Banned for "piracy" for a game that was barely just announced, in a Community Hub of a different game?

[Qobura]

Is there any kind of coordination on what constitutes a 'ridiculous' ban? It's developer backlash for a stated negative opinion on a bait-and-switch Epic platform release of a future title and my statement that I would "wait until it was available elsewhere".

[RiO]

Początkowo opublikowane przez MancSoulja:

There's no "permanent record" and Steam support will never overturn a ban given by a game dev, all they say is "That hub has its own rules on top of Steam's community guidelines".

From word of mouth of one of the ex volunteer moderation crew, all bans and warnings are tracked and can influence future moderation decisions.

Also; next to the ability to reply directly to a ban/warning to appeal it with the moderators of the forum hub where it was issued, all those reports have a link to directly contact Steam Support in case the forum hub owner is being unreasonable.

[1984]

What game btw?

[wesnef]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Ice Mountain:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cathulhu:

If you would have written Steam instead of elsewhere it wouldn't have looked like you're donning the pirate hat.

Those who hate EGS, also tend to be huge supporters of software piracy. So he said what he meant, and the developer was smart enough to know what he meant.

I'm not a fan of EGS, and I had no idea about that other part. I read his comment as waiting for it to come to Steam/GoG/whatever. /shrug

[Cathulhu]

But it can easily be seen a different way due to its vague nature, which is par for the course when referring to pirating games.

[Judgmental Amaterasu]

Początkowo opublikowane przez RiO:

Początkowo opublikowane przez MancSoulja:

There's no "permanent record" and Steam support will never overturn a ban given by a game dev, all they say is "That hub has its own rules on top of Steam's community guidelines".

From word of mouth of one of the ex volunteer moderation crew, all bans and warnings are tracked and can influence future moderation decisions.

Also; next to the ability to reply directly to a ban/warning to appeal it with the moderators of the forum hub where it was issued, all those reports have a link to directly contact Steam Support in case the forum hub owner is being unreasonable.

Twisting words as usual. The influence is in regards to the level of punishment, not whether or not you're more or less likely to be moderated.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cathulhu:

If you would have written Steam instead of elsewhere it wouldn't have looked like you're donning the pirate hat.

And if someone says, he wont get it on epic........ already a banable offence?
If its only sold on epic, that could be interpreted as whatever!

I think, the ban was wrong.

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Kobura:

Is there any kind of coordination on what constitutes a 'ridiculous' ban? It's developer backlash for a stated negative opinion on a bait-and-switch Epic platform release of a future title and my statement that I would "wait until it was available elsewhere".

You were suggesting piracy, and that is against Steam Community rules. Just because some game hubs *cough*Sega*cough* are unmoderated in this subject doesn't mean it isn't against the rules. The rules used to call for a permanent Community ban on the first offense.

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cathulhu:

If you would have written Steam instead of elsewhere it wouldn't have looked like you're donning the pirate hat.

And if someone says, he wont get it on epic........ already a banable offence?
If its only sold on epic, that could be interpreted as whatever!

I think, the ban was wrong.

If they said elsewhere to protest Epic and it was on the Steam forums, let's presume the platforms that it would eventually be legally available on are Epic (the one hated against) and Steam (which of course is not "elsewhere." In that case they are suggesting something illegal.

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Cathulhu:

But it can easily be seen a different way due to its vague nature, which is par for the course when referring to pirating games.

Kind of like how people share gun plans on Reddit with vague references to the source, or share pirated content using links encoded in BASE64 to get around the filters.

[RiO]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Judgmental Amaterasu:

Początkowo opublikowane przez RiO:

From word of mouth of one of the ex volunteer moderation crew, all bans and warnings are tracked and can influence future moderation decisions.

Also; next to the ability to reply directly to a ban/warning to appeal it with the moderators of the forum hub where it was issued, all those reports have a link to directly contact Steam Support in case the forum hub owner is being unreasonable.

Twisting words as usual. The influence is in regards to the level of punishment, not whether or not you're more or less likely to be moderated.

Which means it influences future moderation decisions; i.e. influences the decision of how tough a penalty you'll be getting for an infraction of the rules.

And "twisting words as usual," really? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black; considering it's you who is trying to insinuate something here about what I wrote. You honor your chosen screen name. "Judgmental Amaterasu" indeed.

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

And if someone says, he wont get it on epic........ already a banable offence?
If its only sold on epic, that could be interpreted as whatever!

I think, the ban was wrong.

If they said elsewhere to protest Epic and it was on the Steam forums, let's presume the platforms that it would eventually be legally available on are Epic (the one hated against) and Steam (which of course is not "elsewhere." In that case they are suggesting something illegal.

There's also the option of third-party key sellers, right?
Though admittedly; a lot here depends on the exact context of what was originally posted, which we're not privy to anymore.

(And which is why I also prefaced my first post in this thread with the precondition: on the off-chance that OP was being genuine)

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez RiO:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

If they said elsewhere to protest Epic and it was on the Steam forums, let's presume the platforms that it would eventually be legally available on are Epic (the one hated against) and Steam (which of course is not "elsewhere." In that case they are suggesting something illegal.

There's also the option of third-party key sellers, right?
Though admittedly; a lot here depends on the exact context of what was originally posted, which we're not privy to anymore.

(And which is why I also prefaced my first post in this thread with the precondition: on the off-chance that OP was being genuine)

Which is why I had said platform and not store. Steam and Epic are both stores and platforms, but third party sellers are just stores and thus only offer codes redeemable on the platforms for said games.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

And if someone says, he wont get it on epic........ already a banable offence?
If its only sold on epic, that could be interpreted as whatever!

I think, the ban was wrong.

If they said elsewhere to protest Epic and it was on the Steam forums, let's presume the platforms that it would eventually be legally available on are Epic (the one hated against) and Steam (which of course is not "elsewhere." In that case they are suggesting something illegal.

But waiting to not get games on epic is what people do all the time.
They wait until its not exclusive anymore.

There is nothing wrong with it. It is suggesting to wait.

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

If they said elsewhere to protest Epic and it was on the Steam forums, let's presume the platforms that it would eventually be legally available on are Epic (the one hated against) and Steam (which of course is not "elsewhere." In that case they are suggesting something illegal.

But waiting to not get games on epic is what people do all the time.
They wait until its not exclusive anymore.

There is nothing wrong with it. It is suggesting to wait.

If he said wait until it was on Steam then that would seem safe.

[Muppet among Puppets]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

But waiting to not get games on epic is what people do all the time.
They wait until its not exclusive anymore.

There is nothing wrong with it. It is suggesting to wait.

If he said wait until it was on Steam then that would seem safe.

I understood what he meant.

Just because someone interpreted what he said as something, does not mean its actually what was said.

[Crashed]

Początkowo opublikowane przez Muppet among Puppets:

Początkowo opublikowane przez Crashed:

If he said wait until it was on Steam then that would seem safe.

I understood what he meant.

Just because someone interpreted what he said as something, does not mean its actually what was said.

If there wasn't so much abuse on the forums, I'd be more inclined to believe OP.