Lost Ark Review Padding

[Shepherd]

This is a HUGE problem and needs to be stopped now. Lost Ark has been allowed to post nothing but positive reviews on their game for months before it even released, and now that I am LITERALLY playing the game I can't leave a review.

Long story short, I don't like the game and want to leave a negative review, but can't Yet Steam is allowing Amazon to pad the reviews for the game, misleading the consumer.

This should never happen again.

[Mad Scientist]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

I am, the game is complete trash. I care more about the integrity of Steam.

Then don't complain about it outside of their Game hub.
You misunderstand the system, and Steam. Outrage threads don't work here, ranting threads accomplish nothing. Steams integrity is fine. We don't need a thread complaining about games everytime someone wants to complain about a game.

Walk away, don't look back. The End.
Or wait until the 11th, do your review, then don't look back.

Bee eredeti hozzászólása:

Right now, there's nothing to prove the reviews scores have been messed with and this sounds like the usual conspiracy theory stuff.

Real shocker there.

[Shepherd]

Mr. Gentlebot eredeti hozzászólása:

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

I am, the game is complete trash. I care more about the integrity of Steam.

Then don't complain about it outside of their Game hub.
You misunderstand the system, and Steam. Outrage threads don't work here, ranting threads accomplish nothing. Steams integrity is fine. We don't need a thread complaining about games everytime someone wants to complain about a game.

Walk away, don't look back. The End.
Or wait until the 11th, do your review, then don't look back.

Bee eredeti hozzászólása:

Right now, there's nothing to prove the reviews scores have been messed with and this sounds like the usual conspiracy theory stuff.

Real shocker there.

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

[davidb11]

And yet, even if that's the case, there's still nothing wrong here.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill here as the expression goes.
You're essentially dropping a nuclear bomb on your own home because you saw a Madagascar hissing cockroach. :P

[Shepherd]

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

And yet, even if that's the case, there's still nothing wrong here.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill here as the expression goes.

Text can impart more emotion than it holds, and I agree that it isn't a mountain, but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and I wanted to call it out.

[Bee🐝]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. Gentlebot eredeti hozzászólása:

Then don't complain about it outside of their Game hub.
You misunderstand the system, and Steam. Outrage threads don't work here, ranting threads accomplish nothing. Steams integrity is fine. We don't need a thread complaining about games everytime someone wants to complain about a game.

Walk away, don't look back. The End.
Or wait until the 11th, do your review, then don't look back.


Real shocker there.

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

Other games with close beta periods?

[my new friend]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1098220/Making_it_Home/

[davidb11]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

davidb11 eredeti hozzászólása:

And yet, even if that's the case, there's still nothing wrong here.
You're making a mountain out of a molehill here as the expression goes.

Text can impart more emotion than it holds, and I agree that it isn't a mountain, but it's ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and I wanted to call it out.

But it's not crappy at all.
It's a logical thing for a closed beta test to not allow public reviews.
THat's how closed beta tests work.

[Aachen]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

So wait you’re saying the company paid off its beta testers to leave positive reviews?

[nullable]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. Gentlebot eredeti hozzászólása:

Then don't complain about it outside of their Game hub.
You misunderstand the system, and Steam. Outrage threads don't work here, ranting threads accomplish nothing. Steams integrity is fine. We don't need a thread complaining about games everytime someone wants to complain about a game.

Walk away, don't look back. The End.
Or wait until the 11th, do your review, then don't look back.


Real shocker there.

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

https://kotaku.com/valves-latest-steam-review-change-is-awfully-specific-1685780729

Evolve would seem to be the possible where pre-release reviews originated as a feature, in 2015. Seems like Valve make explicit decisions to label the reviews as pre-release. And that the ability to review games in closed betas or other schemes has been around even longer.

[Mad Scientist]

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

Dates on the reviews are a fairly big giveaway.

The reviews will reflect the status of the game on release. Instead of complaining and arguing with users, just walk away like a normal individual.

Enough of this little crusade and arguing with people. Walk away.

There's been other games with Beta reviews, I'm fairly certain I was part of two of them. Reviews change on release. Again, walk away, this is not the place for a personal crusade or vendetta.

Oh hey look, even SWTOR had "Pre-Release Review" titles and dated reviews. What a shocker OP just spouts and demands proof when knowing one instance is not likely to be the only instance.

[my new friend]

Mr. Gentlebot eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh hey look, even SWTOR had "Pre-Release Review" titles and dated reviews. What a shocker OP just spouts and demands proof when knowing one instance is not likely to be the only instance.

I went with an indie developer because the OP seems to think they can't have the same.

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

The higher ups at Steam should seriously look into this. If every new game by a huge publisher comes out with these amazing reviews for early access periods that don't exist, I fear that Steam will be devalued as a platform.

Indie game devs won't have this privilege.

[Mad Scientist]

my new friend eredeti hozzászólása:

Mr. Gentlebot eredeti hozzászólása:

Oh hey look, even SWTOR had "Pre-Release Review" titles and dated reviews. What a shocker OP just spouts and demands proof when knowing one instance is not likely to be the only instance.

I went with an indie developer because the OP seems to think they can't have the same.

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

The higher ups at Steam should seriously look into this. If every new game by a huge publisher comes out with these amazing reviews for early access periods that don't exist, I fear that Steam will be devalued as a platform.

Indie game devs won't have this privilege.

OP also already has a thread complaining about the game:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1599340/discussions/0/3180107352891041703/

And within that thread, this supposed theory;
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1599340/discussions/0/3180107352891041703/?ctp=2#c3180107352891106008

So there's no point in having 2 threads, about the same thing, when the OP knows the Game Hub forum exists and is complaining there.

[my new friend]

I know. I've been in and around that game hub since yesterday and I'm not at all shocked it keeps overflowing to here.

[Tito Shivan]

Bee eredeti hozzászólása:

Shepherd eredeti hozzászólása:

Read the thread and try again. Only people from a closed beta 3 months ago can leave reviews.

Name me A SINGLE OTHER GAME that has done this. I'll be waiting.

Other games with close beta periods?

It's there in the Steamworks documentation.
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/reviews
Read 'Pre-release reviews'
Notice how reviews do feature the 'Pre-release review tag'

So nothing out of the ordinary. People who got to play the beta can leave pre release reviews while people who didn't have to wait for release to do so.

[my new friend]

Ok. He made a proper thread about it and let's hope things will calm down.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1599340/discussions/0/3180107352891203271/