that these "games" are popular.
Maybe think about telling a doctor about your sexual attraction to underage girls, see what he says.

I dont know, i dont care about those games in one way or another. You on the other hand seem rather obsessed with them. Maybe talk to your therapist about those unresolved issues?
Most of the time people who scream the loudest are the ones who secretly crave it.
See all those homophobes who come out as gay later. So if you see those games and you have to think of pedophila and child sex then that says way more about you then those games.

[76561198001062896]

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

Defend it all you like, I'm not the only person who has explained the difference, or why it is sick and twisted that these "games" are popular.
Maybe think about telling a doctor about your sexual attraction to underage girls, see what he says.

Oh classy "if you arent with us you are against us" strawman argument

Also self projecting much

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

So I'm a closet pedophile for hating pedophilia? Hmmm.

If you DON'T see anything wrong with underage girls naked and sexualised, there is definitely something wrong.
And if you don't see the difference between some harmless escapism and child pornography (however they try to hide it, this is child pornography, no two ways about it), then there is DEFINITELY something wrong with you.

How many times have I said that if it were just a game about sex, I wouldn't be bothered about it at all.
But child sex? You're damn right I get emotional and I get a bit obsessed.

Put it this way, would it bother you if they were real life girls instead of cartoon girls?
If not, hand yourself in to the police immediately.
If so, what's the difference in the mindset of the person jerking off to it either way? That is still a sick and twisted mind, and it is still worrying that there are so many people who get off on it.

[76561198001062896]

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

So I'm a closet pedophile for hating pedophilia? Hmmm.

If you DON'T see anything wrong with underage girls naked and sexualised, there is definitely something wrong.
And if you don't see the difference between some harmless escapism and child pornography (however they try to hide it, this is child pornography, no two ways about it), then there is DEFINITELY something wrong with you.

How many times have I said that if it were just a game about sex, I wouldn't be bothered about it at all.
But child sex? You're damn right I get emotional and I get a bit obsessed.

Put it this way, would it bother you if they were real life girls instead of cartoon girls?
If not, hand yourself in to the police immediately.
If so, what's the difference in the mindset of the person jerking off to it either way? That is still a sick and twisted mind, and it is still worrying that there are so many people who get off on it.

Except that no game on steam features loli content last time I checked.

Also your personal opinion about what is a pedophile content means legally just about nothing in the legal world.

And please come up with some actual argument instead of pretending that we somehow support CP content just because we proved your points wrong.


Btw you are just as free to report games you suspect of pedophilia as anyone else, or you may as well start a legal case

Just be mindful that "Its pedophile content because the drawing looks like one despite all the characters being 18 years old or more" wont hold in a court.

Im doubtful that sexual predators would seek up on steam for content because there is no such here.

PS: wanna see an actual creepy game about sexual abuse, go look up that certain japanese game that got literally banned from everywhere (wont name it here but you can easily find it)

Now THATS an actual disgusting game that should have never been made, yet ppl lose their mind over Sakura games and whatsnot.

[Wobb the Great and Terrible!!!!!]

So an obviously underage girl, in schoolgirl uniform and everything, being sexualised, sprayed with white foam and with HUGE knockers sticking out of her shirt.... that's not child sexualisation at all?

Regardless of how they dress it up, or what excuses people use, that is child pornography, there is no other way to describe it.
These girls are obviously underage, and not by a year or two like Traci Lords was, but by a good few years.
It's they like take pre-teen girls, and stick huge tits on them (impossible tits, by the way, to do nothing other than turn on weirdos), and then put them in all kinds of compromising positions.
And that's just from seeing the steam storefront, without even looking at the games in any more detail. You don't need to look into a magazine with a naked boy on the front to know it's going to have more naked child pictures in it, right?

You can keep defending it. I'll happily follow my moral compass in the right direction. It's never steered me wrong before, in over 40 years of using it.

Oh and I tried reporting them. They obviously have twisted things just enough to stay on legal side of the law. Doesn't mean it isn't wrong just because they know how to get around it.

My problem is more with how many people seem to get off on this. I never knew how many PC gamers were such sick twisted perverts this way.

[76561198001062896]

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

So an obviously underage girl, in schoolgirl uniform and everything, being sexualised, sprayed with white foam and with HUGE knockers sticking out of her shirt.... that's not child sexualisation at all?

Regardless of how they dress it up, or what excuses people use, that is child pornography, there is no other way to describe it.
These girls are obviously underage, and not by a year or two like Traci Lords was, but by a good few years.
It's they like take pre-teen girls, and stick huge tits on them (impossible tits, by the way, to do nothing other than turn on weirdos), and then put them in all kinds of compromising positions.
And that's just from seeing the steam storefront, without even looking at the games in any more detail. You don't need to look into a magazine with a naked boy on the front to know it's going to have more naked child pictures in it, right?

You can keep defending it. I'll happily follow my moral compass in the right direction. It's never steered me wrong before, in over 40 years of using it.

Obviously underaged says who exactly?

Problem is you keep parroting the same tired accusations without explaining your point.


