Is valve using our PC's to bitcoin mine?

[Hamless Hog]

I thought it was pretty clear that they didnt. I was recently banned for pointing out that they dont. This whole thing seems pretty odd.

[Mad Scientist]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 Muppet among Puppets：

They can not use your computer for bitcoin just because they want.

Can they or can they not add, or modify features and functions of their client? Yes/No

I'm sure people with parts catching on fire regardless of the agreement change or "function" change in that case would have something to say about it. Plus it would ruin their reputation resulting in a huge media blast especially since there's other platforms that would throw money around to ensure the media slams them accordingly. It would devastate valve economically, plus despite such changes they'd have to argue in court against victims of hardware destruction and severe degradation that they did not have ill intent, which would be impossible to prove that they did not have an ill intent since it would provide an immense monetary gain.

Just because you can do so with an agreement and implement such, does not make it legal in court in the end. Steam at least knows enough to not destroy itself by media and users alike.

[76561199132123892]

引用自 Rockon：

引用自 Hogarth：

Is valve using our PC's to bitcoin mine?

Absolutely not, why did you even have to ask such a question.

yep

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 Hogarth：

thats how the ban notice was introduced to me.

The ban reason reads "Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments." and the referred post doesn't even makes mention to mining. I'm not sure how you're reaching the conclussion you got banned for pointing out Steam doesn't have BC mining by reading the ban notice.

You may have misread. The referred post has everything to do with Bitcoin mining that’s kinda the i on sky think I’m pointing out in the referred post.

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 Mr. Gentlebot：

Clickbait thread isn't it.
Take the issue up with the mod, I'll give you a nearly 0% chance they'll even respond to your response, though. Anyway, with the assumption what you're saying is what happened, some mods or steam support do not even read or get context. Else, based off of what Hotsauce brought up, I want to ask what really got you banned, as in the message they usually say why specifically.

Yea it seems to be the case where support doesn’t even read or get context to the situation as shown by the mod post above mine.

[Tito Shivan]

引用自 Hogarth：

You may have misread. The referred post has everything to do with Bitcoin mining that’s kinda the i on sky think I’m pointing out in the referred post.

To make things clear:

引用自 Hogarth：

I thought it was pretty clear that they didnt. I was recently banned for pointing out that they dont.

No you did not. Again
This is the thread in question.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274718938
Your reply (which was removed) can be seen here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274726347

引用自 Hogarth：

so youre hardware isnt up to par and you blame valve for it? really?

And the ban notice states:

Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments.

You're more banned for trying to make an argument (confronting the user about his hardware) than anything to do with mining.

I'll add paids mods are sometimes not the best at reading the room when they deal with reports. If you think it was issued wrong you can file a support ticket (I see you know how to do that already looking at your community messages), but the fact is still there that your ban had nothing to do with mining as you assume in the OP.

[Mad Scientist]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

And the ban notice states:

Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments.

You're more banned for trying to make an argument (confronting the user about his hardware) than anything to do with mining.

I'll add paids mods are sometimes not the best at reading the room when they deal with reports. If you think it was issued wrong you can file a support ticket (I see you know how to do that already looking at your community messages), but the fact is still there that your ban had nothing to do with mining as you assume in the OP.

That's all nice and all, but the assumption was the individual was baiting people, when clearly even with your input it seems that was an error. Any mod can just say "oh hey look disagreement someones baiting someone else". The excuse is always "spend more time to write to support if you believe it's an error" (paraphrased), where support is likely going to blindly side with a moderator or as well, not look into context or bother to read (as I've also seen before). Shouldn't someone bother to read/get context before slapping a user around?

Telling a user their hardware isn't up to spec also isn't baiting, it's pointing out that the flawed logic is their post based off of specs being far too low. Users don't need warnings/bans for not writing it in a more eloquent way or up to someones standards. Afterall, if the OP can't say that, then you can't call users naive as that could also be seen as baiting people.

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 Hogarth：

You may have misread. The referred post has everything to do with Bitcoin mining that’s kinda the i on sky think I’m pointing out in the referred post.

To make things clear:

引用自 Hogarth：

I thought it was pretty clear that they didnt. I was recently banned for pointing out that they dont.

No you did not. Again
This is the thread in question.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274718938
Your reply (which was removed) can be seen here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274726347

引用自 Hogarth：

so youre hardware isnt up to par and you blame valve for it? really?

And the ban notice states:

Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments.

You're more banned for trying to make an argument (confronting the user about his hardware) than anything to do with mining.

