Valve must allow ChäoS;HEAd Noah

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Valve allows lots of trash, russian bear vodka s**t, furry degenerate s**t, sex with hitler, acquitted, lock her up alt-right junk but not the classic cult game from a trusted known publisher?
https://www.spike-chunsoft.com/news/regarding-the-steam-version-of-chaoshead-noah/

Release Chaos;HeaD Noah here.

Update from 7 October:
We have won!!!
https://www.spike-chunsoft.com/news/update-steam-version-of-chaoshead-noah/

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And again. I wonder how many of these Bans are engineered by dev/pubs to drum up publicity from the faux drama.

We're only really hearing oneside of the story. and there's more to this than is being said. I'm more apt to give the benefit of the doubt to the side that does not stand to gain from free publicity. We honestly don't know what they submitted to Steam foir approval. Keep that in mind.

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Escrito originalmente por KittenGrindr:

There are literally hundreds of adult anime shovelware games.

Here, fixed it for you.

That can be said in addition to what you have said . Also. M8. You don't go editing other people's quotes. That's a No-No.

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Escrito originalmente por Mad Scientist:

What, out of anything, leads you to believe that?

" it would require changes to the game's content." was the main vague given reason as to why it was declined. This could be content that is already used/detected in something else, that it appears to be releasing an identical game to a banned game for content/files detected, copyright, or any other ones. If a Developer is banned or is seen as evading a ban by making a new developer account, then anything they try to release is banned. There's other reasons a game would be declined/banned as well.


They have many anime, visual novel and hentai games.

Did anyone look around to see why the games are not going to be sold?

The weird thing is, this game is rated by the ESRB and will be on the Switch.

It makes no sense Valve banned it.

And that's why I'm Sus. We've seen literal pornographic game with uncensored genetalia, in near photiorealism doing every single act in the Kama Sutra., and a few that aren't.

And that the game is getting opublished on Nintendo's Switch? Yeah. My sus meter is rising fast. Also the word 'ban' and its usage is a little sus.

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The weird thing is, this game is rated by the ESRB and will be on the Switch.

It makes no sense Valve banned it.

When a Developer is overly vague, always question that. The last Developer that wanted people to bug Steam to unban a game, re-released almost a duplicate game, and was already a banned developer on another account.

Without one party giving the honest reason, I tend to not believe the "banned for no reason" kind of posts/threads.

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https://www.valvesoftware.com/en/contact?contact-person=Gabe%20Newell

This might work, we must contact gabe newell to get that xenophobic steam store moderator out of the job and blacklisted!

This remind me of Hatred (game) removed in 2014. Maybe it should work.
I think it's not the fault of the moderator, but the policy of the Steam. The Steam owner should bring this PROBLEM to their attention.
Why trash zoophilia games allowed on Steam instead of graphic novels that have big artistic value?..

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With that principle in mind, we've decided that the right approach is to allow everything onto the Steam Store, except for things that we decide are illegal, or straight up trolling.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1666776116200553082

Funny

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The idea these companies are engineering drama is ridiculous. Many of these companies especially visual novel companies have stated Steam sales account for 90%+ of sales when launching on multiple storefronts. Not releasing on steam kills their sales and the publicity they get from these bans almost never makes up for the development and time they put into trying to get onto Steam. This has left many cases of series being incomplete on Steam because 1 or more games in a series get banned while others were allowed which keeps fracturing potential sales and chaos head Noah is no exception to this now.

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Escrito originalmente por etch:

The idea these companies are engineering drama is ridiculous. Many of these companies especially visual novel companies have stated Steam sales account for 90%+ of sales when launching on multiple storefronts. Not releasing on steam kills their sales and the publicity they get from these bans almost never makes up for the development and time they put into trying to get onto Steam. This has left many cases of series being incomplete on Steam because 1 or more games in a series get banned while others were allowed which keeps fracturing potential sales and chaos head Noah is no exception to this now.

Spike sun should sue the xenophobic steam store moderator

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Escrito originalmente por xHans:

Here, fixed it for you.

Editing quotes is against guidelines. Also, it isn't shovelware just because you don't like it.

Read the guidelines and there's no mention of it, read the guidelines and you're literally backseat moderating. All you're doing by mistakenly pointing that out is deviating from the serious topic which is Steam inconsistency and unclear stance on which games gets allowed and which doesn't.

If steam says they won't allow games because it's illegal or straight up trolling then I guess Nintendo is doing some illegal things huh?

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Escrito originalmente por KittenGrindr:

Editing quotes is against guidelines. Also, it isn't shovelware just because you don't like it.

Read the guidelines and there's no mention of it, read the guidelines and you're literally backseat moderating. All you're doing by mistakenly pointing that out is deviating from the serious topic which is Steam inconsistency and unclear stance on which games gets allowed and which doesn't.

If steam says they won't allow games because it's illegal or straight up trolling then I guess Nintendo is doing some illegal things huh?

Except Steam has banned games that weren't illegal.

Considering video games can't be illegal.

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Escrito originalmente por etch:

The idea these companies are engineering drama is ridiculous. Many of these companies especially visual novel companies have stated Steam sales account for 90%+ of sales when launching on multiple storefronts. Not releasing on steam kills their sales and the publicity they get from these bans almost never makes up for the development and time they put into trying to get onto Steam. This has left many cases of series being incomplete on Steam because 1 or more games in a series get banned while others were allowed which keeps fracturing potential sales and chaos head Noah is no exception to this now.