Im not defending anything but since you clearly decided that we apparently do, whatever

I dont feel like arguing with clueless people, sorry.


And feminists and SJW-s also follow their mor compass, doesnt mean they cannot be proven wrong.

With all due respect if you dont want to hear others opinion just dont use the forums as thats what im getting out of your replies.

[Ogami]

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

So I'm a closet pedophile for hating pedophilia? Hmmm.

If you DON'T see anything wrong with underage girls naked and sexualised, there is definitely something wrong.

There is already one big problem. "underage" .
First , a drawing can not be underage since its not alive. It has no biological age.
Second, what consists of underage varys wildly across countries.
For example the age of consent here in germany is 14, its 13 in Japan.
Most of europe has it between 13 and 16.
So these big breasted high school girls in those games would not even be illegal if it
were real girls.

Also you are using pedophilia wrong. As so many. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prebucent children. Before puberty. None of the characters in those japanese games fall under that.
If you mean the sexual attraction to teenagers, thats called "ephebolia" and is by the way not a mental disorder like pedophila according to the World Health Organization.
The more you know.

PS: wanna see an actual creepy game about sexual abuse, go look up that certain japanese game that got literally banned from everywhere (wont name it here but you can easily find it)

You mean Rapelay. Which is really just a run of the mill porn game in japan. There are hundreds of games like that on the japanese market and there exist far, far worse.
But yes, i also would defend the right to exist for those games.
You cant choose to stand and defend a principal but only pick the parts you agree with.
So even if i dont like those kinda games nor would i play them i still would defend anyone who wants to play them.

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Ogami님이 먼저 게시:

wobbler님이 먼저 게시:

So I'm a closet pedophile for hating pedophilia? Hmmm.

If you DON'T see anything wrong with underage girls naked and sexualised, there is definitely something wrong.

There is already one big problem. "underage" .
First , a drawing can not be underage since its not alive. It has no biological age.
Second, what consists of underage varys wildly across countries.
For example the age of consent here in germany is 14, its 13 in Japan.
Most of europe has it between 13 and 16.
So these big breasted high school girls in those games would not even be illegal if it
were real girls.

Also you are using pedophilia wrong. As so many. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction to prebucent children. Before puberty. None of the characters in those japanese games fall under that.
If you mean the sexual attraction to teenagers, thats called "ephebolia" and is by the way not a mental disorder like pedophila according to the World Health Organization.
The more you know.

I have a feeling he refuses to acknowledge any opinion that differs from his imho

Im just facepalming my desk right now due to the sheer nonsensical "arguments" he has

[76561198001062896]

Ogami, do you whats even more hilarious? That those "wicked" porn games helped keeping down the percentage of sexual assaults in Japan according to statistics.


Hate to sounds like the devil's advocate but I would rather see those sexual predators jacking off with porn games than actually harassing kids IMHO

Though sex offenders should be all castrated/sterilised, no exception

[Ogami]

Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:

Ogami, do you whats even more hilarious? That those "wicked" porn games helped keeping down the percentage of sexual assaults in Japan according to statistics.

I know. Japan has freely available lolicon porn in form of manga, video games and anime.
And im not talking about these games on Steam, im talking about " yes that are supposed to be underage children having sex" material.
You can buy that freely in Japan.
And you know what? Japan has the lowest child abuse percentage of any first world country.
Maybe there is some correlation here, just saying.

[Gallifrey - CSSC Gaming Founder]

Ogami님이 먼저 게시:

Zetikla님이 먼저 게시:

Ogami, do you whats even more hilarious? That those "wicked" porn games helped keeping down the percentage of sexual assaults in Japan according to statistics.

I know. Japan has freely available lolicon porn in form of manga, video games and anime.
And im not talking about these games on Steam, im talking about " yes that are supposed to be underage children having sex" material.
You can buy that freely in Japan.
And you know what? Japan has the lowest child abuse percentage of any first world country.
Maybe there is some correlation here, just saying.

However most Western research supports a very strong correlation between people whom access sexual images of children and those that abuse them.

Does Japan have a low rate of child abuse or a low rate of convictions for child abuse ? Not necessarily same thing.

I think that Western research is a very strong reason to keep sexualised images of children off Steam.

S.x.

[Reported.]

gallifrey님이 먼저 게시:

Ogami님이 먼저 게시:

I know. Japan has freely available lolicon porn in form of manga, video games and anime.
And im not talking about these games on Steam, im talking about " yes that are supposed to be underage children having sex" material.
You can buy that freely in Japan.
And you know what? Japan has the lowest child abuse percentage of any first world country.
Maybe there is some correlation here, just saying.

However most Western research supports a very strong correlation between people whom access sexual images of children and those that abuse them.

Does Japan have a low rate of child abuse or a low rate of convictions for child abuse ? Not necessarily same thing.

I think that Western research is a very strong reason to keep sexualised images of children off Steam.

S.x.

Plus some jurisdictions don't see a difference between cartoon child pornography and real child pornography. And ephebolial content regardless of content type is judged just as harshly in some jurisdictions too. Another major reason to keep such content off Steam.