I'll add paids mods are sometimes not the best at reading the room when they deal with reports. If you think it was issued wrong you can file a support ticket (I see you know how to do that already looking at your community messages), but the fact is still there that your ban had nothing to do with mining as you assume in the OP.

wasnt that kinda the whole topic of discussion, his hardware was under performing? and that he was blaming valve for it due to bitcoin mining?

its almost as if the wrong person was banned here, was my comment bait or was the thread bait?

[Muppet among Puppets]

引用自 Start_Running：

引用自 Muppet among Puppets：

They can not use your computer for bitcoin just because they want.

Can they or can they not add, or modify features and functions of their client? Yes/No

They do not own your computer, and any wall they create of this kind between you and your games is not
what they are allowed to do.

[kitt]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 Hogarth：

You may have misread. The referred post has everything to do with Bitcoin mining that’s kinda the i on sky think I’m pointing out in the referred post.

To make things clear:

引用自 Hogarth：

I thought it was pretty clear that they didnt. I was recently banned for pointing out that they dont.

No you did not. Again
This is the thread in question.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274718938
Your reply (which was removed) can be seen here:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/730/discussions/0/3128289322274672597/#c3128289322274726347

引用自 Hogarth：

so youre hardware isnt up to par and you blame valve for it? really?

And the ban notice states:

Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments.

You're more banned for trying to make an argument (confronting the user about his hardware) than anything to do with mining.

I'll add paids mods are sometimes not the best at reading the room when they deal with reports. If you think it was issued wrong you can file a support ticket (I see you know how to do that already looking at your community messages), but the fact is still there that your ban had nothing to do with mining as you assume in the OP.

banning/deleting posts for nothig or (like in this case) even related to that topic while you guys ignore real issues on that Forum.. its just sad but obviously nothing new.




Since Steam never uses any CPU when not downloading stuff I doubt its using any Mining. I bet there wouldn't be a shortage of people who would even agree to let Valve use their Systems to "Mine" IF Users have a choice to opt in/out.

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 Tito Shivan：

引用自 Hogarth：

thats how the ban notice was introduced to me.

The ban reason reads "Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments." and the referred post doesn't even makes mention to mining. I'm not sure how you're reaching the conclussion you got banned for pointing out Steam doesn't have BC mining by reading the ban notice.

so would this comment be considered baiting? I dont see how this is any worse than the comment i made that got me banned.

[feytharn]

引用自 Hogarth：

引用自 Tito Shivan：

The ban reason reads "Please refrain from attempting to bait users into non-constructive arguments." and the referred post doesn't even makes mention to mining. I'm not sure how you're reaching the conclussion you got banned for pointing out Steam doesn't have BC mining by reading the ban notice.

so would this comment be considered baiting? I dont see how this is any worse than the comment i made that got me banned.

You titled this thread 'Is valve using our PC's to bitcoin mine?' while you actually want to talk about why you have been banned. I would consider that baiting.

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 feytharn：

引用自 Hogarth：

so would this comment be considered baiting? I dont see how this is any worse than the comment i made that got me banned.

You titled this thread 'Is valve using our PC's to bitcoin mine?' while you actually want to talk about why you have been banned. I would consider that baiting.

i dont think thats the case as the original post i commented on and got banned for was about valve using bitcoin farms on our pc's.

[feytharn]

引用自 Hogarth：

引用自 feytharn：

You titled this thread 'Is valve using our PC's to bitcoin mine?' while you actually want to talk about why you have been banned. I would consider that baiting.

i dont think thats the case as the original post i commented on and got banned for was about valve using bitcoin farms on our pc's.

Still, it is the very definition of bait. People looking into the discussion forum see the title. They will not see a threat that wants to talk about a mod decision or a post you / another user made another time. They see the question you used as a thread name.

[Hamless Hog]

引用自 feytharn：

引用自 Hogarth：

i dont think thats the case as the original post i commented on and got banned for was about valve using bitcoin farms on our pc's.

Still, it is the very definition of bait. People looking into the discussion forum see the title. They will not see a threat that wants to talk about a mod decision or a post you / another user made another time. They see the question you used as a thread name.

I just dont understand why i was banned. Even the mod here had troubles understanding it.

[Brian9824]

引用自 Hogarth：

引用自 feytharn：

Still, it is the very definition of bait. People looking into the discussion forum see the title. They will not see a threat that wants to talk about a mod decision or a post you / another user made another time. They see the question you used as a thread name.

I just dont understand why i was banned. Even the mod here had troubles understanding it.

Then do as you were told repeatedly and in the ban message and contact support. If it was a mistake support will remove the ban