Steam are being too Nosey!!!

[Zaphod-TG-]

I and members of the clan I belong to plus friends, told me of GTFO game, I looked it up and thought yep I'm getting it went through the purchase details with my credit card and it wouldn't go through because I won't put a phone number in the sale, WTH? You have a valid email and that's it. You're not having my phone number EVER! SO I contacted my friends and they are not going to buy it either for the same reason.

STEAM, my phone number is none of your business and you have no reason to have it, I did attempt help but that's just a shame PR thing and is of no use. my latest two games that I had a choice from was not steam (Bethesda) all they need is an email address. Remove this need for a phone number or at least make it a choice of the purchaser, so if this is going to be your policy from now on then you will never sell another wares to me again or my friends or any gifting of games that I do plenty of.

Stop being nosey.

[WolfEisberg]

davidb11님이 먼저 게시:

And even if it was, it doesn't apply to me, or anyone else, because all my details were saved.

You're acting like you have to have your phone number rewritten into the thing every single time you make a purchase.

Good grief. Save your information and you'll never need to do any flipping entering of your phone number again.
Even if this is something Steam asks for, it is not a huge deal ever.

Again, this thread has nothing to do about needing to reenter information in, this thread is about Steam being too nosey by asking for information they don't even need in order to make a purchase. Saving information isn't going to solve the issue the OP and his friends have with needing a phone number, their issue is that Steam requires the phone number in the first place. To them Steam requiring this information Steam don't need crosses the line, and they are free to feel that way.

So yes, you have entered your phone number in, and you saved the information so you don't have to reenter it every time, but you do have phone number on file with Steam so you can make purchases, without that information Steam would stop you from buy a game.

[WolfEisberg]

davidb11님이 먼저 게시:

Except as I pointed out right above, I Was grandfathered in because I first saved my information long before 2015, when they started asking for this.

I don't know why they ask for the phone Number now, but it's really not a big deal.

There is no grandfathering in. If you look at the check out page, like I shown in mine, you'll see your phone number there. If it is not there, and you try to make a purchase it will refuse to process the payment.

[cSg|mc-Hotsauce]

Voltron님이 먼저 게시:

There is no grandfathering in. If you look at the check out page, like I shown in mine, you'll see your phone number there. If it is not there, and you try to make a purchase it will refuse to process the payment.

If you had Steam guard mobile enabled or your number attached for something like Dota 2 match making before the change, yes, that info would be stored for when you make a purchase.

[WolfEisberg]

davidb11님이 먼저 게시:

Sorry, I've never put my phone number in on Steam once.
So, it's a grandfathered in for certain type event.
Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to make any purchases on Steam since this change.

And my most recent game was fairly recent.

It would be pretty bad for Steam not to grandfather people in there.
In fact, I don't think it would be legal to not grandfather them in.

Yeah, don't believe you at all. My information on Steam is more than 6 years old, the saved information doesn't even have a phone number, I had to enter it in because when I didn't it refused to process the payment.. You have your phone number with Steam.

[Nitro Toxico]

When i try buy games on steam now. It just direct me to a website so i can verify my bank.
And thats just because of the new bank laws. Before that even became a thing, I just normaly just pay it directly on steam with no extra needs of confirmation

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davidb11님이 먼저 게시:

Steam does not ask for your phone number when buying anything.
So, that doesn't make sense.
Even on the marketplace.

When i use my credit card or debit card it ask's for a phone and billing address. I have learned that putting in a fake billing address and phone number my bank or credit card declines it. Maybe they need that info to prove you didn't steal the card. Who knows i just know that capitol one and BOA declines the purchase if you use a fake phone number and address for your billing information.

[Zekiran]

Snakefist님이 먼저 게시:

When i use my credit card or debit card it ask's for a phone and billing address. I have learned that putting in a fake billing address and phone number my bank or credit card declines it. Maybe they need that info to prove you didn't steal the card. Who knows i just know that capitol one and BOA declines the purchase if you use a fake phone number and address for your billing information.

This is called fraud, so yeah?

Posting a fake anything for a real purchase using real money going through real banking systems is ... not legal nor safe for your account, so you should really get yourself out of that habit.

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Zekiran님이 먼저 게시:

Snakefist님이 먼저 게시:

When i use my credit card or debit card it ask's for a phone and billing address. I have learned that putting in a fake billing address and phone number my bank or credit card declines it. Maybe they need that info to prove you didn't steal the card. Who knows i just know that capitol one and BOA declines the purchase if you use a fake phone number and address for your billing information.

This is called fraud, so yeah?

Posting a fake anything for a real purchase using real money going through real banking systems is ... not legal nor safe for your account, so you should really get yourself out of that habit.

I did it when i first joined steam 11 years ago. Since then i only used real info and it's not fraud because it was my cards. I just didn't want to give out my real name and info. So no fraud at all since it was my credit and debit cards.