Spike sun should sue the xenophobic steam store moderator

If they were xenophopbic why are there so many asian developed games on Steam.

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The idea these companies are engineering drama is ridiculous. Many of these companies especially visual novel companies have stated Steam sales account for 90%+ of sales when launching on multiple storefronts.

Yeah and you know what would drive them sales numbers higher... manufacturing false drama around 'Oh THEY don't want you to play this game we made for you". then a little later, "Oh hey they cracked and finally let us publish this game for you guys"

And again when there are bonuses involved, like say making x sales on a particular platform. Yeah. It might be worth delaying the game on STeam for a bit.

You see when only one side is speaking in Vague terms and the otherside is professional enough not to court the rumor mill. you get what is a skewed story . What we do know is Valve has published lots of games with varying degrees of Zgore, nudity, sexuial content, but soft, and explcit, in just about every representational art style. So the question becomes. WHat would steam ban that famouslyly censorious Nintendo won't?

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Valve is downright inconsistent with what they allow and disallows on the platform. The visual novel cult-classic "Full metal demon Muramasa" was also not allowed, which is mind-boggling. Full metal demon Muramasa was even allowed on gog. But steam previously allowed games like "Rape Day" and "AIDS Simulator" in the past and only removed them when there was an outcry. But they deny games such as "Meteor World Actor" and "Amatsutsumi"? from the get-go?
Steam dislikes high-profile visual novels.
I'd be 100% fine with it (albeit a little moody about it) if they disapproved of the aforementioned titles. IF they were consistent with what they allowed and disallowed.

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Valve is downright inconsistent with what they allow and disallows on the platform. The visual novel cult-classic "Full metal demon Muramasa" was also not allowed, which is mind-boggling. Full metal demon Muramasa was even allowed on gog. But steam previously allowed games like "Rape Day" and "AIDS Simulator" in the past and only removed them when there was an outcry. But they deny games such as "Meteor World Actor" and "Amatsutsumi"? from the get-go?
Steam dislikes high-profile visual novels.
I'd be 100% fine with it (albeit a little moody about it) if they disapproved of the aforementioned titles. IF they were consistent with what they allowed and disallowed.

And you know what is consistent. We're only hearing the version the dev/pubs are telling. There likely is likely consistency, but there's also likely a heft dose of omission by the dev/pubs on these matters.

Remember when people tell stories about events they generally tell the stories in ways that majke themselves look good.

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What else do you expect them to say? It makes no sense to lie about a game being rejected or banned by Valve when it a significant portion of their potential revenue. It is well known Valve does not elaborate on why things get banned, many different publishers have stated this. You have yet to provide a reason beyond them wanting to make themselves look good. They will not see the same number of sales without a Steam release for the PC port regardless of drama surrounding it.

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What else do you expect them to say? It makes no sense to lie about a game being rejected or banned by Valve when it a significant portion of their potential revenue.

Well I already pointed out one reason. and another is to basically say what specifically Valve flagged which seems to be something these dev/pubs are almost always Mum on.

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It is well known Valve does not elaborate on why things get banned, many different publishers have stated this.

And a few of them have been shown to have been speaking falsely.
Again. We only tend to hear about this, from the dev/pubs side. When you only hear the story from oneside...always turn your critical thinking up to maximum.

What's interesting is, that the issue here seems to be something they can't fix so it's not something like a scene or something, it's something core to the game which makes it all the more baffling. It might be an improperly applied rating submitted by the dev./pub for all wee know.

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You have yet to provide a reason beyond them wanting to make themselves look good. They will not see the same number of sales without a Steam release for the PC port regardless of drama surrounding it.

You're assuming that there will be No STeam release or that Nintendo didn't slip them a little something for a bit of the old exclusivity. In both cases they'd have very good reasons to stretch the truth a little.

What we do know is that they haven't said what Valve flagged them for and its rather unlikely that Valve would flag them for something that Nintendo of all companies wouldn't. That's the part that set my Sus alarm off.


Now if the dev/pub had come out and said Nintendo paid us for timed exclusive for the switch.. that would have met with not a small a mount of backlash that really would have impacted their sales. Much easier to say mean Valve won't let us publish (though I'm sure they'll come around In say a year)

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Escrito originalmente por Start_Running:

Escrito originalmente por Nexsysis:

Valve is downright inconsistent with what they allow and disallows on the platform. The visual novel cult-classic "Full metal demon Muramasa" was also not allowed, which is mind-boggling. Full metal demon Muramasa was even allowed on gog. But steam previously allowed games like "Rape Day" and "AIDS Simulator" in the past and only removed them when there was an outcry. But they deny games such as "Meteor World Actor" and "Amatsutsumi"? from the get-go?
Steam dislikes high-profile visual novels.
I'd be 100% fine with it (albeit a little moody about it) if they disapproved of the aforementioned titles. IF they were consistent with what they allowed and disallowed.

And you know what is consistent. We're only hearing the version the dev/pubs are telling. There likely is likely consistency, but there's also likely a heft dose of omission by the dev/pubs on these matters.

Remember when people tell stories about events they generally tell the stories in ways that majke themselves look good.

And you know what is consistent? The store assets (images) made public when the game banned by Steam, not devs. This happened before and it happens now, it's always happens.
https://steamdb.info/app/1961950/history/