Steam Game Pass

[Polarcrest]

Just curious if there have even been rumors of this anywhere?

Say what you will but the game pass system is here to stay and others are going to jump on board. I think Steam would work very well with a game pass system.

[Mad Scientist]

Zero rumors because it's not a thing.
People have already suggested it to Steam, if it was ever made, Developers would have to opt-into it.

[Polarcrest]

But with the crazy success of xbox game pass and others jumping on board, I think it's just a matter of time till steam has their own version and why not, $19.99 or $29.99 a month for access to everything? It would bring so many people into PC gaming and just boost their player base. Dead games could come back to life.

[Reggaejunkiedrew]

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

I think Steam would work very well with a game pass system.

Why? A service like that needs big flagship titles to draw people. When you take out everything owned by Microsoft, and EA, as well as Ubisoft who isn't on Steam at all anymore for new games, what publishers with big flagship titless would Valve even be able to get for a service like this?

[Aachen]

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

But with the crazy success of xbox game pass and others jumping on board, I think it's just a matter of time till steam has their own version and why not, $19.99 or $29.99 a month for access to everything? It would bring so many people into PC gaming and just boost their player base. Dead games could come back to life.

How will developers make money from your proposed system?

[Polarcrest]

They all get a portion of the cost of course. That's how tons of subscription based systems work. Amazon prime and reading free books for example. The authors get paid based on how much their book is read. Devs get a % of the sub cost based on time play time by players.

Don't act like this isn't possible or anything. Xbox is doing it and it's crazy successful. So much so that Sony is now frantically trying to figure out their own. The purchase of bethesda and now act/blizzard just shows their dedication to the game pass and the future of gaming.

Steam/Valve is doing wonderfully right now but so was kmart at one point. You have to change and progress in your business to stay competitive and relevant. If they don't, they will eventually fade out.

I 100% see them doing a game pass on steam. Hell the copied the switch, why not game pass?

[UCEY]

I hope for the sake of Steam that they never implement some sort of "Game Pass"

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Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

Just curious if there have even been rumors of this anywhere?

Say what you will but the game pass system is here to stay and others are going to jump on board. I think Steam would work very well with a game pass system.

Rumors likely, but at best it is just wishful thinking. That being said, if game pass is such a great system then why pray tell is it not part of steam and furthermore why is steam so successful without it?

[Polarcrest]

For the sake of Steam? If they don't they might not exist in the next decade honestly. Children of Morta, Code Vein, Dragon Age 3, Fae Tactics Halo Infinite, It takes Two, The Ascent and Yakuza: Like a Dragon...These are the games I downloaded and played for $2 over the last two months on xbox game pass

If you add up the cost on steam this is nearly $200 or so. Once my free trial ends it'll be like $15 a month. It'll take me a year to get to the cost of these games if I bought them on steam. That said, in the next 10 months, I will download and play $100s of more games for only $15 a month...games (and this is the most important thing) that I WILL NOT buy on Steam.

Microsoft has dealt a serious blow to the gaming world with game pass. If Sony and Valve do not make their own or something better...they will fade away very quickly. As I said before with kmart, look at the history of retailers and all the ones that have gone out of business just in the last decade. If you don't get on board with innovation, you fade away.

[Polarcrest]

Messaggio originale di The Living Tribunal:

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

Just curious if there have even been rumors of this anywhere?

Say what you will but the game pass system is here to stay and others are going to jump on board. I think Steam would work very well with a game pass system.

Rumors likely, but at best it is just wishful thinking. That being said, if game pass is such a great system then why pray tell is it not part of steam and furthermore why is steam so successful without it?

Steam is so successful because it was first and done very well. other gaming stores like epic are awful but like I said, the wave they are riding is coming to an end and the xbox game pass is now the next best thing.

My former comment about the games I have played on xbox game pass instead is steam is proof of what is about to happen. It's not just me that is doing this.

Look, Halo Infinite came out on Steam for $60. If you have game pass, it's included. I paid $1 for this month subscription (3 month trial). I played and beat the game for $1. Why would anyone buy it on steam for $60?