[Dr.Shadowds 🐉]

Fruad is when you use someone else name, address, and etc as you're impersonating someone. The card may be yours, but using someone else address, phone number, and even name is fraud. Hence fruad protection... When use your credit card, it normally get approved when you provide the correct info to using it, not just card number only, hence name, address, and even phone number in some cases.

[Zekiran]

Pretending your address is [insert silly spam numbers and letters here hah hah that will teach them] is still *not YOUR address*.

They need YOUR information.

If you went to a store physically and the cashier asked to see your ID and it did not match information they had on you, they would *call the credit card company* to confirm that it's "yours" - and if it didn't match theirs... the cashier gets a 50$ check in the mail from the credit card company for cutting that card in half right then and there. Because fraud is a thing that actually happens, and that's how it works.

[Delta7777777]

Steam has begun to change, I wouldn't doubt they are trying bs like this. If I ever run into this issue I am not buying. So far they only have required a card number etc from me.

Only issue's I have been having lately are with updates crashing games and Ads being spammed more than ever. I hate what steam is turning into and the way they are acting.

[✰FeภᎥx✰ WarrᎥ☢r★]

Great another update we dont need... How about fixing the economy with minimum and maximum item prices or purging the army of purple bots camping ed3 driving down drop prices then buying all the nox scythes and top tier weapons and codex's to drive up prices. Most companies have gone the pay to win route and that's bad enough but the economy is a joke billions for some old crap you don't even need a cosmetic worth more than 10 accounts... Fix your game. Put in skilling caps combat caps something to make people explore the game so many people just sit and do the same thing go and play single-player if you want roleplaying this is an online game... I think at this point there are more bots paying for subs than real people RIP game made by nerds so they could make friends now all the game has is bots and rich people who bought money and stand around with billions in items, very few people earn their loot nowadays.

[Donitsi]

Delta7777777님이 먼저 게시:

Only issue's I have been having lately are with updates crashing games and Ads being spammed more than ever. I hate what steam is turning into and the way they are acting.

How are crashing games Steam's fault? As for adds, you can disable them in the settings. There is button "Notify me about additions or changes to my games, new releases, and upcoming releases" I haven't had any popup adds.

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Zekiran님이 먼저 게시:

Pretending your address is [insert silly spam numbers and letters here hah hah that will teach them] is still *not YOUR address*.

They need YOUR information.

If you went to a store physically and the cashier asked to see your ID and it did not match information they had on you, they would *call the credit card company* to confirm that it's "yours" - and if it didn't match theirs... the cashier gets a 50$ check in the mail from the credit card company for cutting that card in half right then and there. Because fraud is a thing that actually happens, and that's how it works.

I have never been asked to see my id for a credit or debit card purchase ever. They don't ask for id in america for credit or debit card purchases. When you swipe your card here it asks for a pin number when you use a debit card or a signature when using a credit card. Never ever have i been carded for making a debit card or credit card transaction. Stores don't have any info on you at all unless you give it to them for their stupid reward points. The only time i was carded when using a debit/credit card was at a bar/beer distributor but that was to make sure i was 21 only.

[Zaphod-TG-]

Grand Ayatrollah님이 먼저 게시:

Zekiran님이 먼저 게시:

Pretending your address is [insert silly spam numbers and letters here hah hah that will teach them] is still *not YOUR address*.

They need YOUR information.

If you went to a store physically and the cashier asked to see your ID and it did not match information they had on you, they would *call the credit card company* to confirm that it's "yours" - and if it didn't match theirs... the cashier gets a 50$ check in the mail from the credit card company for cutting that card in half right then and there. Because fraud is a thing that actually happens, and that's how it works.

i wont disagree with you because its technically not right.

but if was sitting in a courtroom after using my real unfakeable banking info, from a registered internet account tied to a real street address, not a P.O> box, with a verified called back phone number to boot,...

on fraud charges because i wrote bonkers the clown in the random website account info. i would literally laugh out loud and say. i think my kid stole my card and did it. no wait i dont have a kid. i was drunk that night

In reply to those who say steam need it to verify the card company, they don't it's the credit card company that verifies the sale via "Verified by Visa" and it's there I am accepted or rejected. This action has nothing to do with Visa. I don't use my credit cards for purchasing things in stores as I tend to use apple pay and that is setup for my debit cards only as it's quick and simple to get goods from a store.

There is far too much intrusion into privacy that, especially big tech companies seem to be adopting (Facebook mother of this) but that's fora different discussion.

As for cashiers in a Bank you put your card into their reader and use your card pin to verify, or as in the case of one of my bank accounts they issue you a very small machine called pin sentry and you can put your debit card in that and use your pin it will give them a code to go ahead with the transaction.