[UCEY]

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

For the sake of Steam? If they don't they might not exist in the next decade honestly. Children of Morta, Code Vein, Dragon Age 3, Fae Tactics Halo Infinite, It takes Two, The Ascent and Yakuza: Like a Dragon...These are the games I downloaded and played for $2 over the last two months on xbox game pass

If you add up the cost on steam this is nearly $200 or so. Once my free trial ends it'll be like $15 a month. It'll take me a year to get to the cost of these games if I bought them on steam. That said, in the next 10 months, I will download and play $100s of more games for only $15 a month...games (and this is the most important thing) that I WILL NOT buy on Steam.

Microsoft has dealt a serious blow to the gaming world with game pass. If Sony and Valve do not make their own or something better...they will fade away very quickly. As I said before with kmart, look at the history of retailers and all the ones that have gone out of business just in the last decade. If you don't get on board with innovation, you fade away.

They don't have to add a game pass to be relevant. They still are and still will be the go-to game distribution platform for lots of people

[Polarcrest]

Said the ceo of kmart and herbergers and toys-r-us.

You innovate or fade away. Game pass is absolutely here to stay and is absolutely the future of playing games. Steam will not be the gaming platform without something like this because nobody will buy the games.

Again lets look at Halo: Infinite Campaign. It has 3,000 reviews. A new stupid game called unpacking has double that. Why? Because it's included on game pass. I don't know why anyone would buy it on steam when they could spend $1 and play it on the game pass.

So what about Starfield, Elder Scrolls 6? It's going to be included on game pass. Think about how much money steam made on Skyrim. They will be lucky to make 10% of that on ES6.

Before I buy a game on Steam, I now check game pass...even if I do see a game on steam that I'm interested in, I go check game pass first to see if there is a different game I could play instead so I don't have to spend money.

[Aachen]

So developers will make comparable money from your thirty-per-month everything-on-Steam Pass, despite your hypothetical user spending orders-of-magnitude less money.

This will save Valve from hypothetical irrelevance-to-death?

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

.... Game pass is absolutely here to stay and is absolutely the future of playing games ....

And how do you know that?

[Polarcrest]

Messaggio originale di Aachen:

So developers will make comparable money from your thirty-per-month everything-on-Steam Pass, despite your hypothetical user spending orders-of-magnitude less money.

This will save Valve from hypothetical irrelevance-to-death?

Users are already spending less money since many of the same games are on the game pass.

Valve will eventually die without changing yes. That is any business. Valve has had a long wave of success but it'll end if they stay the same.

In terms of Devs and their money...Valve screws them hard on steam if you didn't know. Steam takes a crazy big cut. Devs are always fighting to get a better deal and valve just gives them the middle finger. Problem is they don't have anywhere else to go...or at least didn't.

I'm not saying steam is dead in the next year or anything...but this game pass system is here to stay like it or not. Either get on board with it or get left behind.

[Aachen]

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

Users are already spending less money since many of the same games are on the game pass.

“Users are spending less than ....?”

They did before the first pass system went live?

Sorry; what comparison are you drawing?

.... Valve will eventually die without changing yes. That is any business. Valve has had a long wave of success but it'll end if they stay the same ....

“Stay the same” is rather vague, and I doubt that Valve is currently so ossified. Heard about that Deck, e. g.?

.... In terms of Devs and their money...Valve screws them hard on steam if you didn't know. Steam takes a crazy big cut. Devs are always fighting to get a better deal and valve just gives them the middle finger. Problem is they don't have anywhere else to go...or at least didn't ....

Thirty percent is not especially egregious.

And how do you mean there’s no where else to go? There’s a whole interlinked network! I hear a few devs even have their own websites.

.... I'm not saying steam is dead in the next year or anything...but this game pass system is here to stay like it or not. Either get on board with it or get left behind.

“.... but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown” comes to mind.

AAR I don’t see most people preferring rentals to ownership.

[Mad Scientist]

Messaggio originale di Polarcrest:

why not, $19.99 or $29.99 a month for access to everything?

If we use a published Article from February 2021 stating "As of this story, 50,046 games are listed on the US Steam store" - Do you realize how insignificant the income would be for Devs involved?

XBOX's pass is $1 for Console/PC, payout that $1 through the 445/404 (Console/PC), that is really not good to pay everyone.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-US/store/b/compare-xbox-game-pass-plans

Now apply the $1 cost, or 19.99/29.99 to let's say by now likely 55,000+ games, and a 30% Valve cut and you start to see the issue. It would have to be opt-in, for maximum profit, "everything" is unrealistic.